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I just acquired a domain in GD closeout and want to transfer it out immediately to Epik but there is a 60-day lock. Is there any way to get around it?
I just acquired a domain in GD closeout and want to transfer it out immediately to Epik but there is a 60-day lock. Is there any way to get around it?
You can email [email protected] and explain how you bought it and that you were not given the option to opt out of the lock if that is true and they will review it.I just acquired a domain in GD closeout and want to transfer it out immediately to Epik but there is a 60-day lock. Is there any way to get around it?
I usually don't read the details. At the check-out page when buying a Closeout domain, is there any option to opt out of the lock? Thanks.You can email [email protected] and explain how you bought it and that you were not given the option to opt out of the lock if that is true and they will review it.
Thanks. Now I know the rest of the story. No wonder I did not get a chance to opt out.@Joe Styler Whenever a domain is bought at Godaddy, the aftermarket team transfers the domain to the buyer without waiving the 60 day lock so the owner has no choice but stay. When I emailed Review60 about a domain I bought at Godaddy auctions and had an imposed lock after Godaddy pushed it into my account they said- the domain "was opted into a 60-day lock during a registrant change. This lock was placed by ICANN and we are unable to remove it.".
It is not that easy unfortunately. We have a legal team and a compliance team and there is policy that we develop based on feedback from those teams. We can do what you are suggesting about the lock, but to do so we would have to change the terms people agree to (it has been a year or two since I was involved in the policy conversations with the legal teams so I am going from memory here and I may be a bit off) The best of my recollection was we had to change the terms to make the domain buyer and expired domain owner agree to use GoDaddy as more or less a designated agent acting on their behalf with power of attorney in changing the domain info in order to make it work. This opens up a myriad of other concerns. In the end we decided to move it with the lock but you can ask to be opted out via that email and they will look at it.@Joe Styler Whenever a domain is bought at Godaddy, the aftermarket team transfers the domain to the buyer without waiving the 60 day lock so the owner has no choice but stay. When I emailed Review60 about a domain I bought at Godaddy auctions and had an imposed lock after Godaddy pushed it into my account they said- the domain "was opted into a 60-day lock during a registrant change. This lock was placed by ICANN and we are unable to remove it.".
@Kassey Lee's domain was bought at closeouts so Godaddy as a default let it enter the account with an imposed lock. Referring people to Review60 when Godaddy is the one that's forcing these locks just to have Review60 give their automatic response that ICANN enforces it is quite ridiculous. You guys have an option to waive the lock when the domain enters the account- so stop imposing it automatically and then send people to review60 whose only answer is that it can't be unlocked. Godaddy can't create a problem and then send the person to another department that just shrugs and says it's somebody else's fault and nothing can be done about it. That's Kafkaesque and unfair.
There was a change to this one or two years ago .. not sure of the details (I seem to recall @Rob Monster referring to once as Epik tinkered with their locking options last year .. unfortunately I forget the details).I undertand that the lock for .com is not mandatory
Also .. while I do complain about GoDaddy a lot (sorry @Joe Styler and @Paul Nicks .. lol) , it's important to give them a break here .. you all need to note that the 60 day lock is a VERY IMPORTANT security protocol that reduces chances of domain theft significantly.
That being said .. if GoDaddy claims they have the right to take away ownership of an expired domain from the original owner, then I don't see it as being a stretch that they remove the lock from 60 day domains. Unless in fact they aren't 100% about the legal right of selling someone else's expired domain and keep the lock in the rare case where this who system is called into question.
There also are legal issues here as GoDaddy and ALL other registrars (I don't want to single out GoDaddy here) who resell expired domains, are going around the spirit of the registration rules. Way back at the dawn of the internet (or at least a very long time ago), the registrar expiration period was intended as a safeguard to allow the domain owner a buffer to keep/renew their domain in case it expired. After that the REGISTRY BLOCKOUT (the next ~35 days before Verisign deletes/drops the domain) was in place SPECIFICALLY so a different entity would NOT procure the domain and lead to the potential assumption of it being the owned by the same owner (very important for secure emails to get bounced for a blackout period).
So in effect the whole system/process never intended for registrars to claim/take/steal the original owner's domains to resell at the registrar's profit. This is actually something I continuously question both the legality (I'm assuming GD's lawyers say it's ok .. lol) and morality of. That being said .. I can't really complain because the vast majority of my acquisitions (and profit) come from expired domains at auction or closeout .. lol.
I'm actually curious as to how this reselling of expired inventory came to be and how it was ever allowed in the first place.
It's why I happy to see the development of some registrars potentially starting to automatically give the profits of expired domains back to the theoretical original owner.
you all need to note that the 60 day lock is a VERY IMPORTANT security protocol that reduces chances of domain theft significantly.
I disliked for the first two. "security my a--" if anything, it's less secure, forgot about and expires? Why Not like stocks, which sell millions instantly, only require password?
Domains should be too. They hide "60 day ICANN " same policy used by antiquated; Network Solutions, LCN, eNom.
Godaddy, isnt progress, this backwards..? hate 60 day, no one except u aforementioned dinosaurs
In my case, I wasn't referring to an expired domain. I bought a domain from a seller. Why do I need to be stuck for 60 days when there's an option to waive the lock? That's especially the case if both the buyer and seller are known to Godaddy. BTW in Godaddy's current system, in two different transactions- even when I was dealing with a seller who asked to opt out of the lock and I also requested to opt out- the domains still got locked for 60 days. So I don't have a clue what Godaddy is doing with the lock but the whole system is currently problematic.
Very well said.In the case of expired domains I do agree that it makes ZERO sense to have the lock, because in theory the domain WAS SOLD BY GODADDY ... GoDaddy receives 100% of the funds, so that would mean the legal owner of the domain (whether moral or not) was GoDaddy at the moment of sale .. and as such, as the domain owner they would have the right to waive the lock.
I think you guys missed what I said about our legal and policy teams. Technically speaking it is possible but the ICANN policy team and legal team do not like us going this route as it has other implications.Very well said.