Warning!!! dopa.com !!!

[dreamgolf]

Email from dopa...

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Dear our respect memebers,

As our paypal account was frozen during in the process of payment, we are now asking paypal.com to reactive our paypal account.

In order to assure that all Dopa.com user's paypal accounts are not affected by this case( we are worried that you paypal account will be frozen as well if we make payment ), we have to delay few days to pay your revenue, please dont worry your payment ,we will pay you as soon as we can.

Please let me know if there have anything I can help you.

Best Regards,

Candy Ma

 

[TP]

I applied for dopa.com.

They said 1000 uniques needed.

I had like 800 uniques, and about 2000 impressions (this is from parkingpanel account stats).

I was rejected. Same day of rejection, I received offer from someone asking to buy one of the my high traffic Chinese names. Email said as follows:

From: zyf ( [email protected] )
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 8:28 AM

Message:
i want to buy this domain,Please contact me as soon as possible .qq:68284755
msn:[email protected]


As I was rejected, I decided to collect more Chinese traffic names to meet 1000 unique requirement. After collecting over 1000 unique traffic names. I submitted new application.

I haven't heard back from dopa. However, I received another offer for another of my high chinese traffic names which I had submitted to dopa for evaluation. Message is as follows:

你好,www.(domain name).com 域名的持有者.我想购买你这个域名,请问你愿意转让给我吗?

Basically this person: "龍啓迪" <[email protected]>, wants to buy one of my domains.

There is a web site www.longqidi.com whose whois record shows is located in Hangzhou, China.

Dopa is also in Hangzhou, China.

Co-incidence or not? Its hard to tell given the secrecy of dopa.

You be the judge.

Tks.

 

[Spade]

First I have even heard of this company.

 

[TP]

dopa.com is one of the companies that supposedly monetizes chinese traffic. Supposedly namerich and dopa are the two. Dopa was formerly silverclick? Not sure. Whatever the case, Dopa was "suposed to be famouse" in Chinese traffic names; that is, if they accepted anyone.

 

[IAmAllanShore]

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Couldn't find any patents, but unique business idea. They had flown under may radar as well - might be time to see if they'd like a stab at my nnnn.net's that seem to be heavy in the asian traffic.

-Allan

 

[yanni]

Namerich dot com also does chinese traffic. The new kid on the block so to speak.

 

[circa1850]

I was with Dopa.com. After weeks of being unable to access my control panel once logged in with repeated error messages and about a month of unanswered emails and requests for help, I left.

Then I tried NameRich. I had to submit all my domains for approval. Several weeks went by before they got back to me. So long, in fact, I forgot I had submitted my names to them for approval. When I was approved, I logged into my account and found that every one of the domain names I submitted for approval were all optimized and parked on Sedo parking pages?

What the heck is this? A middle man in between the middle man?

So if someone finds a truly working and worthy Chinese parking model, please let me know. I have several individual domains receiving several thousands of hits per month from Asian traffic.

 

[TP]

CTR for namerich was higher than other parking site because in Chinese. However, pay per click was super low.

I think seeing Sedo parking pages is normal, though, as you are probably viewing from a non-Asia country and they have deal with Sedo in that regard - I think. But if you're in Asia, you should see pages in Chinese.

By the way, there is a need in the marketplace for a parking company for Chinese traffic.

Traffic is huge for chinese traffic names, but hard to monetize.

 

[snareklutz]

Site looks amazingly like yahoo mail?

 

[NP41215]

I applied for dopa.com.

They said 1000 uniques needed.

I had like 800 uniques, and about 2000 impressions (this is from parkingpanel account stats).

I was rejected. Same day of rejection, I received offer from someone asking to buy one of the my high traffic Chinese names. Email said as follows:

From: zyf ( [email protected] )
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 8:28 AM

Message:
i want to buy this domain,Please contact me as soon as possible .qq:68284755
msn:[email protected]


As I was rejected, I decided to collect more Chinese traffic names to meet 1000 unique requirement. After collecting over 1000 unique traffic names. I submitted new application.

I haven't heard back from dopa. However, I received another offer for another of my high chinese traffic names which I had submitted to dopa for evaluation. Message is as follows:

你好,www.(domain name).com 域名的持有者.我想购买你这个域名,请问你愿意转让给我吗?

Basically this person: "龍啓迪" <[email protected]>, wants to buy one of my domains.

There is a web site www.longqidi.com whose whois record shows is located in Hangzhou, China.

Dopa is also in Hangzhou, China.

Co-incidence or not? Its hard to tell given the secrecy of dopa.

You be the judge.

Tks.

I would be very wary dealing with Dopa or SilverClicks.

After generating US$$$ from the Chinese domains I parked with them after 6 months, with steadily increasing traffic, I discovered a few months later that they had stopped crediting PPC revenues to my account.

Upon inquiry, Dopa claimed that they had stopped crediting ANY PPC revenues because my domains did not generate enough revenues, even though the domains were still parked as before and getting traffic and presumably the PPC revenues. This unilateral, arbitrary and capricious action was without prior notice whatsoever.

But did they send me the US$$$ that I had earned. Hell, no. So I did not receive a single cent to date. In fact, even if they did send me the US$$$, I would still be grossly underpaid, since Dopa did not credit any for the subsequent 6 months or so that the domains were parked with them.

Now it is possible they'll send me the US$$$ still owed, and even adjust (e.g. double it) for the subsequent 6 months, but that's assuming a much higher level of ethics and scruples than what I've experienced thus far.

I sometimes wonder, there must be a lot of bad will or ill will generated by companies that failed to pay domainers. Aren't they worried about future repercussions at all? E.g. a class action?

Even in the case of a big company like Google, I've read on the web quite a few gripes by AdSense account holders who claim that Google shut them down or failed to pay them or otherwise owed them hundreds or even thousands of dollars. I suppose that at least some of those claims must be substantially true, given the numerosity and diversity of the complainers. How big is that population I wonder? Thousands? Tens of thousands? Or more? What do you think? Wouldn't the aggrieved domainers love some financial restitution?

NP

 

[ginge133]

The email address '@163.com' is commonly used by chinese scammers (found out the hard way ) so watch out with that to.

 

[circa1850]

Traffic is huge for chinese traffic names, but hard to monetize.

Without a doubt a huge necessity. But the Yuan vs. the USD or any other currency is a major issue. If 1 yuan is roughly 13 cents (?), then there is a big disparity in payment.

Regarding the Sedo issue, all domain where entirely in Chinese complete with title, description, and link on the Sedo landers.

But for the life of me I can not see giving any fraction of what is hardly paying anything again to a middle man between the middle man.

 

[VirtualT]

I think you will find they wern't actually sedo landers, just looked like them.

Without a doubt a huge necessity. But the Yuan vs. the USD or any other currency is a major issue. If 1 yuan is roughly 13 cents (?), then there is a big disparity in payment.

Regarding the Sedo issue, all domain where entirely in Chinese complete with title, description, and link on the Sedo landers.

But for the life of me I can not see giving any fraction of what is hardly paying anything again to a middle man between the middle man.

 

[zachary0611]

i bet chinese traffic will becoming more valuable in the next couple of years

 

[Varon]

I sometimes wonder, there must be a lot of bad will or ill will generated by companies that failed to pay domainers. Aren't they worried about future repercussions at all? E.g. a class action?

Even in the case of a big company like Google, I've read on the web quite a few gripes by AdSense account holders who claim that Google shut them down or failed to pay them or otherwise owed them hundreds or even thousands of dollars. I suppose that at least some of those claims must be substantially true, given the numerosity and diversity of the complainers. How big is that population I wonder? Thousands? Tens of thousands? Or more? What do you think? Wouldn't the aggrieved domainers love some financial restitution?

NP

I hope that one day, we domaineers too, have a governing organization that fights for our rights in unjust situations. Has anyone ever given this a thought? Or is there currently any central organization for domain owners which acts as an arbitrator and protects the rights of domain owners?

 

[NP41215]

i bet chinese traffic will becoming more valuable in the next couple of years

The key is the Great FireWall.

If and when they remove that, you'll get a huge, and permanent, growing flood of traffic. Right now, that huge traffic is bottled up, and simply cannot get out.

Otherwise, the traffic will indeed steadily increase, but that's very limited traffic from a very few sophisticated users who know how to use proxy servers -- always a tiny minority in any country.

Freedom of Internet access is far more important than freedom of speech or freedom of press.

Why? Because the right to know, read, see and hear what's available out there in the whole world -- the whole humanity, is far more valuable and important than one's also supremely important right to tell.

Truth will set you free, and knowledge is power, unlike mere illusion of truth, or false knowledge.
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I hope that one day, we domaineers too, have a governing organization that fights for our rights in unjust situations. Has anyone ever given this a thought? Or is there currently any central organization for domain owners which acts as an arbitrator and protects the rights of domain owners?

Well, you do have an option, right now and right away, if the wrong-doing business entity is, or becomes, a publicly traded company.

For example, you can trade its stock and make money off of it, if that will give you some satisfaction, financially and psychologically.

The aggressive ones will actually short the stock when it turns bearish, and profit from the price decline.

There are many other strategies and approaches, of course, including the use of options, even stock futures, and stock future options if available.
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[dreamgolf]

They say they are net12
Today is the 29 of Jun and still no payment from dopa !!!!!
Anyone who hasn't got the payment yet like me ?

 

[dreamgolf]

Got mine yesterday.