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Value of LLLL.com , LLLLL.com and 6n.com HELP PLEASE

Labeled as advice in General Domain Discussion, started by davin riera, Feb 22, 2016

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  1. davin riera

    davin riera Upgraded Member Gold Account

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    FIRST THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP

    I have just started selling domains. So yes I am a newbie. I have been doing my own research on the value of the different CHIPS domains as well as numeric domains. I think I have a handle on what they are going for and even some of the meanings. I have someone I pay to translate domains into the PinYin abbr. and they then give me a proposed value.. Where can I see recent internet wide sales prices

    how long will this Chinese rush last? will LLLL.coms go higher?

    I have seen various things from various places

    " in china the 5L's that end with"W" may be easier to sell.
    find some 5L.coms but !! no "aeiouv" and end with"W"
    this will worth $70~$80 in recent chinese market."


    "In the chinese market ,domains that start with "BJ SH GZ SZ" will be easier to sell."

    "You can buy some 4L.COM(with A or E)"

    "$280~$320 is a good price to buy.

    Why A or E?
    "A" stands for words "爱"(love)“安”(security)
    “E” stands for words “耳”(ear)“二”(two)

    they have their own meaning , but "U" "V" "O" have no meaning at all in china."


    AS FAR AS NUMBERS GO I SEE SOME PEOPLE ADVERTISE THE BENIFITS OF NOT HAVING 0 AND 4.. HOWEVER I HAVE READ DIFFERENT ABOUT 0

    MEANING OF NUMBERS IN CHINESE CULTURE



    LUCKY NUMBERS

    0. The Number 0 (零 or 檸, Pinyin:líng or níng) is a whole number and it is also an even number for the money ends with 0.

    2. The number 2 (二 or 两, Pinyin:èr or liăng) is most often considered a good number in Chinese culture. There is a Chinese saying: “good things come in pairs”. It is common to repeat characters in product brand names, such as double happiness, which even has its own character 囍, a combination of two 喜.

    3. The number 3 (三, Pinyin: sān) sounds similar to the character for “birth” (生, Pinyin: shēng), and is considered a lucky number.

    6. The number 6 represents wealth in Cantonese, this number is a homophone for (祿 Lok). 6 (六, Pinyin: liù) in Mandarin is pronounced the same as “liu” (溜, Pinyin: liù) and similar to “flow” (流, Pinyin: liú) and is therefore considered good for business.

    7. The number 7 (七, Pinyin: qī) symbolizes “togetherness”. It is a lucky number for relationships. It is also recognized as the luckiest number in the West, and is one of the rare numbers that is great in both Chinese and many Western cultures. It is a lucky number in Chinese culture, because it sounds alike to the Chinese word 起 (Pinyin: qǐ) meaning arise, and also 气 (Pinyin: qì) meaning life essence.

    8. The word for “eight” (八 Pinyin: bā) sounds similar to the word which means “prosper” or “wealth” (發 – short for “發財”, Pinyin: fā). There is also a visual resemblance between two digits, “88”, and 囍, the “shuāng xĭ” (“double joy”), a popular decorative design composed of two stylized characters 喜 (“xĭ” meaning “joy” or “happiness”). The number 8 is viewed as such an auspicious number that even being assigned a number with several eights is considered very lucky. To give you an idea about the obsession that Chinese have with the number 8, here are a few interesting facts:




      • Most airlines, including United Airlines, KLM, Air Canada, Cathay Pacific and Singapore airlines reserve their flight numbers starting with 8 for flights to Asian destinations, especially China and Korea.
      • A telephone number with all digits being eights was sold for USD $270,723 in Chengdu, China.
      • The opening ceremony of the Summer Olympics in Beijing began on 8/8/08 at 8 seconds and 8 minutes past 8 pm local time (UTC+08).
      • A man in Hangzhou offered to sell his license plate reading A88888 for RMB 1.12 million (roughly $164,000 USD).
      • The Petronas Twin Towers in Malaysia each have 88 Floors.
    Even the online poker and casino operator 888 Holdings (owner of 888.com) chose its brand carefully to attract Asian gamblers.

    9. The number 9 (九, Pinyin: jiŭ, jyutping: gau2), was historically associated with the Emperor of China, and the number was frequently used in matters relating to the Emperor. It also symbolizes harmony.

    UNLUCKY NUMBERS

    4. The number 4 has such a negative implication that Asians in general, and in particular Chinese, go as far to have a pathological fear called Tetraphobia. The reason is because the number 4 has the same sound of the word “death” (死 pinyin sǐ). Due to that, many numbered product lines skip the “4”. In East Asia, some buildings do not have a 4th floor. (Compare with the Western practice of some buildings not having a 13th floor because 13 is considered unlucky.). In Hong Kong, some high-rise residential buildings omit all floor numbers with “4”, e.g., 4, 14, 24, 34 and all 40–49 floors, in addition to not having a 13th floor.

    5. Five (五, pinyin: wǔ, jyutping: ng5) is associated with “not” (Mandarin 無, pinyin wú, and Cantonese 唔). If used for the negative connotation it can become good by using it with a negative. Also, any number of repeated 5s: “五” (wǔ) sounds like an onomatopoeia for crying, and is sometimes used in internet slang to express unhappiness.

    (Source: Wikipedia).



    WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR NUMERIC DOMAINS?



    The general guidelines for pricing a numeric domain can be summed up in 8 lucky rules:




      • The less digits, the higher value. This is an obvious rule – there are only hundred NN.com versus a thousand NNN.com and so on. Therefore 75.com is more valuable than 750.com.
      • Numeric domains ending in zero have usually a higher value. The more zero’s at the end, the higher the value (i.e. 800.com is more valuable than 810.com etc).
      • Conversely, numeric domains beginning with a zero have usually a lower value. A domain like 065.com would usually bear less value than 650.com.
      • Lower numbers are usually more valuable than high numbers. The reason for this is the Benford’s Law (link) which explains how low numbers are more frequent than higher numbers in a variety of data sets like street addresses, stock prices, population numbers, etc. Therefore each domain starting with 1 is usually more valuable than a domain starting with 2; each domain starting with 2 will have a higher value than a domain starting with 3 and so on.
      • Numbers that appear in a sequence are usually more valuable than numbers with no specific order. For example 123.com is more valuable than 132.com or 231.com.
      • Pairs are considered lucky and therefore more valuable, i.e. 2233.com is more valuable than 2273.com or 3223.com
      • Any numeric domain containing a 8 has a higher value. The more 8s in the domain, the higher the value: 888.com > 788.com > 718.com > 712.com.
      • Domains containing a 4 have a lower value. Any 4 decreases the value of the domain up to 50-70% less than a similar domain without a 4 (eg. 672.com vs 674.com).




     
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  2. NAMEFISH

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    Nice information I love seeing this kind of post, I have learned few things.
    Thanks,
     
  3. davin riera

    davin riera Upgraded Member Gold Account

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    Great. I appreciate that
     
  4. davin riera

    davin riera Upgraded Member Gold Account

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    CCCC .COMs with no vowels (A, E, I, O, U) or V are generally the most valuable in China.

    But ‘Z’ is really welcome here in China, because “ZhongGuo” is China in Chinese PinYin.
    And Chinese like “Middle” very much, “Zhong” means “middle” in Chinese PinYin. Many many Chinse company name has “Zhong”…

    The other most popular letter might be X, Y, S, C, …

    We Chinese like to divide the 4L into two parts, the first two letters and the last two letters.
    If the first two is Big city of China, it will be very welcome, Such as: BJ(BeiJing), SH(ShangHai), GD(GuangDong)…
    If the last two letters is some kind of business, such as: LC(LiCai, finance), ZX(online), KJ(Tech), SJ(Data), which would be very welcome.

    And also “CN” is very popular in China so my ID is DotCN

    No Chinese “words(PinYin)” starts from U, V, O and I, but there ARE some words start from A & E, so A, E is not very bad for Chinese market.
     
  5. biggie

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    how many names have you sold?
     
  6. davin riera

    davin riera Upgraded Member Gold Account

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    only a couple..
     
  7. davin riera

    davin riera Upgraded Member Gold Account

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    as I said I am new. less than 50 total.. jsut trying to learn and get what more experienced buyers think of this stuff I posted. am I on the right track with meanings and values.. I mean its pretty clear at the moment on the LLLL.com but I was just wondering about 6n.com

    I am willing to spend money on the LLLL but dropping 1800-2500 with little experience is tough.. I was wondering how high people think they may go? as well as 6n.com why do people say no 0 but 0 isnt abad number in china? I see some 6n with 5 and 0 selling for around $40.. just trying to pick people brain sir.
     
  8. biggie

    biggie GreenFriendly.com VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    the chip sky is falling and the ceiling has stopped rising

    if you check domains wanted threads, the budget for chinesepremium LLLL.com stops around $2000

    very few are willing pay more than $2,500 and only a select number are selling above $3,500


    if you haven't got in yet, then buying now means waiting for roi margin to increase.

    imo....
     
  9. davin riera

    davin riera Upgraded Member Gold Account

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    great thank you!!!! Yes that is exactly the way I was seeing it. I only started 4 months ago and didnt figure it out in time. I have a friend in china who gives me great translations. so I am trying to hit that homerun with a few that I may pick up less than 1900. I am at the same time looking to grab some non chips LLLL cheap and turn them. Those with an a & e seem to be going for 275-400 .. I am willing to hold on to the CHIPS for a better ROI.. but I would rather not.

    what about 6n.com ?
     
  10. .NJ

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    If your new to the industry I would stay far away from any "chips". Not a good investment at this point.

    Stick to the basics and what has proven to hold value over time....
     

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