domain LosingWeight.com

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With regards to the website, the term "losing weight" has nice search volume. The term itself is appealing and direct.

Mid $X,XXX to High $X,XXX for the domain alone.

For your developed website the way it is now: Low $XX,XXX at best.
You could do a lot more with your website and get it into the High $XX,XXX, and even possibly, into the low $XXX,XXX range.

This is clearly a mid $xxx,xxx name or MORE!! Nothing less

I wouldn't sell the domain for $x,xxx. Even undeveloped :lol:

This is a killer name-I haven't seen such a good quality name here in several months!

An appraisal is not really for the development- but it being developed adds much greater value to it. The appraisal is for the domain only.

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I'm right with you 3D. While I disagree with it being $x,xxx, I believe it's at least a $100,000 bare minimum. We currently rank on the 1st page for 1,500+ keywords, many with high search volume. We currently receive 2,500 visitors daily - and over 90% of them find us through keywords. The number of people who find us through losing weight is in the low double digits daily.

Might I mention that $11,000+ went into original content.

Great name!.This domain's worth atleast high $xx,xxx bare minimum by itself.

Domain alone is $xx,xxx. With the site it depends on what the end user (buyer) valuates it at regardless of what you spent on it. More importantly is how much revenue the site is generating. Traffic wise, low double digits daily for a term isn't really a great selling point so don't mention that in a sales thread/page. Go with the total amount of type in traffic instead, regardless of specific terms.

Great domain in a good niche. Best of luck Jake.

May anyone else like to throw their two cents into this name? We are heavily considering to selling this Website. I truly believe that the sell price of $140,000 minimum (~$91,000 after taxes is fair for both the domain & the developed site as it is) yes, I factor taxes.

It is what most companies cannot afford, but I know that the purchaser will be getting a gem - and I will not undersell this gem.

I understand people like to say, "The site is what the buyer values it" ... well, with that train of thought, I outta walk in a grocery store and value one loaf of bread for 5 cents.

And I do understand that I come here for it to be appraised, but I find it very conflicting when one guy says low $xx,xxx and another says mid $xxx,xxx and a couple users agree that it's a high $xx,xxx digit site.

Are people really following an outline for appraising such names or some set of rules, or do people just come in here and give an off the cuff opinion with little exploring? I don't mean to sound mean - not at all. Just a thought.

I have the price as is because as time goes by, I understand that the name will be that much more valuable than it already is. People may disagree with me for valuing the future, but I can do that as a seller who's willing to say no. Each day, a name like this will undoubtedly value much higher. I will factor the $30,000 that went into the site creation (outsourcing programmers, writers, etc.) along with the amount of time spent each day working on it. And most importantly, it's an appealing and direct domain name as a moderator stated. I mean, how often do people see a name like this for sale, Plus, it's not exactly a dead site.

The price I ask is fair, but I am curious to see what others think.

And if you have serious doubts with my logic, peruse this list of domains that sold anywhere from $115,000 - $13,000,000. http://www.domaining.com/topsales/ I can easily picture my name in a $140,000 slot. Mind you, if a company buys out my site, they're getting a well-developed site with good starting traffic, not just a domain. The list you see is just domain sales.

What do you think?

The domain name alone is most definitely a high $xx,xxx name.

Good luck, great name!

Thanks - it's encouraging to read that.

There are three valuations:

• Domain Name
• Developed Property
• Domain Name + Developed Property

The name is good so you may have a true end user who does not care about your content or how much the content cost. It's a great name -but you probably would get less than your expectation because your prior expenses are sunk non-recoverable costs. Also you have some income that would offset your need to sell.

You may also find someone who is just looking for revenue and doesn't care about the name. Just looking for an investment web property. This offer will be directly related to your revenue. You will likely lose the domain's inherently value unless you build into you revenue somehow

Finally you get the investor who sees the value of both. I've seen FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR WORSE names on Latonas.com. You should look at some of his web properties - income in, expenses out, sales price.

I don't think your valuation is unreasonable depending on your revenue stream. If 2,500 people a day gets you $0 it's too high. If you're netting $20k/year on $1k/spend then it may be too low.

I also admit to having no idea wtf I'm talking about when it comes to high $ names. But check out Latona.. he's either smart and making money or an insane crazy person.

jake238 said:

May anyone else like to throw their two cents into this name? We are heavily considering to selling this Website. I truly believe that the sell price of $140,000 minimum (~$91,000 after taxes is fair for both the domain & the developed site as it is) yes, I factor taxes.

It is what most companies cannot afford, but I know that the purchaser will be getting a gem - and I will not undersell this gem.

I understand people like to say, "The site is what the buyer values it" ... well, with that train of thought, I outta walk in a grocery store and value one loaf of bread for 5 cents.

And I do understand that I come here for it to be appraised, but I find it very conflicting when one guy says low $xx,xxx and another says mid $xxx,xxx and a couple users agree that it's a high $xx,xxx digit site.

Are people really following an outline for appraising such names or some set of rules, or do people just come in here and give an off the cuff opinion with little exploring? I don't mean to sound mean - not at all. Just a thought.

I have the price as is because as time goes by, I understand that the name will be that much more valuable than it already is. People may disagree with me for valuing the future, but I can do that as a seller who's willing to say no. Each day, a name like this will undoubtedly value much higher. I will factor the $30,000 that went into the site creation (outsourcing programmers, writers, etc.) along with the amount of time spent each day working on it. And most importantly, it's an appealing and direct domain name as a moderator stated. I mean, how often do people see a name like this for sale, Plus, it's not exactly a dead site.

The price I ask is fair, but I am curious to see what others think.

And if you have serious doubts with my logic, peruse this list of domains that sold anywhere from $115,000 - $13,000,000. http://www.domaining.com/topsales/ I can easily picture my name in a $140,000 slot. Mind you, if a company buys out my site, they're getting a well-developed site with good starting traffic, not just a domain. The list you see is just domain sales.

What do you think?

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Good starting traffic does not mean steady traffic. There's a reason why you want to sell the domain. Is the CTR low? Is the traffic mediocre? Is it safe for me to assume that you're not making the type of revenue you thought you would after spending $30k! on the development, content, etc?

You're not going to get $140,000 for the domain, it's just not worth your asking price -- and that's even if the domain is developed. You also say that you spent $30k on the development of the site...I'm sorry, but that does not look like a $30,000 site to me; most of the articles are bland / monotonous. The overall design lacks appeal.

The next point I'd like to emphasize is that the domain itself: "losing weight," is inferior to "weight loss" or "how to lose weight", both of which receive higher search volume (nearly 5x as much exact) and are more natural to pronounce and easier to remember. As a result, you potentially have the third best weight-loss related domain.

If you had something like weightloss.com or howtoloseweight.com, which are both superior to losingweight.com (in my opinion), then you could pull in the $140k for sure. But it won't happen with losingweight.com.

The forum is pretty much dead. If you had an active community with 5-10k users, then you could pull in the price you're asking for.

A website with some bland articles on how to lose weight, some extremely basic health calculators that anyone can find online, coupled with a dead forum community and an overall website look that lacks an attractive appeal and warm invitation will never get you the $140k.

I'm sticking with my original appraisal.

Good luck, though.

If you think $140,000 is where it's at, then it probably is- no one can argue and say it's more. They will probably say less.

If you do your research correctly and have a good sales pitch to relevant and interested potential end-users, I can't see why it couldn't fetch more. It's taken in so many extensions. It's something many people are interested in/obsessed with. There's a big market for products/programmes for losing weight. The name is very brandable. Losing weight is something many people struggle with and spend loads money on it just to look a certain way. They will go for Liposuction, change their diet, take pills, join a gym or weight loss programme, etc. There's TV shows for it, etc.

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Very good Domain Name...

- Low $1x,xxx to reseller (domain only)
- Mid $1x,xxx to end-user (domain only)
- Low $2x,xxx to reseller (developed)
- Mid $2x,xxx - $xx,xxx to end-user (developed)

Check PM in regards to where to sell this domain/website.
Good luck!

I would dump the idea of selling the name as a developed site and promoting it that way.

This is name that needs to go directly to a fortune 500 company in the health, weight loss industry. There are so many out there, and they all have the money to spend.

End-users of the caliber you should be promoting to could give two $hits about a developed site connected to the name. You wasting money if you put anymore into the site.

Hire a high end brokerage that has affiliations with these type niche companies and have them do the leg work for you.

The right company will have no problem paying $1xx,xxx for the name.

Good Luck

Speaker said:

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As a result, you potentially have the third best weight-loss related domain.

I'm sticking with my original appraisal.

[Ed: Mid $X,XXX to High $X,XXX]

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Hilarious.

You think that the third best name in a multi-multi-billion industry is worth < $10K.

Hilarious.

defaultuser said:

Hilarious.

You think that the third best name in a multi-multi-billion industry is worth < $10K.

Hilarious.

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Potentially, is the keyword here.

May or may not be the third best. Even if it is the third best domain for this particular industry, I still think it is worth high $XXXX, undeveloped. I believe that development is the real factor that will determine how much this particular domain is truly worth, especially in this "multi-multi-billion" niche. But the $140k pot of gold the OP wants, is just unrealistic (especially considering how the site is developed today).

Speaker said:

Good starting traffic does not mean steady traffic. There's a reason why you want to sell the domain. Is the CTR low? Is the traffic mediocre? Is it safe for me to assume that you're not making the type of revenue you thought you would after spending $30k! on the development, content, etc?

You're not going to get $140,000 for the domain, it's just not worth your asking price -- and that's even if the domain is developed. You also say that you spent $30k on the development of the site...I'm sorry, but that does not look like a $30,000 site to me; most of the articles are bland / monotonous. The overall design lacks appeal.

The next point I'd like to emphasize is that the domain itself: "losing weight," is inferior to "weight loss" or "how to lose weight", both of which receive higher search volume (nearly 5x as much exact) and are more natural to pronounce and easier to remember. As a result, you potentially have the third best weight-loss related domain.

If you had something like weightloss.com or howtoloseweight.com, which are both superior to losingweight.com (in my opinion), then you could pull in the $140k for sure. But it won't happen with losingweight.com.

The forum is pretty much dead. If you had an active community with 5-10k users, then you could pull in the price you're asking for.

A website with some bland articles on how to lose weight, some extremely basic health calculators that anyone can find online, coupled with a dead forum community and an overall website look that lacks an attractive appeal and warm invitation will never get you the $140k.

I'm sticking with my original appraisal.

Good luck, though.

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The sole reason we're selling the site is because we cannot continue the funding for content.

In late February, we focused on content that targeted long-tail keywords. Since employing this strategy, our traffic climbed everytime we uploaded content to the Website.

We made some costly decisions in the very beginning that I wish we could reverse in retrospect. Much of what was done was not neccessary.

Integrating the forum into the Website's theme was very costly, and asking for a customization here and there was quite expensive (and this programmer lived in Germany, so the exchange rate was not in our favor at all).

Speaking of the layout, this is what the original theme looked like before >> http://wpshower.com/demo/?theme=unspoken and what you see now is the after. Most of theme gutting was completed by me, but we had a bit of PHP work done and a few custom plugins, like the quizzes. That was not cheap.

When I read criticism, I tend to be sensentive, but to honest, I don't feel a fragile feeling in my body with your comment about the design lacking appeal. Your comment about the design lacking appeal is very much lacking in assessment. I get nothing but compliments on the layout, and I know the layout is attractive, so taking your criticisms seriously is a quest.

Yes, the forum is dead (bold and all). We shouldn't have worried about a forum until we received more traffic. That I will agree on.

As with the content, I heavily disagree with your perception on that. We're not trying to be Cracked.com. We're providing information. Information is knowledge. If someone types in, "How Many Calories Do You Burn Doing Insanity?" then the user wants an answer (some knowledge) - and we provide an answer to the best of our ability. Much of the content to most of our article titles is impossible to liven up anyway. We're not going to ignore "How Many Carbs In Celery" if it has a measurable search volume and if we can rank for it. And we're not going to attempt an unnessary theme to such content. We're going to answer the question, and that's it. Additionally, the content is not exactly that appealing when you're not the one searching a percise phrase and seeking a precise answer.

The fact is - I realize that weight loss is a simple solution. Simply move more and eat less crap. It's not like the content will reveal anything that hasn't been said before.

If people are going to search information that's already out there, then the most relevant place they can land on is LosingWeight.com right now. We do what we can to give the best answer to a question/phrase. If you find the content "blah" then it's not relevant enough in your life to spark interest. I know the articles are helpful and on point...to the people who desire for answers to their questions.

Weight loss day-to-day is the hard part, and when people plan to carry out such health goals, they're going to search questions along the way, so that's where we come in.

I state this because you have the feeling that the information is essentially worthless. You're wrong.

You have to put yourself in the shoes of someone who is overweight and types in specific questions. That person wants to know "Will Ice Cream Make You Fat?" People do search such phrases, so we take the simple answer "Eat less" and apply it in article format in so many words so that makes sense for the people who search precise queries.

As with the calculators, yeah... they're basic. "Extremely basic" in your words. What's your point? How complex should they be? Not understanding your approach on that......but I can picture your rebuttle... "it doesn't make your site stand out from everyone else" ... we serve weight loss information. So we're not supposed to have calculators? Most BMI calculators use the same formula to calculate your BMI. So you're saying that we're not supposed to carry health calculators because "anyone can find online?" What's wrong with people finding them anywhere on LosingWeight.com? Just curious because *ahem* it is a weight loss site. It's appropriate, and I have zero shame for having them on the site.

I can obviously tell from reading your response about the calculators that you aren't aware of how useful our information and basic tools are for weight loss. To someone who is overweight, this calculator means the world and much more. The number or answer that the calculator spits out is often a revelation to the user. That's why these tools exist, and I'm glad they're "extremely basic."

Okay, what else?

And what's laughable more than anything else is what you quote the domain name alone. Can't even give it five digits?

Sorry, but when I see that addictedgames.com sells for $135,000, aftermarket.com for $125,000, caribbeanvacations.com for $130,000, and fruitbaskets.com for $142,500...I can't help but picture LosingWeight.com next to one of those prices. The phrase is just TOO common for it to be below what I'm asking for....and my phrase has a way higher search volume than the domains that sold for the prices I listed here. By the way, the sites that sold for such prices accounted for the domain only.

My asking price is fair, and I know it. If I put it up for $7,000, you'd snatch it. Now I see your scheme. Nice try.

P.S. The last part about the scheme...it's a joke.

Definitely a high xx,xxx... the price suggested by Speaker,as one user pointed out here... is just hilarious.

LoseWeightFast.com sold for 40k in 2008 - based on that I think LosingWeight.com could go for a slightly higher figure.

50k-75k

I think the 100k + figures are pretty optimistic.

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140k is pretty optimistic. Your loaf of bread analogy makes little sense. The domain name is worth what the market says it is - period. You have a floor of 40k and top end of probably 75k. The reason you cant buy a loaf of bread for .05 is because millions of people are willing to pay $2.00 - and the costs involved in making that loaf of bread are higher than .05 (nobody wants to sell at a loss).

Comparables are more important than any other factor when valuing names. Look at auctions of similar quality names above what anyone in here says! LoseWeightFast.com I consider of equal quality to your domain. I give you slight premium for 2 words instead of 3 - although "losing" is longer than lose so that negates some premium...

Good luck sir.

jake238 said:

May anyone else like to throw their two cents into this name? We are heavily considering to selling this Website. I truly believe that the sell price of $140,000 minimum (~$91,000 after taxes is fair for both the domain & the developed site as it is) yes, I factor taxes.

It is what most companies cannot afford, but I know that the purchaser will be getting a gem - and I will not undersell this gem.

I understand people like to say, "The site is what the buyer values it" ... well, with that train of thought, I outta walk in a grocery store and value one loaf of bread for 5 cents.

And I do understand that I come here for it to be appraised, but I find it very conflicting when one guy says low $xx,xxx and another says mid $xxx,xxx and a couple users agree that it's a high $xx,xxx digit site.

Are people really following an outline for appraising such names or some set of rules, or do people just come in here and give an off the cuff opinion with little exploring? I don't mean to sound mean - not at all. Just a thought.

I have the price as is because as time goes by, I understand that the name will be that much more valuable than it already is. People may disagree with me for valuing the future, but I can do that as a seller who's willing to say no. Each day, a name like this will undoubtedly value much higher. I will factor the $30,000 that went into the site creation (outsourcing programmers, writers, etc.) along with the amount of time spent each day working on it. And most importantly, it's an appealing and direct domain name as a moderator stated. I mean, how often do people see a name like this for sale, Plus, it's not exactly a dead site.

The price I ask is fair, but I am curious to see what others think.

And if you have serious doubts with my logic, peruse this list of domains that sold anywhere from $115,000 - $13,000,000. http://www.domaining.com/topsales/ I can easily picture my name in a $140,000 slot. Mind you, if a company buys out my site, they're getting a well-developed site with good starting traffic, not just a domain. The list you see is just domain sales.

What do you think?

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You should sell it before the new tlds hit the market next year bc I think a storm is brewing for the dot coms.

999names said:

You should sell it before the new tlds hit the market next year bc I think a storm is brewing for the dot coms.

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:lol:

Great name. Mid $xx,xxx is possible but I think you would need consistent revenue to get into $xxx,xxx as some people suggest here.

I think this is a great domain!
The losing weight market will never end.

It's worth about $20k to me plus more or less 10 months worth of exisiting revenue...

Enduser value, who really knows lol... I can see it sell for low $xxx.xxx if you wait for the right offer but that might never happen...

Here are some similar domain sales:

loseweightfast.com $40,000 2008-02-13 snapnames
weightlosspills.com $35,000 2007-04-11 Moniker
weights.com $32,000 2012-03-29 sedo.com
weighttraining.com $18,751 2009-08-07 sedo.com
weightlosstips.com $17,000 2010-07-09 private sale
physicianweightloss.com $16,800 2008-02-27 afternic.com
medicalweightloss.com $10,255 2006-11-01 TDNAM
weightplan.com $10,000 2011-01-10 sedo.com

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List it for sale on Afternic.com, Sedo.com, Aftermarket.com, & GoDaddy.com and wait for the buyer if you want somewhere around $xxx,xxx. Find alternate ways to monetize the site so you can keep posting new content.