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Why short domains will keep rising in value for still many years

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There are many newbies here everyday and you can see it.

But what people don`t see is where they are from , unless they tell us that.

As many of you know , I`m from Rome , Italy and have been there till I was 28, then in 2004 I left that Country.

At that time, I heard very little about domain value despite internet was the center of my daily life.

As far as I know, in Italy , the "domain world" and the business behind it like we know it know was late to be discovered, very late.

This mainly because , the main language of it is English and very few (I should say "rare") italians read the news in English.

Plus, financial issues that are common in italian families since the introduction of the Euro , made investments in domains something that is rare within italians that live in Italy. That guy is one exception as surely he had no money problems. I doubt he handregged those names , but I`d like to find it out and have a chat with him to know the story behind them.
I was using internet about 10 to 12 hours everyday in Italy since 2000 till 2004 and never heard about LLL.com till I was reading news in English , here in Australia.
We just did not know about it. And I bet , still many italians (and not only) still don`t know.
How many new investors will come to the domain world if there was a massive coverage? Too many people try to get rich b y buying stocks and hoping to get 10% in a year on their portfolio while we complain on getting 500%.....just imagine as the world internet penetration will grow from the actual 18 % to a possible 80 %......then even a random LLLL.com or L-L-L.com will be worth 4 figures.
This is what I expect within 10 years. It`s not a guarantee or a promise , it`s my point of view.

I have been dealing with the stockmarkets around the world for 8 years and there are a few things I can say:

- the domain industry is growing faster and there are great investment opportunities as long as everyone understands that an investment offer always a risk.

- evaluing this risk versus the benefits is the problem.

- no one can predict the future so my best advice is that you need to put on domains only the money you can loose exactly like for the stocks.

- no one can tell you for sure if a CVCV.com in 2010 will be worth $50,000 or $10 , it`s impossible to be sure 100 %.

What do we know , is what happened in the past and what`s happening NOW. So we have statistics and Trends that help us in making the best decision.


Few years ago, you could buy a LLL.com for $200 and a nice LLLL.com for reg fee.

Now , even the ugliest LLL.com goes for nearly $10,000 and the LLLL.com are sold out.

The CVCV.info , the CVCV.net are sold out , the L-L-L.com are sold out too.

And so many LLL.ccTLD.

Every short domain keep rising in value while we are still just few domainers compared to how many could come and join the market. Even if large part of the new internet users will have little money to spend , they will generate more traffic , more revenue for all internet companies , starting from the advertising industry. What I feel is like watching the Google stock price the day of the IPO , well below $100 and watching it these days hitting the $700 mark. I feel that the Internet is still very young.

I keep looking at those datas from www.internetworldstats.com and at the miserable 18 % of worldwide internet users and then I come up with this in my mind:

"We are still in the beginning......if the internet market was a building of 100 floors , we are like at the 20th floor or so, the best view has yet to come".
 
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What I meant guys is that domaining biz is not widespread in Italy and doesn t have a large base. Italian people holding, buying and selling domains are there...(there are many on english speaking forums as you know :hehe: ). Taxes might be an issue actually :td: , but also the fact that is an internet business (obviously) where english is the mother tongue (less obvious but english is not spoken by a large part of the population); just graduate people, with internet knowledge, english speaking, with healthy finance are potential domainers. And honestly this is not a big slice of our population. I can t rmember nwspaper writing an article on domaining or about the market around it. And hopefully the tax man is not reading... :hehe:
 
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Wow ... and this became an Italian thread.

i think it is time for Namepros to consider language sub forums.
 
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alexsimon said:
Wow ... and this became an Italian thread.

i think it is time for Namepros to consider language sub forums.

And here I was thinking we were going to have a debate about whether LLLL.com would follow in LLL.com's footsteps or not ;) Was a good read anyway... :)
 
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Going back to the topic, I would be very, very careful in being so optimistic about the future of this industry segment (short domains). The number of variables which can affect the value of our names is vast. You don't have any sort of guarantee from any point of view (just as an example: think about ICANN and its virtually complete power over the namespace. Since we're speaking about Italy, do you remember the time when each physical individual was elegible to own 1 and only 1 .it domain?).
We're still playing on a risky field, if this wasn't the case, how much time do you think would take to Goldman Sachs or similar to invest huge amount of money on a 500% ROI market?
I don't want to be negative and pull down the fun, not at all, but It's just an advice for newcomers not to believe blindly to anything they read on the forums, ad hoc created hypes included.
 
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ilcesco said:
...... how much time do you think would take to Goldman Sachs or similar to invest huge amount of money on a 500% ROI market?
It is happening now, on a relatively small scale. IREIT has some big time mainstream investors - Ross Perot and Howard Schultz (Starbucks) are two that I have heard of. Domains as a mainstream investment would bring in wealth far beyond any projections I have heard here. But only for those with the types of domains the mainstream wants. I do think LLLL.coms fit into that scenario, but there is no guarantee of that.

When you think of domains as internet real estate then the possibility of big time investors moving in becomes realistic - and this looks like about the 3rd floor of that 100 floor building, not the twentieth. It largely depends on the real comparitive value of domains - is that short domain at $$$$ really a better business decision than that reg fee domain for $. I see both in the real world - top companies doing business on top domains - and top companies using domains they just regged.

These are interesting times.
 
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accentnepal said:
It is happening now, on a relatively small scale. IREIT has some big time mainstream investors - Ross Perot and Howard Schultz (Starbucks) are two that I have heard of. Domains as a mainstream investment would bring in wealth far beyond any projections I have heard here. But only for those with the types of domains the mainstream wants. I do think LLLL.coms fit into that scenario, but there is no guarantee of that.

When you think of domains as internet real estate then the possibility of big time investors moving in becomes realistic - and this looks like about the 3rd floor of that 100 floor building, not the twentieth. It largely depends on the real comparitive value of domains - is that short domain at $$$$ really a better business decision than that reg fee domain for $. I see both in the real world - top companies doing business on top domains - and top companies using domains they just regged.

These are interesting times.


Actually I think that if the stock markets start to take a Bear time like between 2000 and 2003 we could see more investors looking for alternative investments so I won`t rush worrying about recession because the internet penetration increase won`t stop for that.

In the next couple of weeks , I`ll start promoting NamePros and the Domain market in the top italian financial websites.

I strongly think , that there are tons of potential investors that will happily enter this market.
 
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They say a picture is better than 1000 words.....



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italiandragon said:
They say a picture is better than 1000 words.....
Yeah it is. Nothing slowing down about that chart.

And mobile is not yet included, with four times the predicted number of users - and mobile 's tiny keypads will put even more value on short domains.

LLLL.com for president!
Sorry, wrong channel.
 
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I really can't see LLLL's going anywhere but UP for a long time... Really wish I would have bought more of them, come to think of it... :hearts:

These things have "mobile friendly" written all over them :imho:


accentnepal said:
Yeah it is. Nothing slowing down about that chart.

And mobile is not yet included, with four times the predicted number of users - and mobile 's tiny keypads will put even more value on short domains.

LLLL.com for president!
Sorry, wrong channel.
 
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