They took it!

[Slacks]

Ahh, I'm mad. Yesterday I found ****** was open, which matched my site perfectly. But I didn't have any money to pay to register it. Anyways, long story short, I got the money, getting ready to register and it was taken. They registered it today damnit..

Not a good day. It was the only good domain I have found.

:td:

 

[paxton]

You've been "NameKinged" ! It's pretty well known now that NameKing is monitoring available domain searches. If you lookup a domain at one of the places from which they have access to data (such as CNet's Domain Search page) and that domain is available, then they will register the domain after a short period of time.

It's a terrible practice, but nobody is stopping the sites that sell this data.

What they do now is either sell the domain to the person who initially did the search query on it's availablity (a person like you) or they test it for 5 days to see if it is worth holding onto for traffic. If they sell it to you, it will be for a lot more than reg fee. So I wouldn't try to contact them. It might be available in a few days if they are actually testing the domain for traffic. If so, and the domain gets no traffic, they will delete the registration and you can hand reg it at that point.

So to make sure they (or any manelovant folks) do not see this and take any further action, I would edit your first post to remove the domain in question.

Good Luck!

 

[Dave_Z]

I walk into a bookstore, look through the selections, and found one that took
my fancy. But I find, to my chagrin, I didn't bring enough money with me.

So I put the book down, hop to the nearest automated teller machine, and do
get some needed dough. When I get back, the book's gone.

I ask the saleslady, "Hey lady, someone took this book I really liked. Is there
any other copy?"

The saleslady shakes her head and answers, "Sorry, we're all out of it."

Do I have a legitimate right to make a fuss about it? Unless I want to make an
ass of myself (which I don't), no.

Next time, be sure to be ready to pay for it.

 

[bbakes25]

That's why I never search for a domain name unless I have the funds loaded into my account. And never search for one and then not register it until later. I may search many names, and then pick one within a couple minutes and grab it so it never happens to me. But sorry to hear it happen to you.

 

[paxton]

I walk into a bookstore, look through the selections, and found one that took
my fancy. But I find, to my chagrin, I didn't bring enough money with me.

So I put the book down, hop to the nearest automated teller machine, and do
get some needed dough. When I get back, the book's gone.

I ask the saleslady, "Hey lady, someone took this book I really liked. Is there
any other copy?"

The saleslady shakes her head and answers, "Sorry, we're all out of it."

Do I have a legitimate right to make a fuss about it? Unless I want to make an
ass of myself (which I don't), no.

Next time, be sure to be ready to pay for it.

That's a nice example. But it doesn't address the issue of search queries being exploited by 3rd parties.

To be accurate, your story needs to involve a sneaky individual spying on you as you browse through the bookstore. This snoop would monitor what you wanted to buy and would buy the item (while you went to the ATM) solely based on the fact that you were interested in it. Next, they would either try to sell the book to you at a huge markup or they would return it to the vendor a few days later for a full refund.

One last thing your story would need to apply to this situation: the bookstore would have to be an Internet website that you accessed from the perceived privacy of your own home.

From this altered example, does the person now have a legitimate right to make a fuss about it?

 

[Slacks]

Haha, well I'm new at this. Thanks alot for your input. I'm what you call a domain "Newbie". Anyways thanks again.

 

[.X.]

plain and simple..for the most part...it is a dog eat dog industry...i have had several names regged after i checked them for availability at a few different registers....over all..ethics are a low standard in the domain name industry,It seems as those who do use good ethics come out on top much better than those who don't though....atleast in the long run any way.

 

[geek]

That's a nice example. But it doesn't address the issue of search queries being exploited by 3rd parties.

To be accurate, your story needs to involve a sneaky individual spying on you as you browse through the bookstore. This snoop would monitor what you wanted to buy and would buy the item (while you went to the ATM) solely based on the fact that you were interested in it. Next, they would either try to sell the book to you at a huge markup or they would return it to the vendor a few days later for a full refund.

One last thing your story would need to apply to this situation: the bookstore would have to be an Internet website that you accessed from the perceived privacy of your own home.

From this altered example, does the person now have a legitimate right to make a fuss about it?

LOL paxton you totally pwned dave with your reply...in this case im standing on your side. You can read my same story here:
http://www.namepros.com/legal-issues-and-disputes/213144-a-company-steal-my-domains.html
I believe that this kinda domain kiting will only happen more and more often. The only thing we can do is go to a forum and vent out our frustration. Nowhere is safe...

 

[Dave_Z]

That's a nice example. But it doesn't address the issue of search queries being exploited by 3rd parties.

To be accurate, your story needs to involve a sneaky individual spying on you as you browse through the bookstore. This snoop would monitor what you wanted to buy and would buy the item (while you went to the ATM) solely based on the fact that you were interested in it. Next, they would either try to sell the book to you at a huge markup or they would return it to the vendor a few days later for a full refund.

One last thing your story would need to apply to this situation: the bookstore would have to be an Internet website that you accessed from the perceived privacy of your own home.

From this altered example, does the person now have a legitimate right to make a fuss about it?

That's okay. But I said legitimate right.

Does the OP really have one? Maybe, maybe not, it's open for discussion.

And I believe Jberryhill's 2nd post in another thread discussing this presented
another way to possibly look at it:

http://www.namepros.com/legal-issues-and-disputes/185087-domibot-spying-on-whois-searches.html

Incidentally, someone in another forum asked whether it's illegal or immoral to
gather search data and use it as s/he saw fit. Majority answered it's ok, with
one reservation: it depends on their intent.

When I asked how they felt about the so-called "domain tasting" occuring, no
one's currently answered as of this post.

ethics are a low standard in the domain name industry

Whose standard?

The only thing we can do is go to a forum and vent out our frustration.

Not quite. If you don't look up the domain name on your browser and talk to
the current registrant about it, then there's a chance the domain name might
become available within 120 hours from its initial creation date.

Mark that date and time in your calendar and be ready to "swipe" it. And make
sure you're ready to pay for it on the spot.

 

[ekal]

Check out this great script by Shorty:

http://www.namepros.com/domain-name...g-my-domain-research.html?highlight=whois.php

 

[Halobitt]

That's a nice example. But it doesn't address the issue of search queries being exploited by 3rd parties.

To be accurate, your story needs to involve a sneaky individual spying on you as you browse through the bookstore. This snoop would monitor what you wanted to buy and would buy the item (while you went to the ATM) solely based on the fact that you were interested in it. Next, they would either try to sell the book to you at a huge markup or they would return it to the vendor a few days later for a full refund.

One last thing your story would need to apply to this situation: the bookstore would have to be an Internet website that you accessed from the perceived privacy of your own home.

From this altered example, does the person now have a legitimate right to make a fuss about it?

In agreement here Paxton.
The bookstore example would also only fit if it was a rare bookstore, that stocked
one-off copies.

 

[Michelle]

I learnt long ago that when I search and find a name I want to reg, I must have the money there to do it there and then.....

But sorry you missed out

 

[dnb8]

use whois.sc I never had problem like this with them,
but you must also remember that you are not only one who is searching for domains and if You found good name available this is a big chance that another domainer will find it too

 

[Slacks]

Yeah I realize that. I was searching for possible good domains and creating a small list of available names.

 

[GoDesign]

Thats a really sneaky thing they're doing.Here's some more info about

domain hi-jacking .

 

[TLDnetworks]

But I didn't have any money to pay to register it.

You don't have $7.00? especially for a name that "which matched my site perfectly"?

 

[kingster]

i heard *ahem* godaddy *cough* would do these things too...

 

[Dave_Z]

While I consider this topic "resolved", there was something I forgot to ask the
OP: who are listed as the registrant and the registrar?

Thing is, we'd like to believe someone did something sneaky here. But without
further details (and especially proof), we can only speculate and form our own
otherwise non-authoritative opinions.

Anyway, Slacks, hopefully that name will become available by then. Make sure
you're all ready for it.

 

[paxton]

While I consider this topic "resolved", there was something I forgot to ask the
OP: who are listed as the registrant and the registrar?

Thing is, we'd like to believe someone did something sneaky here. But without
further details (and especially proof), we can only speculate and form our own
otherwise non-authoritative opinions.

Anyway, Slacks, hopefully that name will become available by then. Make sure
you're all ready for it.

Dave,

My comments were made AFTER I did a whois to see that it was regged at NameKing using one of the aliases previously reported on other message boards concerning their practice of using purchased domain query data for their own "tasting."

I advised the original poster to remove the name in order to protect his chances of securing it should the domain be deleted later in the week as expected. Perhaps the original poster can PM you the name or he can share it after he is able to register it.

And just to clarify, my beef isn;t with the buyers of search queries... but primarily with the sellers of such data.

Also, thanks for the link above to the previous discussion involving John. A great read.

Regards,

Paxton

 

[h4nh4n]

this always happened to me, the next day when I am free to register any domain that I researched before already gone....