The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[plaggypig]

ok let's see this example. if one day people are able to type xxx.tel in voip phone. i open one web call xxx american.com for application who want to have his/her name.american.tel cost 2 bucks a ywar. appplication process in 30 days only. if you don't wanna be access thru this name just create yourself thru telnic cost 20 buck a year. hurry up, before others take youname.american.tel.

Telnic's AUP says you're not allowed to lease or sell sub-domains - I think the intention of such a policy is to prevent the kind of service that you've just described from emerging, which would be in direct competition with Telnic.

 

[Ms Domainer]

Telnic's AUP says you're not allowed to lease or sell sub-domains - I think the intention of such a policy is to prevent the kind of service that you've just described from emerging, which would be in direct competition with Telnic.

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You can lease listings, but as the domain owner, you have to retain control of all subdomains.

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[plaggypig]

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You can lease listings, but as the domain owner, you have to retain control of all subdomains.

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Yeah but he was talking about leasing sub-domains rather than listings, I think?

 

[Ms Domainer]

Yeah but he was talking about leasing sub-domains rather than listings, I think?

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I think so; before he buys any more .tel domains, he should be made aware of this restriction.

Otherwise, he will be disappointed, especially if he over buys.



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[steveteva]

Here are some tips for domainers who wants to register .tel

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For business

1. Check for services that people want to call (if it's with their mobile it's greater)
ex Plumber, Towing, Car Wash, Limousine, Taxi......

2. Go to Google Local (maps) and type in city + service to see if there are lot of competitiors.
ex: los angeles plumber, car wash,......

3. If results from Google local business ads and the number of competitors are high then you found a great name. You will be able to contact them for a listing in your .tel in future.

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.tel versus .me

For individuals you must wait for general registration because even a generic first name (ben.tel) is not worth, I'm aware of spammers and it's easy for them to type all first name to get contact infos. but something like: benk.tel will be more spamproof.
Also .me is better than .tel for individuals because you can host your personal website along with your contact infos. But .tel is perfect if .me is already taken by someone else.


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.mobi is good with .tel if you need to add link to it for mobile devices as website.

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Don't forget that you have no possibility to host any ads, form, payment process... on a .tel like you will do with a .com website: ex: Hello, if you want to add your listing on our directory, click here to register.......payment....listing added, email confirmation....

So you will mainly use Google ads, phone contact or a .com website to get your customers to list their business.

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Registering Geo is good if it's not to wide because it's easier for you to manage and more interesting for a business owner to be on a Geo target than general Geo.
ex: better to have my pizza restaurant listed on Losangeles.tel than america.tel will take less click to reach it. Also too small geo's are not so good too.
I will better prefer city than state geo name.

 

[Ms Domainer]

Here are some tips for domainers who wants to register .tel

----
For business

1. Check for services that people want to call (if it's with their mobile it's greater)
ex Plumber, Towing, Car Wash, Limousine, Taxi......

2. Go to Google Local (maps) and type in city + service to see if there are lot of competitiors.
ex: los angeles plumber, car wash,......

3. If results from Google local business ads and the number of competitors are high then you found a great name. You will be able to contact them for a listing in your .tel in future.

---
.tel versus .me

For individuals you must wait for general registration because even a generic first name (ben.tel) is not worth, I'm aware of spammers and it's easy for them to type all first name to get contact infos. but something like: benk.tel will be more spamproof.
Also .me is better than .tel for individuals because you can host your personal website along with your contact infos. But .tel is perfect if .me is already taken by someone else.


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.mobi is good with .tel if you need to add link to it for mobile devices as website.

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Don't forget that you have no possibility to host any ads, form, payment process... on a .tel like you will do with a .com website: ex: Hello, if you want to add your listing on our directory, click here to register.......payment....listing added, email confirmation....

So you will mainly use Google ads, phone contact or a .com website to get your customers to list their business.

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Registering Geo is good if it's not to wide because it's easier for you to manage and more interesting for a business owner to be on a Geo target than general Geo.
ex: better to have my pizza restaurant listed on Losangeles.tel than america.tel will take less click to reach it. Also too small geo's are not so good too.
I will better prefer city than state geo name.

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On the other hand, having a broad, generic, short, and brandable one-word keyword that enhances the meaning of .tel will (IMHO) also be lucrative, especially if one has a similar corresponding .com domain to go with it.

I really think that there is a good potential for both models to be successful.

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[onspec]

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On the other hand, having a broad, generic, short, and brandable one-word keyword that enhances the meaning of .tel will (IMHO) also be lucrative, especially if one has a similar corresponding .com domain to go with it.
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Here's one example. I used my personal VIP.tel domain for this beta test. The actual domain is Condos.tel. But for the test period its http://scottsmith.vip.tel.

I know this example requires a lot of clicks if you go right thru to the end, especially if able to do this on your mobile. But I wanted to see how the folders and sub-folders worked and to identify areas where monetization can occur. I'm relatively comfortable that current technologies (gps, mobile browser tools etc.) and newly developing applications will help to reduce the number of clicks to get to the desired information much quicker.

Remember, this is just a beta test. The longest chain is thru North America to Canada, Ontario, Toronto and Bloor West and one of the links to specific contact information.

 

[phase111]

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On the other hand, having a broad, generic, short, and brandable one-word keyword that enhances the meaning of .tel will (IMHO) also be lucrative, especially if one has a similar corresponding .com domain to go with it.

I really think that there is a good potential for both models to be successful.

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Exactly, in fact I havent even got any service related names yet (applied but missed out on the best) but might grab one because both regular generics like Jewelry.tel and service .tel's like plumbing.tel would work well with dot tel equally in my opinion.
:hearts:

 

[Tribulatio]

Here's one example. I used my personal VIP.tel domain for this beta test. The actual domain is Condos.tel. But for the test period its http://scottsmith.vip.tel.

I know this example requires a lot of clicks if you go right thru to the end, especially if able to do this on your mobile.

Thank you for sharing this test page, interesting, especially for thinking about the number of levels. I would say that clicking twice, maybe thrice is OK - but after the third click, one should be able to land to end results - at least that was my feeling when clicking through and attempting to think how far I would go as a potential user.

On the other hand, the positive side is that it is very clear and easy to navigate, the hierarchy can clearly be understood.

As a user of a .tel webpage, I would probably expect at the end to find not only a link to an external webpage, but also a phone number which can be called instantly (I understand it didn't make sense for your experiment, I am just continuing to put myself in customers' shoes).

Anyway, thank you again for sharing your experiment.

 

[onspec]

Name Tactic -Thanks for your comments and observations.

No question - the fewer clicks the better and that's the way we'll be looking to go. Also, as I understand, once .Tel goes live you'll be able to click-to-call, click-to-Skype, SMS, MMS etc. directly from your mobile phone without having to leave the page, write down the number and then re-dial.

In the best of all worlds the end user should be able to select the condo of their choice, experience a virtual tour and be able to click to connect directly with the agent/broker responsible for the listing if that's what they're looking to do. Some applications will need to be developed but if done correctly, I think this model (with a ton of elbow grease) could be very profitable. :sold:

 

[hakita]

Hello

I see and buy .tel as "marketing" phone number, and not a website or online content.

In a near future, i imagine tv ads saying "juste call pizza.tel for 30 min pizza delivery"
+ people will proud to say: "you can contact me at IRule.tell" ( still free)

Exemple, my brother benoit will be 30 in 1 month, and he never heard about .tel
I bought him benoit.tel i just can imagine his face in 1 month when i type benoit.tel on my iphone and it will ring his phone... he will be so happy of that... this is what i expect from .tel

There is more 800 million people named chang in the world...
So i bough the most common name in the world : chang.tel

Anyway, i got a question, does REFINANCE.tel whould sound valuable for you ?
Regard

 

[phase111]

Hello

I see and buy .tel as "marketing" phone number, and not a website or online content.

In a near future, i imagine tv ads saying "juste call pizza.tel for 30 min pizza delivery"
+ people will proud to say: "you can contact me at IRule.tell" ( still free)

Exemple, my brother benoit will be 30 in 1 month, and he never heard about .tel
I bought him benoit.tel i just can imagine his face in 1 month when i type benoit.tel on my iphone and it will ring his phone... he will be so happy of that... this is what i expect from .tel

There is more 800 million people named chang in the world...
So i bough the most common name in the world : chang.tel

Anyway, i got a question, does REFINANCE.tel whould sound valuable for you ?
Regard

Yeah, I think that's quite good, it certainly gets a lot of keyword traffic according to the google keyword tool (9mill worldwide p/m approx). You should be looking for what people would want to type into teh .tel directory by hand too and I don't see eventually why they wouldnt type this term in (providing it became a well used directory by the masses) and this is the gamble. Im sure that some financial institute may be keen to buy it at a later stage too for big bucks. I just wouldnt buy more than one or two of these type generics.

 

[steveteva]

Hello

I see and buy .tel as "marketing" phone number, and not a website or online content.

In a near future, i imagine tv ads saying "juste call pizza.tel for 30 min pizza delivery"
+ people will proud to say: "you can contact me at IRule.tell" ( still free)

Exemple, my brother benoit will be 30 in 1 month, and he never heard about .tel
I bought him benoit.tel i just can imagine his face in 1 month when i type benoit.tel on my iphone and it will ring his phone... he will be so happy of that... this is what i expect from .tel

There is more 800 million people named chang in the world...
So i bough the most common name in the world : chang.tel

Anyway, i got a question, does REFINANCE.tel whould sound valuable for you ?
Regard

Ok, like I already wrote lately about .tel for individuals, your statement about benoit and calls is really not a good example, I see it useless because I'm sure that you don't need to spend $300 for a .tel to make a call since you've got his phone in your iphone contact (also can have all other infos like web...)
But Chang is the right choice since you can add all your family contacts in it with a .tel
For REFINANCE.tel, it is valuable because companies (mortgage, bank....) could be interested like someone here wrote about an ad, ex: looking for refinance go to refinance.tel and call us now.

In my case, I have car wash.tel and as an example, I own a car wash company and they come to me mostly by word of mouth and my customers have difficulties to remember and provide my telephone and contact number to their friends (as refferal), now it's easy as 123, I will send cards to my customers my contact infos is : car wash.tel , next time they have friends that want their car to be cleaned, they will spread the word "car wash.tel", also can have contact infos for Reservation, Office,.... Map.... SEE how .tel is powerful.

 

[Ms Domainer]

Ok, like I already wrote lately about .tel for individuals, your statement about benoit and calls is really not a good example, I see it useless because I'm sure that you don't need to spend $300 for a .tel to make a call since you've got his phone in your iphone contact (also can have all other infos like web...)
But Chang is the right choice since you can add all your family contacts in it with a .tel
For REFINANCE.tel, it is valuable because companies (mortgage, bank....) could be interested like someone here wrote about an ad, ex: looking for refinance go to refinance.tel and call us now.

In my case, I have car wash.tel and as an example, I own a car wash company and they come to me mostly by word of mouth and my customers have difficulties to remember and provide my telephone and contact number to their friends (as refferal), now it's easy as 123, I will send card to my customers my contact infos is : car wash.tel , next time they have a friend that want their car to be clean, they will spread the word car wash.tel, also can have Contact for Reservation, Office,.... Map.... SEE how .tel is powerful.

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I'm a writer, so getting writer.tel makes sense for me.

I think that POPULAR first names will do well; never underestimate the power of vanity.

Also, you could do a reverse directory of a popular first name, for example,

firstname.tel:

Subdirectories: LastName.FirstName.Tel

These could be interesting little niches, especially for those people who can't get FirstNameLastName.tel.

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[TechZone]

Feedback please on the following that I just picked up, in addition to the couple I had from a couple of days ago:

HomeLoan.tel
AutoLoan.tel
Refi.tel (I hear this word much more than the actual word - refinance)
Cellular.tel
Dish.tel (could be a aggregate contact point for all of the Dish Network (Satellite TV) providers in the USA)

Thanks!

 

[steveteva]

Feedback please on the following that I just picked up, in addition to the couple I had from a couple of days ago:

HomeLoan.tel
AutoLoan.tel
Refi.tel (I hear this word much more than the actual word - refinance)
Cellular.tel
Dish.tel (could be a aggregate contact point for all of the Dish Network (Satellite TV) providers in the USA)

Thanks!

HomeLoan.tel and AutoLoan.tel: yes but maybe with plurials is better loans

Refi.tel (I hear this word much more than the actual word - refinance) : but refinance is the real name

Cellular.tel : Excellent one

Dish.tel (could be a aggregate contact point for all of the Dish Network (Satellite TV) providers in the USA) : SatelliteTV (available) must be better.

 

[plaggypig]

In my case, I have car wash.tel and as an example, I own a car wash company and they come to me mostly by word of mouth and my customers have difficulties to remember and provide my telephone and contact number to their friends (as refferal), now it's easy as 123, I will send cards to my customers my contact infos is : car wash.tel , next time they have friends that want their car to be cleaned, they will spread the word "car wash.tel", also can have contact infos for Reservation, Office,.... Map.... SEE how .tel is powerful.

I don't wish to rain on your parade, but people don't usually need to prearrange appointments for a car wash, do they?

Tip: dogwalkers.tel is free. That's the kind of thing you need to actually contact somebody for. There are still plenty of names like that available.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[gilescoley]

Just curious what people think in regards to which are the best names to register in regards to plural, verbs, singular etc

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Which is better??

Plumbing.tel
Plumber.tel
Plumbers.tel

Thanks

 

[steveteva]

I don't wish to rain on your parade, but people don't usually need to prearrange appointments for a car wash, do they?

Tip: dogwalkers.tel is free. That's the kind of thing you need to actually contact somebody for. There are still plenty of names like that available.

Just my 2 cents.

It's like at the hairstyler, it's better to prearrange appointments for a car wash specially after rainny days otherwise you'll have to wait for your turn or take an appointment.

 

[gilescoley]

Do you think .tel names with a hyphen will work if they are really popular terms, or is it better just to avoid the hyphens altogether

say something like this one??

Real-Estate.tel