The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[hullswingerscom]

The statement above is true....content is king....not keywords
i have seen some dot tv site full of content, video blog god knows what and not get a good rank.

 

[Ms Domainer]

The statement above is true....content is king....not keywords

I'm certainly not trying to burst any bubbles. I am also fairly highly invested in a speculative, newer domain with restrictions (mobi).

I also have experience with developed sites in said restricted domain. That's what makes me $$$. I can divulge what most suspect...the more content, the higher the indexing. My bare bones "micro sites" index....terribly low. My deeper sites, loaded with actual content, fair much better. Google doesn't like them as well as Yahoo (I have many first page results in Yahoo). I have achieved first page # 1 on occasion, but it doesn't stay there.

Knowing the higher restrictions associated with .tel (as far as lack of true content / templated sites) points me to believe that .tel sites will not be able to climb the indexing ladder very high. I hope I'm wrong. I always like to see the underdog win. I do wish you all well. I'm sitting this one out though...

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Kukgle has used his keyword area to write actual content; it may not be a lot, but it's content (as opposed to keywords separated by commas).

Also, we do not yet know how the search engines will treat .tel; their algorithms may be different for this specialized TLD.

Time will .tel, though.



Thanks for the thumbs up; you're a

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[aliencafe]

StefanB thanks for posting your domains, and posting on the forum. It has brought some new energy into the discussion.

I'm am also not a domainer and very new to Namepros as well.

Along the lines of doctors and medicine, I have pharmacist.tel, gynecologist.tel, psychiatrist.tel, pills.tel, medications.tel, obstetrician.tel, and proctologist.tel

 

[steveteva]

Stefan,
Great respond to some members here. I think you might have made the right choice to invest on .tel but now it depends on quality of generic you own to tell you if it worth or not.
I do remember a story I've heard from a guy who bought in the early days (1990-1991) Geo domains for $10 000 + each and everyone says CRAZY, will never get your ROI, this guy did not listen to people but years after development of his website he have been sucessful and the city sued him to get the domain name (he win) and guess what, I think he makes $50000/year now and it worth $$$$$$

So maybe you have some gem in your portfolio and could get your ROI in the future ?

I am not familiar with the domain culture .... office because you will drive the people in my office crazy....
Good luck to everybody,
Stefan

 

[phase111]

my sony laptop has gone faulty..still under warranty i called sony..

they ask for my email address and home phone number..i just gave them my dot tel.

this has all my details work,home...and were i am now......

i think dot tel will work well with my dot tv sites.

Yet another example of long awkward unmemorable telephone numbers being replaced by more easily memorable words as we move into the mobile realm- it's not that hard to predict how things will develop to make our complicated lives easier. Even john1234.tel is easier to remember than 4356273884 for example.

 

[aliencafe]

How do you guys think the Telpages.com will look feel etc?

I wonder how it will list Geo's or how you will find certain things?

I have read the telnic page on it, but i still wonder what it will look like?

 

[Shahid7]

not sure about that aliencafe but i got my .tel site kinda lined up. you can have a look

www.autoparts.tel
www.immigrating.tel
www.traveling.tel
www.dietitian.tel
www.ship.tel
www.finances.tel
www.aids.tel
www.decoration.tel
www.automobiles.tel

 

[aliencafe]

wow automobiles.tel must be valuable? and traveling.tel?

looks like a good valuable collection.

Shahid on Traveling.tel change the word "form" to "from" constructive criticism.

Feel free to judge my sites as well-

 

[Shahid7]

wow automobiles.tel must be valuable? and traveling.tel?

looks like a good valuable collection.

Shahid on Traveling.tel change the word "form" to "from" constructive criticism.

Feel free to judge my sites as well-

Thanks aliencafe will just fix that now, it was typing mistake since i was just trying to layout all the sites at once in hurry.

not sure of its value now but i think it will go far as i have autopart.tel so they both go along with each other then same with traveling.tel and immigrating.tel so looking for the best for it.

 

[Kate]

Knowing the higher restrictions associated with .tel (as far as lack of true content / templated sites) points me to believe that .tel sites will not be able to climb the indexing ladder very high.

Totally agree. SEO is a web concept anyway. I'm even surprised SEO is still mentioned within the context of .tel development.

I do remember a story I've heard from a guy who bought in the early days (1990-1991) Geo domains for $10 000 + each and everyone says CRAZY, will never get your ROI, this guy did not listen to people but years after development of his website he have been sucessful and the city sued him to get the domain name (he win) and guess what, I think he makes $50000/year now and it worth $$$$$$

The landscape is pretty much different today. We have a better idea of what can work and what won't. I don't think we will ever see another domain goldrush comparable to the dotcom boom of the 1990s.
I have little faith in new extensions as a rule, most have failed for good reasons, those reasons must be analyzed and... my sig says it all

 

[aliencafe]

dotster article

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/...d=news_view&newsId=20090320005714&newsLang=en


Those in New York and interested in what has been touted as “the biggest innovation in top level domains (TLD) since .com” are invited to CyberCafe on West 49th Street in New York, NY, from 5 p.m. to 7 p.m. EDT where Telnic, the registry operator for .tel, is welcoming the digital nomad home to their one address for life on the Web. The catered event will feature a chance to learn more about .tel and to register your own .tel domain onsite, with Dotster giving away 100 free .tel addresses.

 

[phase111]

Jesus.


Ouch.

Please. Please study the short history of domaining. Pretty much every new extension has been hyped as revolutionary but in the end most never took off.

I don't want to rain on your parade but I do hope you can afford to write this 70K loss off as a business expense.

Welcome to NP

Classic! Lover your sense of humour (YHO)

 

[onspec]

Now This is a Novel way to Price .Tels

Got an email from our friends over at Sibername offering the following .Tel pricing. It reads in part:

Pricing
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There will be 2 time-frame and 2 different pricing on that day;

11:00AM EST - 12:00 PM: $50 CAD for the first year and $14.95 for the renewals.

After 12:00 PM EST: $14.95 CAD per year.


I guess there's more than one way to skin a cat...

I'll stick with my Cartel.

Cheers,

 

[ginggang]

I am not familiar with the domain culture and I have yet to figure out how many domains i have- I can give you precise numbers and names- I also don't have that much money and I don't regret if I lose some of it
- at least I tried to do something that I foundsomewhat meaningful.It
seemed like a good idea at the time and I still think that it is a good idea.
I don't know what this means but I would like to remain a private person, meaning that I have no interest to be included in stories and make too much of a circus around this- I make an honest living and probably it was a bad idea to discuss on a forum these matters that should probably be private- there is a fine line between a visionary and a less inspired person in this story (notice that I am being very kind to myself)- so I will try to keep it mostly private for now.
There are a few domain names that I can recall: mds.tel, docs.tel, orchids.tel, jeans.tel, denim.tel, vaccines.tel, billing.tel, testing.tel, teas.tel, beverages.tel, interpret.tel, learnenglish.tel, americas.tel, the top 7 cities in a European country, etc and for those who doubt my identity Dermatology.tel, etc probably if you guys are so great at dealing with computers there should be a way to know how to figure all 200 names out, since I registered only about a third of them privately, and even those had my name on them in the WhoIs on telnic site until 2 days ago- probably telhosting messed up. I am also not even mentioning the domains in my own field that I actually plan to develop, but what I am hoping to do is to add some value and some substance to these directories in my field whenever I find the time, and maybe that wil be of some value to everybody.
Note that I have a fairly basic .com website and that I don't even have the time to fix mds.tel- I was just playing with a few .tel sites and they appear very easy to use- idiot proof. I am also planning to sell some of my generic domains maybe to get additional funds to develop the ones that I am interested in. I bought most of them between Feb 4th and yesterday- I think I found out on Feb 4 about .tel from my telhosting co (I won't mention it so that you don't think that I am somehow promoting that company too)
Now if you can have an alliance of top generics and geo that have some substance added to them I don't think that any directory, mobile or internet company can compete with it.
The fact that I am a real person doesn't mean that it is a good idea to invest in .tel Many of the people I know lost significantly more money in stocks, a more traditional and wiser approach I guess.... Send e-mails on [email protected] if you want, but don't call my office because you will drive the people in my office crazy....
Good luck to everybody,
Stefan

Stefan,
I apprieciate you posting this follow up. I also apologise for doubting your initial post. It read like a press releases trumpeting the .tel extension.

Having said that I just don't see the the vindication in your post when matched against the some of he registrations that you have made. Some are truely bizzare. You put forward a completely rational point of view on how the .tel can assist the end consumer who is not getting value for money on conventional "yellow Pages" and "Google" advertising and you register orchids and teas . tel which are so niche I cannot see how on earth that could be marketed to a client/ end user or as an investment as a .tel

The names I found you had registered like Pediatric.tel and Cosmeticdermatology.tel would probably have not been at all until general realease. I did'nt look any futher as my aim was to see if you were register domains. My guess is you wasted a lot of money on pre-reg that you could have picked up later.

Comparing domain investing to stocks is a very bad analogy. Would you invest in a company who has no trading history and goes high IPO on day 1 ?

I see a lot of good ideas and some potential in other ideas on this thread, Ms Domainer in particular , but to be honest coming on a board as a novice domainer and saying you dropped 70K on domains on your first post is bound to draw flak. I might be the only one to come and say it bluntly but I stand by comments.

I could have ridiculed you by posting domains you registed but my intention was not to ridicule you but to see If I could understand what your stratergy was on marketing the domains to end users.

 

[stefanb]

StefanB thanks for posting your domains, and posting on the forum. It has brought some new energy into the discussion.

I'm am also not a domainer and very new to Namepros as well.

Along the lines of doctors and medicine, I have pharmacist.tel, gynecologist.tel, psychiatrist.tel, pills.tel, medications.tel, obstetrician.tel, and proctologist.tel

Thanks for your comments alien cafe. Similar to your domains I have: gynecologists.tel, obstetrics.tel, dermatologist.tel (and all variations on the subject), plasticsurgeons.tel, ent.tel, otolaryngology.tel, eyesurgeon.tel, eyesurgeons.tel, neurologist.tel, gastroenterology.tel, gastroenterologist.tel, hematology.tel, oncology.tel, nephrology.tel. doctorsearch.tel, healthsearch.tel, localhealth.tel, localsearch.tel, loca.tel, flu.tel, pediatric.tel, lasers.tel, medspa.tel, and a billion others it feels like- hopefully this weekend I will start working on some.

not sure about that aliencafe but i got my .tel site kinda lined up. you can have a look

www.autoparts.tel
www.immigrating.tel
www.traveling.tel
www.dietitian.tel
www.ship.tel
www.finances.tel
www.aids.tel
www.decoration.tel
www.automobiles.tel

Hi Shahid- great to hear from you. Very similar to your domains or somewhat related I have only: dieting.tel, hybridcars.tel, alarms.tel, decorations.tel, dieting.tel, organic.tel and FOD.tel (for films on demand or food on demand)

 

[kukgle]

Thank guys, but we still cannot control the sequential of information in keyword areas.

You may refresh newyork.american.tel and see that the information is pop up randomly.In control panel, you cannot arrange an information here as well.

BTW, I just access my site via mobile (Android G1). It's already switch to mobile version .. clean info and extremely FAST. Nice move Telnics

 

[stefanb]

No need to apologise ginggang- I completely understand the circumstances. You are very right in most of the things that you mentioned. Maybe I am overly enthusiastic about the .tel domain, but only future will tell if my enthusiasm was appropriate or not. I find both subjects orchids.tel and teas.tel fascinating and they are very, very promising things to sell (good for the body and the soul), so I would register them regardless of any other considerations for 375/ .tel domain. There was not much marketing strategy behind the choices of my domains- for some subjects I did check alexa and google to see how popular certain words or topics were. For some some domains I know the people who can use them and the type of marketing budgets that they have- and there is no ridicule there- people have to sell whatever they sell to make an honest living, whether it is sinks, tshirts, calendars or anything else that you might have felt like ridiculing me for . And that is briefly how I chose many domains. I appreciate your honesty in posting exactly what you felt regarding my choices for domains though, and clearly I can learn more about buying domains in the future....

Stefan,
I apprieciate you posting this follow up. I also apologise for doubting your initial post. It read like a press releases trumpeting the .tel extension.

Having said that I just don't see the the vindication in your post when matched against the some of he registrations that you have made. Some are truely bizzare. You put forward a completely rational point of view on how the .tel can assist the end consumer who is not getting value for money on conventional "yellow Pages" and "Google" advertising and you register orchids and teas . tel which are so niche I cannot see how on earth that could be marketed to a client/ end user or as an investment as a .tel

The names I found you had registered like Pediatric.tel and Cosmeticdermatology.tel would probably have not been at all until general realease. I did'nt look any futher as my aim was to see if you were register domains. My guess is you wasted a lot of money on pre-reg that you could have picked up later.

Comparing domain investing to stocks is a very bad analogy. Would you invest in a company who has no trading history and goes high IPO on day 1 ?

I see a lot of good ideas and some potential in other ideas on this thread, Ms Domainer in particular , but to be honest coming on a board as a novice domainer and saying you dropped 70K on domains on your first post is bound to draw flak. I might be the only one to come and say it bluntly but I stand by comments.

I could have ridiculed you by posting domains you registed but my intention was not to ridicule you but to see If I could understand what your stratergy was on marketing the domains to end users.

 

[Ms Domainer]

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You're a good sport, stefanb.

This can be a difficult thread at times, but it's worth listening to both pro and con aspects of .tel.

Your physician .tels have great potential, and Geos are almost always desireable, particularly in this TLD. Location, Location, Location.

I'll soon be announcing a free tel aftermarket site (and I'm sure there will be others as well), so you will have an opportunity to sell some of them.




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[aliencafe]

Stefan - good mix of domains.

I also have Hanoi.tel Hochiminh.tel Waikiki.tel and Lisbon.tel

Gingang I would be interested in what you thought of my full list of doctors geos and others-

 

[MicroGuy]

The comments in this thread and the .PRO thread have recently become eerily similar. Just a random observation.