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For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?
 
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virtualhunter said:
Quick question for you guys:
What will be the different ways to monitor Traffic on a Dot TEL domain?
Thanks.

I've asked Telnic about obtaining logs for hits through the web interface and they've shown some interest in finding a solution to this. However, bear in mind that the majority of accesses will be from non-web based applications and services, and it's just not practical to measure these (DNS reads).

At the end of the day all that really matters is measuring clicks/calls through proxies. Tip: voip.ms looks like it has great pricing and service availability.

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Only just saw this writeup from last December, but I think this metaphor nails it:

Its as if we’re at the stage where we’re learning that to perform certain important acts the signal doesn’t have to go all the way to the brain and back but can operate by way of the much faster reflexes that only touch the spinal cord.
Use the force, young Telwalker!
 
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lexisdomains said:
Great point onlinelife. As it appears, however, current Google algorithm seems to favor .TEL with more search engine visibility and less competition.

Here were my results on my server:

Cheap Hotels
- 36,300,000 results / about 281 advertisers / Bad- this means lots of competion.

Cheap.Hotels.com - 76,000,000 results / about 466 advertisers / Bad - "Lots of competition.

Cheap.Hotels.tel - 3,193,000 results / only about 10 advertisers / Great "no competition"
This scenario is good for our clients.

Here's another way to look at it

"Cheap hotels" is searched 837,777 per month
"Cheap hotels com" is searched virtually 0 month
"cheap hotels tel" is searched 0 per month
 
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virtualhunter said:
Quick question for you guys:
What will be the different ways to monitor Traffic on a Dot TEL domain?
Thanks.
Unfortunately, you will have no ability to measure or analyze traffic on your .TEL website until the registry gods decide you really need it.
 
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plaggypig said:
I've asked Telnic about obtaining logs for hits through the web interface and they've shown some interest in finding a solution to this. However, bear in mind that the majority of accesses will be from non-web based applications and services, and it's just not practical to measure these (DNS reads).

At the end of the day all that really matters is measuring clicks/calls through proxies. Tip: voip.ms looks like it has great pricing and service availability.

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Only just saw this writeup from last December, but I think this metaphor nails it:


Use the force, young Telwalker!

PlaggyPig, I'm not sure how you will use the VoIP.ms with Dot TELs.
Can you explain the traffic monitoring here? Thanks.
 
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view of SEO Analytics for .TEL

mrdomainman said:
Here's another way to look at it

"Cheap hotels" is searched 837,777 per month
"Cheap hotels com" is searched virtually 0 month
"cheap hotels tel" is searched 0 per month

Good point mr. domainman.

However, since you will be optimizing for keyword phrase only [cheap hotels], filtering search results per extension [.tel, com] should not matter. In retrospect, you must examine the raw data for the keyword phrase and use off-page optimization /aka (web 2.0 optimization services) to add SEO value to your .TEL.


Any thoughts,
LexisDomains

MicroGuy said:
Unfortunately, you will have no ability to measure or analyze traffic on your .TEL website until the registry gods decide you really need it.


STAFF EDIT - Advertising
 
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MicroGuy said:
Unfortunately, you will have no ability to measure or analyze traffic on your .TEL website until the registry gods decide you really need it.

Well as I said there seems to be a definite interest in exposing logs from the TelHosting software, but it's really only going to be a sample of the "real" traffic. Unfortunately with the DNS network we have there's no way to propagate statistics back up to the top. Client software could log usage data and make that available (perhaps they could even sell it to .tel owners).

It's somewhat beside the point anyway - all me and my advertisers really care about is measuring clicks/calls, and that is easily done.

virtualhunter said:
PlaggyPig, I'm not sure how you will use the VoIP.ms with Dot TELs.
Can you explain the traffic monitoring here? Thanks.

Say I'm building a directory of plumbers. I allow them to list their entries in my directory for free, so there's absolutely no cost barrier, but I want to charge them for higher rankings inside the directory, or placements in more premium areas of the directory, then the best way would be to do it on a CPC basis. To measure this, one must use a proxy between the directory and the terminating channel, for example;

Joe The Plumber's phone number is 1234-111-111, but he's paid for some kind of premium service inside the directory, so actually his number gets listed publicly as 1234-222-222, which is a virtual number (provided by voip.ms or a competing provider) that simply redirects to 1234-111-111. Each call to the virtual number gets logged, which Joe then gets invoiced for. One might also charge Joe for making this virtual number a toll-free 800. He only pays for sales leads that the directory sends his way.

Or maybe, since we live in such a crazy ass world, Joe The Plumber has his own little media empire, and his listing is a premium $5/min phone line that his fans can use to call him up and leave insane rambling messages. We do a revenue sharing deal. Beautiful.
 
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A problem with Voip quality

plaggypig said:
Well as I said there seems to be a definite interest in exposing logs from the TelHosting software, but it's really only going to be a sample of the "real" traffic. Unfortunately with the DNS network we have there's no way to propagate statistics back up to the top. Client software could log usage data and make that available (perhaps they could even sell it to .tel owners).

It's somewhat beside the point anyway - all me and my advertisers really care about is measuring clicks/calls, and that is easily done.



Say I'm building a directory of plumbers. I allow them to list their entries in my directory for free, so there's absolutely no cost barrier, but I want to charge them for higher rankings inside the directory, or placements in more premium areas of the directory, then the best way would be to do it on a CPC basis. To measure this, one must use a proxy between the directory and the terminating channel, for example;

Joe The Plumber's phone number is 1234-111-111, but he's paid for some kind of premium service inside the directory, so actually his number gets listed publicly as 1234-222-222, which is a virtual number (provided by voip.ms or a competing provider) that simply redirects to 1234-111-111. Each call to the virtual number gets logged, which Joe then gets invoiced for. One might also charge Joe for making this virtual number a toll-free 800. He only pays for sales leads that the directory sends his way.

Or maybe, since we live in such a crazy ass world, Joe The Plumber has his own little media empire, and his listing is a premium $5/min phone line that his fans can use to call him up and leave insane rambling messages. We do a revenue sharing deal. Beautiful.

Beautiful solution. But poor phone quality and limited features from voip solutions. It would be better to utilize a landline solution for your directory services as these usually offer better directory platform.
 
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Dot-tel building is about the simple presentation of information.

There are so many ways to make use of something like this, yet the haters are REALLY hating. It is astonsihing to me how hard people are bashing this domain.

I am glad too though, less competition ;)
 
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lexisdomains said:
Beautiful solution. But poor phone quality and limited features from voip solutions. It would be better to utilize a landline solution for your directory services as these usually offer better directory platform.

You could be right about call quality, but voip.ms offers a premium service level that claims guaranteed reliability/quality through tier-1 carriers, for US/Canada at least.

I'll probably do some testing with different solutions to find the best one.
 
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well heres my complete list: let the Bashing begin lol!!

dmv.tel

findhotel.tel

grocery.tel

gynecologist.tel

license.tel

nailsalon.tel

obstetrician.tel

pharmacist.tel

pills.tel

proctologist.tel

psychiatrist.tel

ratings.tel

union.tel

veterinary.tel

vietnamese.tel

Any ideas for Monetising?

oh and by the way great link to Mongoose Metrics. Thank you much appreciated.

I left off the 2 Adult domains to keep the forum PG-
 
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aliencafe said:
well heres my complete list: let the Bashing begin lol!!

dmv.tel

findhotel.tel

grocery.tel

gynecologist.tel

license.tel

nailsalon.tel

obstetrician.tel

pharmacist.tel

pills.tel

proctologist.tel

psychiatrist.tel

ratings.tel

union.tel

veterinary.tel

vietnamese.tel

Any ideas for Monetising?

oh and by the way great link to Mongoose Metrics. Thank you much appreciated.

I left off the 2 Adult domains to keep the forum PG-


Good for you taking a punt! I had union on my short list!
 
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Some of those are really nice. Great scores! :kickass:

Could you PM me the adult ones? I'm very curious.
 
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aliencafe said:
vietnamese.tel

Any ideas for Monetising?
Sounds like you'll need DavidCopperfield.tel :cy:
 
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MicroGuy said:
Sounds like you'll need DavidCopperfield.tel :cy:

Hahaha, that's quite funny actually :lol: I note that he hasn't bought his .tel name yet, bit of a surprise. :gn:
 
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aliencafe said:
vietnamese.tel

Any ideas for Monetising?

I have few native .TEL domains and thinking about monetizing.
 
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If its not too early to comment...what's the verdict guys?? Is .Tel a hit or a flop??

I personally am not a big fan of .Tel....
 
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cobainer said:
If its not too early to comment...what's the verdict guys?? Is .Tel a hit or a flop??

I personally am not a big fan of .Tel....

Too early to say that... at least wait until it go public on 24 march 2009
lol
 
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Micro guy did you look into RichardCranium.Tel ?

lol
 
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Justin Hayward discussing .Tel marketing plan would be greatly appreciated by all of us in this forum.

Justin I'm sure you are busy but could you drop us a note on a marketing plan by Telnic.

Thanks in advance, by the way I do own quite a few .Tel domains...
 
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