The .PRO Discussion

[InvisionTech]

It seems .PRO is slowly coming out of the cage with cheaper reg prices than they were a year ago and major registrars like netsol taking notice of the extension and promoting it.

Here are some that I picked up in last couple of days:

Alexandria.pro

Anchorage.pro

Arlington.pro

Belfast.pro

Birmingham.pro

Budapest.pro

Durham.pro

Fairfax.pro

Italian.pro

Lisbon.pro

Fire away with your regs after the relaunch on September 8th, 2008.

 

[PNW]

...but prime real estate should not be given away for nothing. I think the discounts have served their purpose...but it is sending the wrong message.

This is uptown!

It's not prime; just like most other extensions besides the top two or three.

Internal trading is relatively non-existent.

 

[gkjunior]

It's not prime; just like most other extensions besides the top two or three.

Internal trading is relatively non-existent.

Do you think this owner considers .pro prime ??



When I look at the above screenshot...all i think is prime... this is after all the purpose of having a domain name to develope and rank....not so one can post statements about an extension

I am not shocked but a little surprised how easy it is to get side tracked with this domain business and the comments that are opinions only....

Is it or is not important to develope and rank?

If the answer is NO....than lets just shut this down

If the answer is yes than the supply and demand theory becomes part of the valuation equation.

How many people can own LosAngelesPatentAttorney. anything in the world that will rank and create trust so a potential client will become a lead or a sale ?

Is this something we should be talking or discussing about more versus an occasional IMHO about the value of the extension?

What was Las Vegas before the casinos ? It took vision and a little arm twisting...but it never was a .com

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Pro and Contra

PROfession(al)
PROgressive
PROperties
PROmotion
PR Online
PROduct(ion)
PROject
PROfile
PROfit

 

[JoeBiz]

Do you think this owner considers .pro prime ??

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When I look at the above screenshot...all i think is prime... this is after all the purpose of having a domain name to develope and rank....not so one can post statements about an extension

I am not shocked but a little surprised how easy it is to get side tracked with this domain business and the comments that are opinions only....

Is it or is not important to develope and rank?
If the answer is NO....than lets just shut this down
If the answer is yes than the supply and demand theory becomes part of the valuation equation.
How many people can own LosAngelesPatentAttorney. anything in the world that will rank and create trust so a potential client will become a lead or a sale ?
Is this something we should be talking or discussing about more versus an occasional IMHO about the value of the extension?
What was Las Vegas before the casinos ? It took vision and a little arm twisting...but it never was a .com

Thanks for the screenshot AND the post. I think it's noteworthy that there are two extensions on that page. Just two. No net, org, biz, us, me, mobi, co or tv. Just Pro and Com.

If you can't get the dot com that you need, what's your second choice going to be for the company in which you've poured years of blood and sweat. One of these? ... net, org, biz, us, me, mobi, co or tv.


8^X

 

[IDNpro]

One more on auction:

http://www.sedo.com/auction/auction_detail.php?auction_id=125500

:wave:

The winner bidder of this auction didn't respect his personal honer - he didn't make payment for this domain name. :yell:

 

[ProvenPro]

I have 85 Pros that I am willing to let go of for $500 total, this week only. Mixed bag, but mostly one word descriptive and action terms. PM me if you would like to see the list for the package deal.

 

[-EM-]

Some of you here forget the most important thing, the highest position in google search is based in SEO abilities and not in the domain. In other words, you can get higher position even with example.com/keyword

If you search on google Free domain name, the first result will be co.nr, does it mean .nr is a great ccTLD? Maybe better than .pro?? lol

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

erandi, check this out: http://www.namepros.com/4246855-post3341.html
And please tell your SEO-stories on SEO-forums.
Thanks.

 

[-EM-]

erandi, check this out: http://www.namepros.com/4246855-post3341.html
And please tell your SEO-stories on SEO-forums.
Thanks.

:lol:
I have already gave my opinion about .pro sales.

 

[Edward Smeu]

Some of you here forget the most important thing, the highest position in google search is based in SEO abilities and not in the domain. In other words, you can get higher position even with example.com/keyword

If you search on google Free domain name, the first result will be co.nr, does it mean .nr is a great ccTLD? Maybe better than .pro?? lol

Are you for real? You just lost all credibility for me. This is just bad will and arrogance.

 

[Jawed]

Are you for real? You just lost all credibility for me. This is just bad will and arrogance.

The point that erandi is making is that the credibility of an extension cannot be decided by search results. Undoubtedly when .pro owners see .pro sites on the first page of the Google search results, they get some comfort.

However, this proves nothing as far as the popularity or mass acceptance or credibility of an extension is concerned. This kind of search engine optimisation can be achieved with quality backlinks for any extension.

 

[MeanerDomainer]

Deleted.

 

[Edward Smeu]

@Jawed

I understand his point, it's not about that, it's about his sarcasm and irony. It's about that people who are against this extension have nothing in mind but to throw words of how bad it is going to extreme and nothing and nobody can change their opinion no matter what. Now,don't get me wrong, I don't really care about that but I care that people like these make people who actually have something good to say to stop posting because debating with irrational arguments is valid only in politics, not here anyway. This is what kills a forum.

I don't mind a good debate with good arguments, I mind when people are having no sense and are showing their frustrations for no reason.

I don't want to 'attack' anyone,I just posted my point.

 

[-EM-]

@Jawed

I understand his point, it's not about that, it's about his sarcasm and irony. It's about that people who are against this extension 1) have nothing in mind but to throw words of how bad it is going to extreme and nothing and nobody can change their opinion no matter what. Now,don't get me wrong, I don't really care about that but I care that people like these make people who actually have something good to say to stop posting because debating with irrational arguments is valid only in politics, not here anyway. This is what kills a forum.

I don't mind a good debate with good arguments, I mind when people are having no sense and are showing their frustrations for no reason.

2) I don't want to 'attack' anyone,3) I just posted my point.

I am not against any TLD andI am not going to extreme, btw I think you need to read my posts twice. I simply don't like the way some of you "treat" this TLD confusing new domainers. I see it just like an other gTLD created for the only reason to generate money.

1)Have you ever thought about the opposite? :O
2)You already did.
3)Allow the others to do the same

 

[Edward Smeu]

Mate,you're taking it too personal, I don't care of the nickname behind a post, I only care for the post, I appreciate a good post even if someone has 15 really nasty ones and one good though its room for improvement.

If you feel "attacked" by me as a person I apologize because that was not my intention, I was against your post which was out of line IMO. Have you read the debates in the last 20 pages before you posted that?

To sum it up:

1) Of course I did, i had and have domains which are worthless in different extensions but the .pro ones are not in that category. Again, read the last pages and you get my point. I'm not saying that .pro will get me rich, I'm saying that i can make profit on these.

2) Already talked about that.

3) I am "allowing" everybody to post their points but It seems such a waste when someone does it MG's style. But even MG is serious when he wants.

.Pro is just a second-hand extension. Some people say it won't be anymore, it's just a matter of which side you choose and why.

 

[bmugford]

Are you for real? You just lost all credibility for me. This is just bad will and arrogance.

The point that erandi is making is that the credibility of an extension cannot be decided by search results. Undoubtedly when .pro owners see .pro sites on the first page of the Google search results, they get some comfort.

However, this proves nothing as far as the popularity or mass acceptance or credibility of an extension is concerned. This kind of search engine optimisation can be achieved with quality backlinks for any extension.

The original post by Erandi is dead on.

An isolated result in Google does not mean anything for an extension in general.

It does not show the credibility, awareness, or usage of an extension.

I can find similar results for every other obscure extension.

"Site:.pro" only shows 11.9M indexed pages in Google.
It is not like the extension is all that popular in reality.

For reference purposes -

.INFO - 1.7B
.US - 472M
.BIZ - 457M
.MOBI - 248M

Brad

 

[Kate]

An isolated result in Google does not mean anything for an extension in general.

It does not show the credibility, awareness, or usage of an extension.

On the other hand to never stumble on a .pro domain while searching google could mean something.

 

[Edward Smeu]

An isolated result in Google does not mean anything for an extension in general.

It does not show the credibility, awareness, or usage of an extension.

I can find similar results for every other obscure extension.

"Site:.pro" only shows 11.9M indexed pages in Google.
It is not like the extension is all that popular in reality.

For reference purposes -

.INFO - 1.7B
.US - 472M
.BIZ - 457M
.MOBI - 248M

Brad

Totally agree Brad.

But here comes the bright side, he didn't post screen shots because of that, he posted because we had a talk some pages ago to post developed ranked pro sites , have you missed that?

So all this argument is based on what? Nobody is trying to stick .pro on anyone's throat, this post wouldn't exist if you guys would've read the entire context, that's why I didn't like erandi's post and that's why i don't like yours either. Because it has nothing to do with the dynamics of this thread, you state the obvious which can not be argued.

@sdsinc

You're perfectly right but and I repeat it for the last time, .pro is just an obscure/shady/non-used etc. extension at the moment. I have less than year since I am buying (few) .pro names just because the fact that I THINK (my opinion) that this extension is gonna take off soon. Afilias will get into full rights this summer, only starting then we will see changes, until then there are premium names to be sold on peanuts, take it or leave it.

I hope I am clear with this, I don't like repeating (over and over again).

 

[Kate]

You're perfectly right but and I repeat it for the last time, .pro is just an obscure/shady/non-used etc. extension at the moment.

Well we agree on something.

I THINK (my opinion) that this extension is gonna take off soon. Afilias will get into full rights this summer, only starting then we will see changes, until then there are premium names to be sold on peanuts, take it or leave it.

Perhaps you have some insider intelligence ?
'Gonna take off soon' has been said about pretty much any extension for the last 15 years or so.
I don't see what is going to shake up a TLD after ten years of stagnation.
Bad timing too, with the announced flood of new TLDs it's definitely clear most (that is nearly all) of the earlier experiments have been a failure, it's not just .pro that missed the boat.
What exactly makes you think that Afilias is going to bring .pro back to life when their purchasing the .mobi registry has not produced any tangible change ?
More specifically, what kind of 'changes' are you expecting from Afilias ? More promotion ? Even cheaper prices ?

From their home page:

Afilias' technology ensures that your service works 100% of the time. Afilias powers key pieces of the Internet's infrastructure, including resolution of all .info, .org and .mobi domains.

No mention of .pro yet.
Perhaps it is what you said, they are not into full rights yet.


It seems that we agree on the present reality, now I'm trying to understand the exuberant optimism for the future :gl:

 

[Edward Smeu]

Funny you ask that,we had the exact same discussion on page 147 I don't have any insider intelligence, I just have my logic and rational thinking based on the info I have. Some names will be sold, some won't just like in (almost)every other extension.

One more thing, "exuberant optimism"? Not really, just optimism. I can always try to develop the names and sell as websites for profit.