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What are the .Art domains registered by namePros members here?
 
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This is such a flop, it really was one of my favorite new gTLDs. I had a token so I purchased a domain I love several weeks ago, when the pre-registration price was $299, and had a list of tens of names that were not listed as premium at the time, so I expected them to go for regular registration price. Next thing I know - they're all in the thousands today.
DotArt.Sucks
 
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more premiums:

uniregistry.art
dynadot.art
namecheap.art
godaddy.art
ricksblog.art LOL
mikemann.art
domainshane.art
abdulbasit.art
domainsherpa.art
icann.art
rightside.art
namebio.art
 
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more premiums:

uniregistry.art
dynadot.art
namecheap.art
godaddy.art
ricksblog.art LOL
mikemann.art
domainshane.art
abdulbasit.art
domainsherpa.art
icann.art
rightside.art
namebio.art

on the other hand...

underwhelming
unimportant
uninteresting
unapproachable
uninspiring
unsatisfying
vacuous

all still available.
 
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on the other hand...

underwhelming
unimportant
uninteresting
unapproachable
uninspiring
unsatisfying
vacuous

all still available.

interesting
 
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premium

llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyll-llantysiliogogogoch.art

141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592.art

to me it looks like the algo is targeting developed websites under .com that have some backlinks.
 
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.Com is so ugly bing deleted the tld from search

it is not only premium it is premium renewal. That means you have to pay it each year.

an example how bad it is:

homer.art $2640/year
maggie.art $3180/year
bart.art $3612/year
namepros.art $852/year
thedomains.art $384/year
parkingcrew.art $444/year
doggypoo.art $180/year

the only one that i found available is doggiepoo.art ($12/year)

the algo has also reserved TMs it seems.

walmart.art $4k/year

more premiums:

uniregistry.art
dynadot.art
namecheap.art
godaddy.art
ricksblog.art LOL
mikemann.art
domainshane.art
abdulbasit.art
domainsherpa.art
icann.art
rightside.art
namebio.art
premium

llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyll-llantysiliogogogoch.art

141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592.art

to me it looks like the algo is targeting developed websites under .com that have some backlinks.
:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:
namepros.art wasn't saved either.
 
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What a scam the .art registry has going. They let customers, like me, preregister names at like $11.99 or something, at AlpNames, then today I got an email that the name was, "mis-priced" and now was re-priced at premium. So in effect, they took every name that someone was interested in, and jacked the price up to premium! They used customer interest as a gauge of what to hold back as premium, under the guise of a paid pre-registration program! Total BS!! :banghead:
 
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.art and .blog

i have no respect for both
 
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Being an artist myself I found it really hard to find a suitable domain, Withholding good domains (for a too higher price inc renewal costs) halts the growth of any extension that chooses to employ this tactic & tarnishes the gtld domain space as a whole imo
 
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These guys are probably too intoxicated by their own greed to realize that this "algorithm" is about as close as you can get to shooting yourself in the foot.

I wonder which one of the bigger registries will buy this ngtld up wholesale in a year or two?
 
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I pre registered

Sexy.art

And

Erotic.art

As they were only $29 each

But never managed to get them

. Art registry might be one of the most successful gtlds

The whole cost of running the. Art registry is less than the cost of just one rare painting
 
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Hmm it appears that most people in this thread have been struggling. As an end user, I've had no problems registering the following:

airbrush.art, browse.art, colour.art, giclee.art, stilllife.art and about another 5 that I'm currently working on.

End users are prepared to pay for what they want and need. The prices are likely a deterrent to Domainers.
 
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We all had a heads-up up prior to G.A that 3.5M domains were going to be treated as Premium, so obviously "good" domains listed from $230+ during Preferred Access weren't going to be reduced to $20 for G.A.

The smarter artists out there without a well known/common name should have bought [firstname][lastname].art during G.A and saved several hundred dollars (at the risk of someone else registering it, of course), as those combinations have dropped through the algorithm of determining a premium. I expect many artists to flood in over the coming year for $20 for their own name. Category killers are by definition going to kill your wallet too.
 
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Hmm it appears that most people in this thread have been struggling. As an end user, I've had no problems registering the following:

airbrush.art, browse.art, colour.art, giclee.art, stilllife.art and about another 5 that I'm currently working on.

End users are prepared to pay for what they want and need. The prices are likely a deterrent to Domainers.
That is understandable, however this kind of business model is not sustainable. High prices may not deter some end user's but that is not true for the majority. In all likelihood both end users and domainers alike are going to be deterred by the pricing model and algorithm, which will result in low registration numbers and reduce the bottom line of the business behind .ART. A "Heads Up" doesn't really do much other than indicate to everyone in the marketplace that the whoever running .ART has decided on using a model that is more focused on "greed" as compared to long term sustainability.


The big failure of NGTLD's is the fact that a good portion of the businesses behind them are not focused on sustainability. Smaller NGTLD operators need to focus on registration volume and not big one time or reoccurring payouts. 10 Big businesses buying their $50k registry reserve domains will not sustain their business long term. However, 60k+ registrants paying $15-$30 a year to keep their domain registered will keep the river flowing every year and if the prices remain consistent...the amount of registrations will increase YoY and so will the profitability of the tld.


There is a inverse correlation between registration numbers and price for both regular and premium registrations i.e as registration cost goes up, the number of registrants goes down. So when I put my meme up, I really meant it...this ngtld failed before it was even in GA and others that will try and do the same thing will also fail. They must of been so proud about the "$3.5 million" premium domains they have...must think they're gonna be billionaires :D...horrible mistake. Using algorithms in this manner won't make you rich. In this case it was a waste of money, they should have spent the funds surveying artists and ASKING THEM what they consider a reasonable price point for regular/premium registrations and have them classed. Oh well, guess they just want the cash and don't actually care about the global community they represent.
 
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That is understandable, however this kind of business model is not sustainable. High prices may not deter some end user's but that is not true for the majority. In all likelihood both end users and domainers alike are going to be deterred by the pricing model and algorithm, which will result in low registration numbers and reduce the bottom line of the business behind .ART. A "Heads Up" doesn't really do much other than indicate to everyone in the marketplace that the whoever running .ART has decided on using a model that is more focused on "greed" as compared to long term sustainability.

The majority of end users aren't interested in the kind of keywords that Domainers are. They want their real name, their trading name and many of those are non-premium. I should know, as I've been browsing through the .art zone file daily for the past few weeks.

What are low registration numbers? There's a thread on DomainNameWire regarding .ART where Drew doesn't believe that .ART will achieve 5,000 registrations in one year. Clearly, he hadn't been studying the data which suggested at least 8,000 domains excluding General Availability and without all the major Registrars on board. With General Availability, there was a recorded 1,355 domains registered within just a few minutes of launch. We'll all know more tomorrow when the zone files are published, so appears to be a very healthy take on G.A. Day #1 and I wouldn't be surprised if the zone expands from 2.3k to 4k registrations in 24 hours. It'll certainly smash the scepticism of only 5k registrations in 12 months.

You talk about greed but my observations are that many here are middle men, resellers, taking a cut of a mark-up in pricing. I'm confused by how you define greed. Ulvi Kasimov (.ARTs founder/investor) is rumoured to have invested $25M into .ART - that's quite some investment, vision and risk on his part. I would have thought that greed is about taking than giving. He's given quite a lot and as a businessman, will expect a return on that investment.

The big failure of NGTLD's is the fact that a good portion of the businesses behind them are not focused on sustainability. Smaller NGTLD operators need to focus on registration volume and not big one time or reoccurring payouts. 10 Big businesses buying their $50k registry reserve domains will not sustain their business long term. However, 60k+ registrants paying $15-$30 a year to keep their domain registered will keep the river flowing every year and if the prices remain consistent...the amount of registrations will increase YoY and so will the profitability of the tld..

With any start-up, there's going to be a learning curve and only natural that some of those will have under-estimated their business model where don't 50% of all start-ups normally fail within 2 years? The domain industry shouldn't be any different. But will the extension and namespace have failed? Very unlikely, as they'll just get absorbed into another Registry's more successful business model. No one size fits all.


There is a inverse correlation between registration numbers and price for both regular and premium registrations i.e as registration cost goes up, the number of registrants goes down. So when I put my meme up, I really meant it...this ngtld failed before it was even in GA and others that will try and do the same thing will also fail. They must of been so proud about the "$3.5 million" premium domains they have...must think they're gonna be billionaires :D...horrible mistake. Using algorithms in this manner won't make you rich. In this case it was a waste of money, they should have spent the funds surveying artists and ASKING THEM what they consider a reasonable price point for regular/premium registrations and have them classed. Oh well, guess they just want the cash and don't actually care about the global community they represent.

Basic supply and demand. I have read quite a few threads recently to claims of nTLDs failing when they're barely out of the gates. Most of that negativity seems to stem from the fact of disgruntled Domainers not being able to register the premium names they hoped to gain at bargain basement $20-$30 prices. The reality is that the game is forever changing, therefore others need to adapt too, else you're going to be left standing. As I've already touched upon, the investors are already rich - the namespace will, over time, simply make them richer and be great business for those who not only invest their money but their precious time too and put their purchases to good use.

If you want quality domains, then yes, expect to pay 4 figures. If you're not prepared to spend 4 figures, then it's perhaps worth considering a different venture. nTLD's are not .coms, so attitudes and approach need to change. Most established artists can sell a piece of artwork for £2,000. I know that by just selling one of mine, will cover a relevant killer category keyword for that artwork so what's the problem?

In terms of survey, then as an artist, I don't have a problem with the pricing having understood .ART's approach to the marketplace, their revision in pricing structure for various phases of registrations and their pro-active approach to creating a microcosm of relevant content and early adopter partnerships, where owning a .ART domain leaves no ambiguity of what you're expecting to find.

I would write more but I'm actually trying to build two .art websites at the same time (despite it being 3am) than just sitting on them...
 
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As an example of what you can find and do with a .ART...

I registered ContinuousLine (dotART) for just over £10 at GoDaddy (what? It's not a premium!?) and a "fun" domain for me to play with. With a couple of hours design work this evening including Photoshop+Dreamweaver, I've uploaded totally new content that matches the domain. You can have a lot of fun and create some interesting content for just £10 and demonstration that you don't need 4 figure category killer keywords, although I do have several of them too.

I perhaps shouldn't disclose that .ART recently invited me down to their London offices, as I had made an impression with some of my .ART content but I declined as I'm not in a position to reveal some of work...just yet. My point is, that with a little effort, taking risks, getting off your bum snd being productive can go a long way.

So for those struggling with .ART. I'll give you all a week to spend your £10 and show me what you can do with it and we'll compare. No takers?
 
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Hmm it appears that most people in this thread have been struggling. As an end user, I've had no problems registering the following:

airbrush.art, browse.art, colour.art, giclee.art, stilllife.art and about another 5 that I'm currently working on.

End users are prepared to pay for what they want and need. The prices are likely a deterrent to Domainers.


how much did you pay for these and were they registered in GA?
 
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how much did you pay for these and were they registered in GA?

Being a member of the Art community, I used my Preferred Access tokens to register during that phase for the bulk of my purchases. All apart from one cost ~£287 through Instra and resulted in automatic registrations. I later discovered that Gandi offered a massive £100 discount, registering StillLife for ~£187 if you're prepared to wait ~12 hours as they manually processed the order with the risk of losing the application with someone jumping the queue at another registrar. It is probaby fair to suggest that my purchases would now retail at least ten times the prices I paid. They're not for sale, although I could be tempted with Giclee if it lends itself to paying for a 60" commercial giclee printer but I want/need that for covering my entire range of giclee prints. The mistake I've noticed with one in this thread was hoping that prices would drop to a tenth of the base P.A.P price but instead went in the opposite direction, being multiplied by 5 to 10. The clue in pricing direction was the 3.5M premium model, so the wise action was to buy whilst you could than wait and be disappointed. Isn't that just a general rule with domain names anyway? With most things, hindsight can be wonderful

What did I buy yesterday for £10-£18 each during G.A that anyone else here could have bought?

certificateofauthenticity.art (every artwork requires one of these and I'll use it as a verification service)
continuousline.art (for fun, that could result in some publicity)
[myfullname].art (Why pay £187 to £287 when I knew I could buy it for ~£15?)
neoplasticism.art (very good for my Mondrian like paintings)
phyllotaxis.art (very good for my spiral spot paintings)

sadly, I missed out on clownpenisf.art, which added laughter to the day's entertainment although penisf.art was available the last time that I looked, whatever one of those is...
 
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how much did you pay for these and were they registered in GA?

I'd have to check my notes but color.art (US Spelling) was priced at just over £10k+VAT in PAP. I found colour.art (UK Spelling for £287 and a comparitive bargain, especially given the correct spelling. Ha, yes, I know both are correct and regional). .ART later removed and reserved the US color spelling.
 
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Was going to quote that as well :) Priceless stuff.
That's quite an achievement. The english dictionary has about 250,000 dictionary words. Take some combinations a you get this 3.5 million very easy, hehe :xf.smile:
 
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