Domain Empire

information A Study of LLNN Domain Names Used in China

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With the rising demand for LLLL (letter, letter, letter, letter) domain names in China, I wanted to find out if other four-character patterns, such as LLNN (letter, letter, number, number), LLLN, NLLL, and NNLL were also being used to develop websites in China. To explore that, I studied the use of LLNN domains on the .cn extension.

There are 67,600 possible .cn domain names with the pattern LLNN. I used a computer program to generate a list of all 67,600 names starting from AA00 to ZZ99. Because of time constraints, I chose to focus on a small sample of the possible names. I used Microsoft Access rnd() to randomly generate a sample of 676 names (1% of the total possibilities).

Once I had the sample, I used GoDaddy’s bulk search to count how many domains in my sample were registered. Then I visited each domain name and noted which domains had websites on them, ignoring those with only parking or sales landing pages. Finally, I studied the relationship between each domain name and the website developed on it. Below are the results.


Survey Results

GoDaddy bulk search revealed that 170 of the 676 domain names (16%) in the sample are registered. I found that 105 of the registered names (62% of registrations) have been developed into websites.

Among the 105 developed domain names:
  • 28 names contain one or more so-called non-CHIP characters (a, e, i, o, u, v, 0, 4). For example, SB47.cn is a betting site and the name contains a "4" which many domain investors don't like. However, this study shows that a significant number of end users (27%) don't mind using a domain name containing such “non-premium” characters.

  • In my study, certain numbers appeared more frequently than others, indicating their popularity. The number “8” is present in thirty-one names, and seven names end with “0.” Repeating numbers were popular as well, such as “99” with seven appearances and “11” with six. 46% of developed domains in the sample contain at least one of the above mentioned numbers/patterns.

  • 82 of the 105 developed LLNN domain names (78%) have no direct relationship to the company’s name that is shown on the website, suggesting that many Chinese companies use domains in a different way than simply matching a domain name to their company name.

    However, the other 23 domains (22%) partially or fully match the name of the company that uses them. There might be added value in these domains because someone can more easily associate the domain with the company using it, which would hopefully make it easier to remember.

    The companies with matching domains are listed below, with the bold part of the company name indicating the portion that matches the domain.
    MatchedDomainCompanyPinyin
    NNDG39.cn商巨网络Shang Ju Wang Luo
    NNWZ11.cn壹壹电脑店Yi Yi Dian Nao Dian
    LLNNTA29.cn他二舅的博客Ta Er Jiu De Bo Ke
    LLNBU88.cn深圳布巴科技有限公司Shen Zhen Bu Ba Ke Ji You Xian Gong Si
    LLNFD99.cn福建丰达酒业有限公司Fu Jian Feng Da Jiu Ye You Xian Gong Si
    LLDJ02.cn点睛SEMDian Jing SEM
    LLDJ13.cn点睛SEMDian Jing SEM
    LLHK95.cn深圳市华科企业管理Shen Zhen Shi Hua Ke Qi Ye Guan Li
    LLHS80.cn航胜传媒Hang Shen Chuan Mei
    LLHX33.cn深圳市鸿效节能Shen Zhen Shi Hong Xiao Jie Neng
    LLLV73.cn泸沽湖旅游Lu Gu Hu Lv You
    LLMR68.cn广州敏睿企业管理服务Guang Zhou Min Rui Qi Ye Guan Li Fu Wu
    LLOF98.cn上海进光办公家具有限公司Shanghai Jinguang Office Furniture Co., Ltd.
    LLRZ66.cn容斋Rong Zhai
    LLSB47.cn申博娱乐城Shen Bo Yu Le Cheng
    LLSG16.cn深圳深钢金属Shen zhen Shen Gang Jin Shu
    LLSW64.cn申威社区Shen Wei She Qu
    LLTZ51.cn台州网络Tai Zhou Wang Luo
    LLWH80.cn武汉微堂园艺生活馆Wu Han Wei Tang Yuan Yi Sheng Huo Guan
    LLWX32.cn网迅网络科技Wang Xun Wang Luo Ke Ji
    LLYO10.cn游.食You Shi
    LDN99.cn当当网Dang Dang Wang
    LNA87.cn宁波市鄞州博灿商贸Ning Bo Shi Yin Zhou Bo Can Shang Mao


Domain Case Studies

Let’s investigate the matches between some of these LLNN domain names and the companies that use them. As you may know, most Chinese companies have a long legal name and a short trading name. Some companies may use their domain to match their short, trading name, as several on this list have done. One can find a well-known company’s trading name via a Baidu search, but it is harder to get the trading names of lesser known entities. It was difficult to find and verify the trading names of the companies on this list, so in the interest of time, I’ve made my best guess as to what they might be.

FD99.cn is a domain name on the above list that takes full advantage of the LLNN format, meaning that both the LL and NN parts match the company’s name and its offerings. Looking at this domain shows us a way that Chinese companies can use LLNN domain names to create meaningful connections to their businesses.

The company that owns FD99.cn has a long legal name: Fu Jian Feng Da Jiu Ye You Xian Gong Si. However, the company’s trading name is simply “Feng Da,” making FD a perfect acronym for it. Two-character LL domains are frequently used this way in China. However, two-character domain names are rare and adding easy to remember numbers to a domain can preserve the two-letter match to a company’s trading name while keeping the domain name short.

Feng Da takes further advantage of the LLNN format by using the numbers in their domain to create an even stronger connection between their domain name and company. When pronounced in Mandarin, “99” sounds similar to “Jiu Jiu,” which means “wine,” an apt description of Feng Da, which is a wine brewing company. As FD99.cn shows, LLNN domain names provide an opportunity for Chinese companies because they can match their trading name with the relevant two letters and use a meaningful pair of numbers to help customers remember their business.

BU88.cn is owned by Shen Zhen Bu Ba Ke Ji You Xian Gong Si, a company that offers services to add money to prepaid game and calling cards online. “Bu Ba” is probably its trading name. From their domain, “Bu” is a Pinyin word and “8” rhymes with “Ba,” which would make BU8.cn a perfect match. However, BU8.cn is already taken, so the use of the repeating 88 in BU88.cn maintains the association with the company name and makes the name easy to recall.

OF98.cn is owned by Shanghai Jin Guang Office Furniture Co., Ltd., an office furniture company. OF98.cn has a connection to the English name of the company, because “OF” is an acronym for “Office Furniture.” I do not see a connection between “98” and the company name.


Conclusion

ThIs study shows the current state of the market, but I think that it may change with time if more executives choose to take advantage of the benefits of using a domain name that is more closely related to their company’s name.

As the demand for short domain names continues to grow, it seems likely that more companies will develop websites on LLNN .cn domain names. Similarly, since .com is a preferred domain extension in China, the demand for LLNN .com domain names will likely grow as well. I have attached an Excel file containing the data used in this study for those who are interested in it.

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Very informative, detailed and helpful as always. Thank you @Kassey Lee
 
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Great article Very Informative, Thanks Kassey
 
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Interesting, Kassey. I bought a bunch of LLNN.com in speculation, but have been selling them off. It seems like a situation where they are used by real end-users but there is not a reseller value. It's the opposite of some other Chinese trends where the reseller value is high relative to the end-user value.
How about NNLL and LLLN?
There is so many NNLL names available I think you woul go broke trying to cover all bases. It might be safe to grab somethat I peronally like and wouldnt mind using for myself. That way if it dont sell atleast im in the mix
As I see it, scarcity is the key on the back of rising demand for .com all over the world by Internet startups. With 4C, no new gTLD can compete with it unlike 2- or 3-word .com domain names such as bookclub.com vs book.club. LLNN is the best among 4C because it matches the 2-character name preference in China and we still don't have numeric extension to compete with it. However, my survey here points to a long term trend based on genuine end user demand. You may have to wait for many years, just like 4L being of little values for many years.

any opinion on .xyz or .ws catching on in the China market for LLNN ( we have bj10.xyz)? Thank you for all these great posts
As far as I can see, most extensions other than .cn and .com are mainly bought for speculation in China. Domain speculation may become mainstream if it can go the way of currency where 95% are traded everyday for speculation. At this moment. I don't have a clear picture.
 
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I picked up 3 really good ones today. (I think they are good) lol

Would you suggest sitting back and wait for someone to contact me? Or would you suggest that I do some outbound contacting myself?

Lastly, on a perfect day...... what is the most you can see someone paying for a LLNN? (just curious)
 
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I just acquired 88da.com today from a Godaddy auction a week or so ago. I love its potential as da means big or strong in China and we all know the power of 88.
Da88.com goes to a casino. Unless I get a fantastic offer, I'll let it marinate and hope it develops into something big (pun intended) over time.
 
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Very Informative, Thank You.
 
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Would you suggest sitting back and wait for someone to contact me? Or would you suggest that I do some outbound contacting myself?

Lastly, on a perfect day...... what is the most you can see someone paying for a LLNN? (just curious)
Unless the craze in 2015 comes back, I don't see my collection of LLNN .com worth much at this moment. Hope this will give you some hint.
 
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Unless the craze in 2015 comes back, I don't see my collection of LLNN .com worth much at this moment. Hope this will give you some hint.
I was hoping to hear some zero's. lol. But I got it. Thanks for your insite.
 
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Great research, kasey. Learn a lot as newbie domainer here :D
 
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Great research, kasey. Learn a lot as newbie domainer here :D
Welcome to Nameprose. I look forward to your contribution on this forum.
 
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What do you think of the punycode Chinese domains? I just bought up my name in all derivatives that are relevant... because that's my name. I then bought my surname_occupation and somehow most of those weren't taken although some were outrageously priced. Didn't cost me a bundle but I also don't see them used very often, although since I'm not changing careers any time soon I'm not looking to sell in particular on these (especially my name), but there's a lot of empty space there.
 
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Hi @youdoyou, first of all welcome. Are you referring to Chinese IDN on traditional extensions or Chinese IDN.IDN? I'm not a fan of the former but like the latter because I never like mixing two languages. Even for the Chinese IDN.IDN, at this stage, they are still not very popular. But, I feel Chinese IDN.IDNs have great potential because Chinese people usually remember names as Chinese characters not English or Pinyin words.
 
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Howdy! I went for a little of the first but mostly the new IDNs, and it's good to hear from someone else that the idea makes sense, since my spider senses were tingling when I saw that nobody had registered any derivative of my surname and occupation - 3 characters, and both pretty common - nor really any of the traditional extensions that I looked at, and they weren't even expensive. Considering that I don't plan on changing my name any time soon I've got them locked up for a bit and it's pretty exciting actually. Usually I look for undervalued assets and essentially create value by contextualizing them, but a straight up availability on my first try is... well, it's worth the digging out my Chinese ID for that's for sure.

Going by the pinyin form feels a bit like a stranger calling you in Chinese by just your given name - technically not incorrect but awkward as hell, at least the numbers thing has a long tradition.
 
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@youdoyou, good luck with your name IDN.IDN. The potential use of your domain name may be limited unless your name is very common in China.
 
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Hello Kassey, in your opinion which do you think has more value? bj99.org or bj66.org
 
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Thanks Kassey for your informative article. Domainers can use the information for their benefit.
 
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which do you think has more value? bj99.org or bj66.org
I think both are fine for a non-profit organization based in Beijing. 9 rhymes with 久(long time) so may be good for longevity health-related services. 6 rhymes with 乐(fun) and is associated with the word 顺 (smooth) so carry very positive meaning. I see good potential of .org in China for application in non-profit field in the long term.

Apart from the obvious translation of BJ to Beijing, BJ can also mean 保健 (health care), 比较 (compare), 报价 (price quote), 搬家(move to a different address), and many more.

I particularly like BJ as 保健 (health care). Used as a health care site, it will no longer be limited to Beijing. A nation-wide coverage is better, imo.
 
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I think both are fine for a non-profit organization based in Beijing. 9 rhymes with 久(long time) so may be good for longevity health-related services. 6 rhymes with 乐(fun) and is associated with the word 顺 (smooth) so carry very positive meaning. I see good potential of .org in China for application in non-profit field in the long term.

Apart from the obvious translation of BJ to Beijing, BJ can also mean 保健 (health care), 比较 (compare), 报价 (price quote), 搬家(move to a different address), and many more.

I particularly like BJ as 保健 (health care). Used as a health care site, it will no longer be limited to Beijing. A nation-wide coverage is better, imo.
Thank you so much for the information, I greatly appreciate it.
 
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I just acquired 88da.com today from a Godaddy auction a week or so ago. I love its potential as da means big or strong in China and we all know the power of 88.
Da88.com goes to a casino. Unless I get a fantastic offer, I'll let it marinate and hope it develops into something big (pun intended) over time.
Keep us updated
 
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@Kassey Lee can you send me a DM. I can't message you for some reason. Thanks.
 
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@DomainVP Happy to comment if you post any question here.
 
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