Short Domain Buyout Info

VURG · 03-17-2008, 05:14 PM

Warning: Participating in a buyout is highly risky. While some Namepros members have made lots of money participating in buyouts, others have lost hundreds or thousands. I don’t advise anyone to be involved in a buyout without understanding that they have the potential to lose a lot of money and should take full responsibility for any failures in their actions.

I thought I’d start this thread as a reference for short domains as to what types of domains are bought out and what types of domains are not. To be included, the following characteristics must hold:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/445874-short-domain-buyout-info.html

- Domain is no longer than 5 characters in length (A character is considered a number, letter or hyphen)
- Domain type must be at least 1000 similar domains.
- Domain registration fees must be less than US$50
- Domain type must have >50% already registered or be two characters long.
- Domain types are distinguished by letter composition, NOT DEFINITION. (e.g. 4 letter .net domains with “TV” in them is not considered a type of domain as “TV” has some form of definition.)
- For arguments sake, the letter “y” is considered to be a vowel at the end of a word but a consonant at all other positions on a word.

For simplification purposes the following codes exist:

L – Letter
N – Number
C – Letter or Number (When not used in conjunction with the letter V)
C – Consonant (When used in conjunction with the letter V)
V – Vowel
P – Premium Letter (One of the following letters: A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,L,M,N,O,P,R,S,T)

Bought Out Domains

2 Character Domains
CC .com/.net/.org/.info/.us/.cn/.ca/.biz/.in
3 Character Domains
LLL .com/.net/.org/.info/.mobi/.asia/.us/.es*/.cn/.it/.eu/.ca/.in/.biz/.nl/.pl/.de/.co.uk/.ru/.fr
NNN .com/.net/.org/.info/.mobi/.asia/.us/.cn/.eu/.ca/.in/.cc/.biz/.ru
C-C .com/.net/.org/.info/.in/.ru
LLN .com/.net/.ru
LNN .com/.net/.ru
NNL .com/.net/.ru
NLL .com/.net/.ru
LNL .com/.net/.ru
NLN .com/.net/.ru
4 Character Domains
NNNN .com/.net/.mobi/.cn/.com.cn
LLLL .com/.cn/.com.cn
PPPP .net
LLLL (maximum of two letter types) .net
CVCV .net/.info
VCVC .net
C--C .com
N-NN .com
NN-N .com
5 Character Domains
NNNNN .com
L-L-L .com
N-N-N .com

* bought out or reserved
Potential Buyouts
(must be >50% regged or 2 characters with reg fees below $50US)
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=445874

2 Character Domains
CC.VG > 50% of 1296 registered (Buy@moniker.com for <$30/year)
CC.CX > 50% of 1296 registered (Buy@Domains.cx)
CC.VC > 50% of 1296 registered (Buy@dotster.com for <$30/year - $25 with coupon)
CC.LV > 50% of 1296 registered
CC.COM.AU (Not legally tradeable, Restrictions apply) > 50% of 1296 registered
3 Character Domains
NNN.ME > 68% of 1000 are registered - link
LLL.CC > 62% of 17576 registered list
LLN.ORG >50% of 6760 registered
LLN.ORG (Premium Letters & Numbers:No JKQUVWXYZ/046) >90% registered
LNN.ORG >89% of 2600 registered list
NNL.ORG >62% of 2600 registered list
C-C.EU > 90% of 1296 registered
C-C.BIZ > 50% of 1296 registered
C-C.ASIA >50% of 1296 registered
4 Character Domains
L-LL.COM >65% of 17576 registered link
LL-L.COM >65% of 17576 registered link
L-NN.COM >60% of 2600 registered
LLLL.NET >54% of 456976 registered
NNNN.ORG > 85% of 10000 registered *HOT* link
5 Character Domains
L-L-L.DE >52% of 17576 registered list
NNNNN.NET >50% of 100000 registered link
CVCVV.COM >55% of 55125 domains registered
CVVCV.COM >52% of 55125 domains registered
CVCCV.COM (CC being same letters) >50% of 13125 registered
Palindromic CVCVC.com >82% of 2205 registered
VCVCV.COM >50% of 55125 domains registered
VCVCV.COM (Premium Letters) >95% of 10816 registered list
CVCVC.COM (Premium Letters) >83% of 35152 registered list
CVCV(+S) > 84% of 11025 registered - link
CVCCV.COM (Premium Letters) >70% of 35152 registered link

Quick Stats
>50% of 456,976 LLLL.net are registered
~50% (majority LLLL.com) of 1,307,248 CCCC.com are registered (includes hyphens)
>10% but <15% of 11,881,376 LLLLL.com are registered. stats

Significant Buyout Dates
LLL.com buyout: early 2000 ref
LLL.net buyout: early 2001 ref
LLL.info buyout: Feb. 23, 2004 ref
LLL.biz buyout: Feb. 25, 2004 ref
LLLL.com - November 2nd 2007
NNNNN.com - ?
L-L-L.com - October 2007
? - Any more?

I will aim to regularly update this initial post with more detail and relevant info. If you have any suggestions of domains that are bought out, potential buyouts, registration data on buyouts, links to Namepros threads relevant to a particular buyout, etc… feel welcome to mention it.

I don't know a lot on country codes and which domains are bought out and which domains have 2 character domains available or bought out. Some country codes don't have 2 character domains and I don't want to mention them.

AussieDomainer · 03-17-2008, 08:01 PM

That's some great info there Phil. I appreciate all your hard work as it's a great reference to look to when considering where to invest funds and what's been bought out, etc.

Rep added

ssamriga · 03-18-2008, 02:24 AM

Well after going through all possible LL combinations manually I can say that there are less than 10% of LL.LVs left. Unfortunately those left have Trademark restrictions, therefore can only be registered if you sign a waiver to give up rights of the name in case legal owner of TM wants it.
Though it can still be added to list as almost buyout...

-REECE- · 03-18-2008, 03:06 AM

Great post Phil

Originally Posted by VURG

Warning: Participating in a buyout is highly risky. While some Namepros members have made lots of money participating in buyouts, others have lost hundreds or thousands. I don’t advise anyone to be involved in a buyout without understanding that they have the potential to lose a lot of money and should take full responsibility for any failures in their actions.

^^

Needed to give that some more emphasis for any newcomers who may be reading this

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=445874

Reward never comes without risk and there's no greater opportunity for both profit and loss than investing in a market pre-buyout.

sOliver · 03-18-2008, 10:30 AM

++sticky
rep added

You should add "LLL.de" as well since L-L-L.de is on your list.

skylineleong · 03-18-2008, 12:36 PM

Pls add domain LN.in , NL.in , N-L.in , L-N.in
Thanks

Malaysia · 03-18-2008, 12:42 PM

Great list.rep added.If possible add the list available names left too.
so we can have another buyout sooner..

do u have the list for theseavailable ones?
VCVCV.COM (Premium Letters) >83% of 10816 registered
CVCVC.COM (Premium Letters) >80% of 35152 registered

thetruman · 03-18-2008, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by skylineleong

Pls add domain LN.in , NL.in , N-L.in , L-N.in
Thanks

then you should add nnn.in and lll.in

-REECE- · 03-18-2008, 04:38 PM

Stickied.

Travis · 03-18-2008, 05:02 PM

You may want to list the premium numbers also.

ecalc · 03-18-2008, 05:18 PM

Good work VURG.

One typo: NNNN.org is double listed as "bought out" and "potential buyout."

VURG · 03-18-2008, 08:13 PM

Thanks everyone for the feedback and suggestions. I have been thinking about starting this thread for months and so it is great to see that it is appreciated. Thanks Reece for the sticky.

Just for clarification.

LL, NN, NL and LN domains have been merged into CC category.
L-L, N-N, N-L, L-N domains have been merged into C-C category.

My reasoning behind this was that by ensuring that at least 1000 domains fit into a category of domains the cluter is reduced (quantity of info people may consider trivial). From a significance factor any category listed has at least $2500/year being spent on it.

I have limited domains to domains with reg fees under $50US in price. This excludes some extensions like .am. Should I lift it to under $100US or keep it at under $50?

Questions I am interest to know include: I know that LLL.es were very close to being bought out. Anyone know if they are? Anyone know if CC.es exist? Are NNN.es bought out? What chinese domain types are bought out other than LLLL.cn and LLLL.com.cn? CVCV.TV domains is another category of domains that may have more than 50% regged?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=445874

Premium Numbers? Do people really care if a number is premium? I haven't seen a lot of discussion on it. I'm guessing that this was in reference to 0,4 and 6 being non-premium and the rest premium. (ref:3character.com)

Malaysia, links to lists are now listed. Thanks to rpanella for his hard work.

Reece, I like the level of emphasis on the warning as bold as is for now. I will consider making it more obvious in the future. (Your highlighting the point a few posts later adds weight to the point)

Malaysia · 03-19-2008, 12:40 AM

we waited quite some years for the LLLL.com
brings back memories to lt96 vurg.com etc
it was really fun

>10% but <15% of 11,881,376 LLLLL.com are registered.
iwonder how long wud this take..
perhaps we shud start a poll of wat is the next expected buyout.

leede · 03-19-2008, 12:43 AM

thxs for the list

***Dotmainer*** · 03-19-2008, 03:28 AM

great post vurg

.....

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VURG · 03-19-2008, 07:02 PM

OK. I removed it.

rpanella · 03-19-2008, 07:18 PM

You could add a link to the table in this thread: http://www.namepros.com/short-domain...tatistics.html

It shows how many of each pattern of 5L.com are available.

okapi · 03-19-2008, 08:30 PM

LLL.it is sold out too, but the cheapest i found is 7.2€ and only residents in europe can buy them.

nicedomains · 03-20-2008, 03:25 AM

Nice post, repped

accent · 03-20-2008, 01:35 PM

Thanks for the list.

I think LL.vc is nearly gone, also other LL.cc names are near and past buyouts. Have been planning a consolidated list of the LL.cc market for years, but information is very contradictory.

RJ · 03-20-2008, 04:57 PM

I just ran a check and as of this minute, 297 of 2600 LNN.org's remain (11%)

See attached .txt for list of remaining ones.

ekal · 03-20-2008, 05:03 PM

2 character .in domains don't exist.

Very cool list however

DnPresident · 03-20-2008, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by -RJ-

I just ran a check and as of this minute, 297 of 2600 LNN.org's remain (11%)
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=445874

See attached .txt for list of remaining ones.

Thanks, I've been getting nnl.org on drop but I went ahead and got these 3 LNN since they were in sequence. H71.ORG H72.ORG H73.ORG....Some others I looked up from your list were already gone.

OOPS! I made a mistake, they were available. Had to get the last of the (Letter i) I46.ORG I92.ORG I97.ORG

Repped

Dave C

vlad74 · 03-20-2008, 05:49 PM

I think three .VG ($28.50 at Moniker) still left:

EC.VG
SE.VG
DZ.VG

RJ · 03-20-2008, 06:12 PM

NNL.org stats: 62.9% registered, 965 remain. List attached.

Premium LLN.org:

LLN.org without JKQUVWXYZ/0: 89.9% of 2304 registered, 234 remain
LLN.org without JKQUVWXYZ/046: 90.6% of 1792 registered, 169 remain

03-17-2008, 05:14 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
VURG VURG Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 2,606	Short Domain Buyout Info Warning: Participating in a buyout is highly risky. While some Namepros members have made lots of money participating in buyouts, others have lost hundreds or thousands. I don’t advise anyone to be involved in a buyout without understanding that they have the potential to lose a lot of money and should take full responsibility for any failures in their actions. I thought I’d start this thread as a reference for short domains as to what types of domains are bought out and what types of domains are not. To be included, the following characteristics must hold: ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/445874-short-domain-buyout-info.html - Domain is no longer than 5 characters in length (A character is considered a number, letter or hyphen) - Domain type must be at least 1000 similar domains. - Domain registration fees must be less than US$50 - Domain type must have >50% already registered or be two characters long. - Domain types are distinguished by letter composition, NOT DEFINITION. (e.g. 4 letter .net domains with “TV” in them is not considered a type of domain as “TV” has some form of definition.) - For arguments sake, the letter “y” is considered to be a vowel at the end of a word but a consonant at all other positions on a word. For simplification purposes the following codes exist: L – Letter N – Number C – Letter or Number (When not used in conjunction with the letter V) C – Consonant (When used in conjunction with the letter V) V – Vowel P – Premium Letter (One of the following letters: A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,L,M,N,O,P,R,S,T) Bought Out Domains 2 Character Domains CC .com/.net/.org/.info/.us/.cn/.ca/.biz/.in 3 Character Domains LLL .com/.net/.org/.info/.mobi/.asia/.us/.es/.cn/.it/.eu/.ca/.in/.biz/.nl/.pl/.de/.co.uk/.ru/.fr NNN .com/.net/.org/.info/.mobi/.asia/.us/.cn/.eu/.ca/.in/.cc/.biz/.ru C-C .com/.net/.org/.info/.in/.ru LLN .com/.net/.ru LNN .com/.net/.ru NNL .com/.net/.ru NLL .com/.net/.ru LNL .com/.net/.ru NLN .com/.net/.ru 4 Character Domains* NNNN .com/.net/.mobi/.cn/.com.cn LLLL .com/.cn/.com.cn PPPP .net LLLL (maximum of two letter types) .net CVCV .net/.info VCVC .net C--C .com N-NN .com NN-N .com 5 Character Domains NNNNN .com L-L-L .com N-N-N .com * bought out or reserved Potential Buyouts (must be >50% regged or 2 characters with reg fees below $50US) ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=445874 2 Character Domains CC.VG > 50% of 1296 registered (Buy@moniker.com for <$30/year) CC.CX > 50% of 1296 registered (Buy@Domains.cx) CC.VC > 50% of 1296 registered (Buy@dotster.com for <$30/year - $25 with coupon) CC.LV > 50% of 1296 registered CC.COM.AU (Not legally tradeable, Restrictions apply) > 50% of 1296 registered 3 Character Domains NNN.ME > 68% of 1000 are registered - link LLL.CC > 62% of 17576 registered list LLN.ORG >50% of 6760 registered LLN.ORG (Premium Letters & Numbers:No JKQUVWXYZ/046) >90% registered LNN.ORG >89% of 2600 registered list NNL.ORG >62% of 2600 registered list C-C.EU > 90% of 1296 registered C-C.BIZ > 50% of 1296 registered C-C.ASIA >50% of 1296 registered 4 Character Domains L-LL.COM >65% of 17576 registered link LL-L.COM >65% of 17576 registered link L-NN.COM >60% of 2600 registered LLLL.NET >54% of 456976 registered NNNN.ORG > 85% of 10000 registered HOT link 5 Character Domains L-L-L.DE >52% of 17576 registered list NNNNN.NET >50% of 100000 registered link CVCVV.COM >55% of 55125 domains registered CVVCV.COM >52% of 55125 domains registered CVCCV.COM (CC being same letters) >50% of 13125 registered Palindromic CVCVC.com >82% of 2205 registered VCVCV.COM >50% of 55125 domains registered VCVCV.COM (Premium Letters) >95% of 10816 registered list CVCVC.COM (Premium Letters) >83% of 35152 registered list CVCV(+S) > 84% of 11025 registered - link CVCCV.COM (Premium Letters) >70% of 35152 registered link Quick Stats >50% of 456,976 LLLL.net are registered ~50% (majority LLLL.com) of 1,307,248 CCCC.com are registered (includes hyphens) >10% but <15% of 11,881,376 LLLLL.com are registered. stats Significant Buyout Dates LLL.com buyout: early 2000 ref LLL.net buyout: early 2001 ref LLL.info buyout: Feb. 23, 2004 ref LLL.biz buyout: Feb. 25, 2004 ref LLLL.com - November 2nd 2007 NNNNN.com - ? L-L-L.com - October 2007 ? - Any more? I will aim to regularly update this initial post with more detail and relevant info. If you have any suggestions of domains that are bought out, potential buyouts, registration data on buyouts, links to Namepros threads relevant to a particular buyout, etc… feel welcome to mention it. I don't know a lot on country codes and which domains are bought out and which domains have 2 character domains available or bought out. Some country codes don't have 2 character domains and I don't want to mention them. Last edited by VURG; 08-31-2008 at 04:53 PM.

03-17-2008, 08:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
AussieDomainer Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 2,648	That's some great info there Phil. I appreciate all your hard work as it's a great reference to look to when considering where to invest funds and what's been bought out, etc. Rep added __________________ Cricket Rules Diesel Generator Engine Car Window Tinting Facts About Australia

03-18-2008, 02:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
ssamriga Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: EU Posts: 1,872	Well after going through all possible LL combinations manually I can say that there are less than 10% of LL.LVs left. Unfortunately those left have Trademark restrictions, therefore can only be registered if you sign a waiver to give up rights of the name in case legal owner of TM wants it. Though it can still be added to list as almost buyout... __________________ SnowyRange.com 16 years old PR3 GEO name with traffic My domains for sale: DNFit.com - Domain Names that Fit Your Business

03-18-2008, 10:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
sOliver NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 305	++sticky rep added You should add "LLL.de" as well since L-L-L.de is on your list. __________________ RLTT.com is for SALE Domain-Portfolio.com - Coming Soon \|Webmaster Blog

03-18-2008, 12:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
skylineleong Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: SkylineLeong.com Posts: 4,767 Follow @skylineleong	Pls add domain LN.in , NL.in , N-L.in , L-N.in Thanks __________________ ★ ★ ★ LLLL.com & LLLL.net ★ ★ ★ LOW BIN . 3DMonster.com , 3DWebs.net, 3DWorld.org . MMM.im, 6446.net, yuuj.com (PM offer) Searchs.co, 3Dating.com, Domain-Name.me

03-18-2008, 12:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
Malaysia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Malaysia Posts: 3,278	Great list.rep added.If possible add the list available names left too. so we can have another buyout sooner.. do u have the list for theseavailable ones? VCVCV.COM (Premium Letters) >83% of 10816 registered CVCVC.COM (Premium Letters) >80% of 35152 registered __________________ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ██████Work Smart Play Hard! ████

03-18-2008, 04:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
-REECE- NamePros Expert Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 8,996	Stickied.

03-18-2008, 05:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
Travis - Siyk.com - Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kyle/San Marcos Texas Posts: 1,764	You may want to list the premium numbers also. __________________ Aupz.com - Dolx.com - EIHH.com - FFVF.com - IEEY.com - Siyk.com - xGld.com - FGGF.net - LCCL.net - PPBB.net - QQQN.net KyleTexas.net - One of the fastest growing cities in Texas

03-18-2008, 05:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
ecalc Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,008	Good work VURG. One typo: NNNN.org is double listed as "bought out" and "potential buyout."

03-18-2008, 08:13 PM	THREAD STARTER #12 (permalink)
VURG VURG Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 2,606	Thanks everyone for the feedback and suggestions. I have been thinking about starting this thread for months and so it is great to see that it is appreciated. Thanks Reece for the sticky. Just for clarification. LL, NN, NL and LN domains have been merged into CC category. L-L, N-N, N-L, L-N domains have been merged into C-C category. My reasoning behind this was that by ensuring that at least 1000 domains fit into a category of domains the cluter is reduced (quantity of info people may consider trivial). From a significance factor any category listed has at least $2500/year being spent on it. I have limited domains to domains with reg fees under $50US in price. This excludes some extensions like .am. Should I lift it to under $100US or keep it at under $50? Questions I am interest to know include: I know that LLL.es were very close to being bought out. Anyone know if they are? Anyone know if CC.es exist? Are NNN.es bought out? What chinese domain types are bought out other than LLLL.cn and LLLL.com.cn? CVCV.TV domains is another category of domains that may have more than 50% regged? ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=445874 Premium Numbers? Do people really care if a number is premium? I haven't seen a lot of discussion on it. I'm guessing that this was in reference to 0,4 and 6 being non-premium and the rest premium. (ref:3character.com) Malaysia, links to lists are now listed. Thanks to rpanella for his hard work. Reece, I like the level of emphasis on the warning as bold as is for now. I will consider making it more obvious in the future. (Your highlighting the point a few posts later adds weight to the point) Last edited by VURG; 03-18-2008 at 08:57 PM.

03-19-2008, 12:40 AM	#13 (permalink)
Malaysia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Malaysia Posts: 3,278	we waited quite some years for the LLLL.com brings back memories to lt96 vurg.com etc it was really fun >10% but <15% of 11,881,376 LLLLL.com are registered. iwonder how long wud this take.. perhaps we shud start a poll of wat is the next expected buyout. __________________ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ██████Work Smart Play Hard! ████

03-19-2008, 12:43 AM	#14 (permalink)
leede Account Closed Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,602	thxs for the list

03-19-2008, 03:28 AM	#15 (permalink)
*Dotmainer* Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,249	great post vurg ..... - __________________ █ █ █ Last edited by Dotmainer; 03-20-2008 at 05:30 AM. Reason: solved

03-19-2008, 07:02 PM	THREAD STARTER #16 (permalink)
VURG VURG Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 2,606	OK. I removed it.

03-19-2008, 07:18 PM	#17 (permalink)
rpanella NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 233	You could add a link to the table in this thread: http://www.namepros.com/short-domain...tatistics.html It shows how many of each pattern of 5L.com are available. __________________ LLLL.com Sales

03-19-2008, 08:30 PM	#18 (permalink)
okapi NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Berlin Posts: 499	LLL.it is sold out too, but the cheapest i found is 7.2€ and only residents in europe can buy them.

03-20-2008, 03:25 AM	#19 (permalink)
nicedomains NamePros Expert Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,254 Follow @NameTalent	Nice post, repped __________________ NameTalent.com Generate QR Codes

03-20-2008, 01:35 PM	#20 (permalink)
accent Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,295	Thanks for the list. I think LL.vc is nearly gone, also other LL.cc names are near and past buyouts. Have been planning a consolidated list of the LL.cc market for years, but information is very contradictory. __________________ Domains for sale For List Of Country Code Domains Jewelry of Tibet and Nepal TibetanJewelry.mobi Tibetan Symbols Om Pyramids Ancient Egyptian Secrets Ancient Mystery Eden Shakti

03-20-2008, 05:03 PM	#22 (permalink)
ekal Play up Pompey! Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,326	2 character .in domains don't exist. Very cool list however Last edited by ekal; 03-20-2008 at 05:10 PM.

03-20-2008, 05:49 PM	#24 (permalink)
vlad74 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 2,544	I think three .VG ($28.50 at Moniker) still left: EC.VG SE.VG DZ.VG __________________ mermaid Last edited by vlad74; 03-20-2008 at 07:20 PM.

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Short Domain Buyout Info

Probable next buyout is NLL.org