news Whois data GONE in USA on May 25, 2018

[John Mauriello]

http://www.circleid.com/posts/20180412_holocaust_remembrance_day/

see the last 2 paragraphs

Yet privacy rights were not the issue raised in the discussion convened by the IPC/BC on their proposed model for 'accreditation' to access Whois data. Instead, last Friday, we heard - yet again - how to give unlimited access to Whois data to any law enforcement, any cybersecurity firm, any trademark owner; basically to anyone who seeks it. The potential that journalists might use the non-public WHOIS data was recognized and credited; the potential that journalists might be the subject of a fishing expedition by a government or individual they criticized in a publication was not. The IPC/BC lawyers heading the meeting then heard that the GDRP rejects unlimited access to data — and they, in turn, unilaterally rejected the interpretation and advice of the legal advisor to ICANN, in the Hamilton Memo (#3). They told 150 people listening to the meeting that ICANN could give unlimited access to non-public Whois data to those the IPC/BC chose in their accreditation model.

We need real community consultation and on neutral ground — at ICANN — where we can again discuss what the law requires and what real compliance involves. Most importantly, we need to stop talking about who wants access to domain name data and start talking about how to respect the privacy rights of registrants. On this day of all days, on this week of all weeks, it's time for ICANN to be on the right side of law, the right side of principle and the right side of history. We hold the personal and sensitive data of almost 200 million domain name registrants. Today we must recognize that the privacy of this data could be the difference between protection and suppression.

 

[elevator]

I'm going to change my citizenship..... O. I forgot. we're leaving

Not only in US
Check this
Key changes upcoming:
https://www.eugdpr.org/key-changes.html

 

[elevator]

I am very sure there will be a way out of it

 

[elevator]

It is even better for me as a Nigerian; no body will be looking at my profiles and discriminate anymore

 

[jideofor]

It is even better for me as a Nigerian; no body will be looking at my profiles and discriminate anymore

lol bro,how would you reach end users?

 

[elevator]

lol bro,how would you reach end users?

One way closes another one opens; world will never end. Wait and see what will happen, we have expirienced many obstacles in domaining and there were always way out of them all.

Cheers World will not end.

 

[blockchain]

great..
no more search domain registration and crap web design services

 

[NamesMax]

Looks like gowebby is going out of business

You can always count on @imadoer to find the positive side of what will be coming.

 

[ajenipa]

lol bro,how would you reach end users?

iinbound, info@domain, contact form,mailtester = a lot of work there, hunter and clearbit might help.

the big downside to this is that we might not be able to check the rightful owner of a domain name .

 

[elevator]

Does Whois give you the actual real person to meet for negotiations? 80% No! There are ways you get across to the CEO and Marketing Personnel without using WHOIS before now and such channels are still there.

 

[alwaysforGod]

Ensuring you have a way to be contacted from your domains is a good step for people to take if they want to be able to be reached by users typing a domain in directly.

 

[imadoer]

I think whois will only be gone in the eu. I don't think this will be the case in the USA I guess we have to wait and see. Im sure there will be a loophole somewhere. I will be hunting for one

 

[viralk]

spammers now

VS
Spammers after Whois data is gone. LOL

 

[MR Harrist]

I think no whois is good news at least, I can build more PBN, withouth have to worry ! because sometime, Big G Checking my whois, and take down my PBN , and sometime, my competitor also checking my whois and loking for my networks.

btw Hiding Whois, seem overdo! , because legitimate business will never hide their whois

 

[alwaysforGod]

Well, a little bit of extra steps usually tends to help separate out people who are not as serious, which is beneficial to people are trying to be legitimate (most of the time), so I would like to think this will have positive effects for the internet in general.

 

[gpmgroup]

This is what I would do: Please feel free to shoot it down
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Only 7% of the world lives in the EU.
It only affects companies with a presence in the EU
It only applies to natural EU persons

Therefore for this group only, what is required is registrant consent. (The EU registrars want to quit complaining and either move out the EU or get an email sent out to their registrants.)

The email simply needs to explain that WHOIS is a valuable public resource and asking registrants for consent to:

1. Their data being escrowed to a third party outside the EU
(It’s for the registrant’s benefit in case a registrar decides it desires to keep some of the registrant’s domains.)

2. How they consent to their personal data will be used for public WHOIS purposes
(a) their personal information is displayed in the public WHOIS.
(b) their personal information is held with an existing approved 3rd party privacy service
(c) their objection to their personal data being used for WHOIS purposes

Any that opt for (c) should have all their name, telephone number & email address only removed, a note should be placed in the WHOIS and their name should be replaced with an ID Number/Hash so that all domains owned by the same person can be easily identified of being under the same ownership.

New registrations are easy as a request for consent at the point of registration can be made. People with multiple domains are also easy as this information should only need to be requested once per account. The registrars already have to email registrants about WHOIS compliance notices so this really shouldn’t be such a big problem.

This should mean only a small percentage of the domains in ICANN WHOIS see any change.

Any suggestions errors would be appreciated then we can send ICANN a letter on how to get this fixed before the 25th May

 

[McDuke]

I wonder how Godaddy is going to recoup "privacy" profits for share holders.

 

[alwaysforGod]

They should start with ensuring they properly meet all customer satisfaction needs, since they are now on the more expensive end of things with less to offer!

 

[ajenipa]

I think there is opt in to disclose data

 

[AuctionBio]

I think no whois is good news at least, I can build more PBN, withouth have to worry ! because sometime, Big G Checking my whois, and take down my PBN , and sometime, my competitor also checking my whois and loking for my networks.

btw Hiding Whois, seem overdo! , because legitimate business will never hide their whois

Well said,
you will not find legit business domain hidden behind privacy mostly,
Any one who wants to hide their info, already have the method.

anyways i hope this will work good for domainers, just have a landing page and sit and wait....
afternic is second good option

 

[Kale Kale]

Mmmmm, it a part it is "good", because we will see less spam, but it is bad for our own privacy, those who wish to maintain their anonymity online.