question So...How Committed Are You??

[DanBingham]

We all start somewhere, and how successful we want to be is down to how committed we are.

Those who have the drive, determination and who put in the hard work will be successful. It takes time, but then comes the experience you pick up along the way.

As a Domain Name Investor, how committed to this industry are you?

 

[Satyasai Ray]

Very

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

I'm very Commited. I've been "commited" to Bellevue psyche ward several times for my domaining. So what's your point?

 

[Kuffy]

Unfortunately success doesn't follow comittment. There seems to be quite a few amateurs who make a lot more than many who dedicate their lives to losing money through domain name speculation. I think application and aptitude are more important.

 

[DASHCAMCLIPS]

A better question would be "How Crazy are You? ". Domaining does not have much to do with commitment, but more with making sure you own a lot of good and great names so potential buyers have awide selection to choose from. Some names take years to sell, some never sell. We spends thousands on renewals each year, and if we would have invested the same amount of money in a business we would have built something great by now.

I am not commited to domaining at all, as my main source of income derives from drinking coffee, smoking cigarettes and from time to time having a brainwave that looks and sounds creative enough to impress my clients who expect me to delever marketing-strategies. So domaing is a side-kick.

Maybe "How Crazy are You? " also is not right.

Best question IMO: How Much Fun do You Have?

In that case: a lot!

 

[D Haynes]

Not very committed at the moment. I have too much DIY to do. Once the house is done I plan to get more into it.

 

[Amzymayor]

Was committed. Still committed. And will be committed

 

[promo]

Unfortunately success doesn't follow comittment. There seems to be quite a few amateurs who make a lot more than many who dedicate their lives to losing money through domain name speculation. I think application and aptitude are more important.

Kuffy as usual you make little to no sense.

Amateur:
a person who engages in a pursuit, especially a sport, on an unpaid basis.

Adjective: amateur
engaging or engaged in without payment; non-professional.

So if they make anything they cease to be amateurs.

 

[Mister Funsky]

As a Domain Name Investor, how committed to this industry are you?

Hello, my name is Mister Funsky and I am a domainer...

I am committed...and should be committed considering some of the names I have held on to for years! 4 hours a day on average...6 days a week (only 2 hours on day 7). Unless you are an OG with way awesome names it takes alot of time and effort just to break even.

 

[DomainVP]

Amateur: adjective - inept or unskillful.

What Kuffy states is the truth. We have all seen people that barely know the difference between a registrant / registrar / registry and yet they made massive sales.

Whatever your commitment level..

 

[promo]

The definition of an "amateur" is someone that does something without getting paid.

The definition of a "wanna be" is someone that chooses to announce themselves Vice President of an industry while still being a noob (see the term noob works instead of amateur). I know you prefer that I aim my remarks squarely at the intended recipient (so it wont go over your head) so thats for you @DomainVP.

 

[promo]

PS
How can you be unskilful or inept if you make better sales than the pros?

You not in domaining to make money? I think most of us would think that big sales are not indicators of being an inept domainer.

 

[DomainVP]

The definition of an "amateur" is someone that does something without getting paid.

You know there are multiple meanings to one word? Right?

You can't be that dense.

I can imagine picking fights on NP is a full time job, and quite demanding, but you have to have room in that tiny space between your ears for some common sense.

 

[DomainVP]

How can you be unskilful or inept if you make better sales than the pros?

Lots of lottery winners out there.

 

[DanBingham]

You know there are multiple meanings to one word? Right?

You can't be that dense.

I can imagine picking fights on NP is a full time job, and quite demanding, but you have to have room in that tiny space between your ears for some common sense

Now, now people - let's be nice!

 

[promo]

So again you think thats these immensely successful "amateurs" are inept and unskilful but still manages to beat the rest of us?

Ohh you think they are lottery winners... Now I get it, they consistently do better by consistently winning the lottery. They are inept and unskilful but make more money than you doing the same actions as you... Probably makes sense in your world... I am not that dense, but sometimes its taxing to explain common concepts to people that are.. Again.. Aimed at you @DomainVP

There is a lot of amateurs out there. But once they start making money then they are not amateurs any longer. I know you have an issue with titles and roles, you thinking you are a VP of domaining, but usually concepts are clearly defined. So no you are not talking about amateurs, you are talking about lottery winners, Noobs and VPs.

 

[DomainVP]

manages to beat the rest of us

Please don't group me in with you. Maybe they are surpassing you, but I'm doing just fine .

You might feel passed by with all of this new tech and strategies, I get that. You might feel like a relic from the 'good old' domaining days, but you can change that today friend.

hey consistently do better by consistently winning the lottery.

immensely successful "amateurs"

What? Someone consistently doing well is not an amateur.

Your rants are becoming more erratic, are you okay?

What I am referring to are the 1-off big sales from some that haven't sold anything previously or after.


Look... I'm going to wrap this chat up with you. If you are not okay than I am am sorry to hear, I hope you are more successful in domaining than you have been. God bless you.

 

[promo]

Just noticed you are now also a "domain expert". You really like to give yourselves titles and accolades huh. You know its usually other people that bestows such honours?

You 100% have to be the most inept expert any industry has ever seen. But in your world that means you are an "amateur" cause you are so bigly good at domaining.

Right..

Ps
I would never ever in a million years put the two of us in the same group. You probably even have to use the ladies room.

 

[DomainVP]

You probably even have to use the ladies room.

So ladies can't be great domainers?

You are a relic indeed.

I would never ever in a million years put the two of us in the same group.

It's not the first time you did that. I've had to ask you not to do that before.

It's called transference. All of the negative things you say about me are actually what you feel, and fear, about yourself.

I wish you continued love and success, and I hope you get better.

 

[DanBingham]

Please can both @promo and @DomainVP continue this rant elsewhere. It's rather annoying that i/we all get an alert each time one of you responds to each other!

 

[namelancer]

The definition of an "amateur" is someone that does something without getting paid.

But that's also the definition of a hobby - an activity that usually costs money in order to be sustained In fact, it's possible to be an amateur - on the level of the degree of skills - but still be able to generate income, just as it is possible for a professional to be on a constant money-losing streak.

 

[namelancer]

How can you be unskilful or inept if you make better sales than the pros?

It goes by different names such as being a natural talent, having a predisposition or the sixth sense for naming

 

[cooljub]

Amateur: adjective - inept or unskillful.

 

[namelancer]

If you have natural talent you are not inept.

I used it as an explanation of why it is possible for someone without acquired knowledge (as per one of the sub-divisions of a definition of ' amateur') to make more money than the pros.Obviously, having natural talent implies the presence of informal knowledge, intimations or intuitions, but not the kind that belongs to the proper, layered knowledge that stems from accumulated from years of domaining.

If you do stuff as a hobby your goal is to enjoy yourself. You can make money while doing it. It does not mess with the definition of a hobby. Which really has nothing to do with the term amateur.

The hobby is defined as pursuit of activity outside regular occupation primarily for relaxation. By and large hobbies liberated from the burden of making income, but when they do, it's as the cases of exceptions to the general rule. When a hobby starts bringing income it transforms into de facto side job/gig at least and into a full-time job at most, essentially ceasing its existence as a hobby. .

Since you have defined 'amateur' exclusively in terms of payment-free activity (see definition earlier in a thread), 'hobby' and 'amateur' do share something in common, namely, non-attribution of funds, as the point where the paths of 'hobby' and 'amateur' overlap.

If you do stuff as an amateur you want to eventually be good enough to make money from it. To become a pro.

Once you make money from it. You are a pro.

But what about the elite football players who, at the same time, chose to remain in an amateur, thus non-paying, or non-professional league ? Their level of skills can not be called into question being that they are adept at their game and, therefore, could simultaneously be considered both pro (with regards to the skills) and non-pro (with respect to not playing for money) ?

Here you would encounter a paradox: such a football player would be both an amateur (when it comes to pay) and a pro (non-amateur in terms of having skills above an 'amateur' defined as an unskillful person).

 

[namelancer]

Amateur:
a person who engages in a pursuit, especially a sport, on an unpaid basis.

Adjective: amateur
engaging or engaged in without payment; non-professional.

So if they make anything they cease to be amateurs.

Yes, but only respect to receiving pay, and not concerning the level of skill they possess. There are plenty of examples of professionals doing sub-par paid-for jobs for which they exhibit an amateur level of skills