The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[JB Lions]

The CBO released their report yesterday - https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53348

Senate GOP tax bill hurts the poor more than originally thought, CBO finds
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-poor-more-than-originally-thought-cbo-finds/

Lowest-income Americans would take bigger hit than first thought under Senate GOP tax bill, CBO says
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/lowest-income-americans-bigger-hit-161206148.html

The agency subtracted changes in federal spending for different income groups from the change in federal revenues allocated to each group. Essentially, the analysis looked at how much effect increased taxes from a group and decreased spending on the same group had on overall deficit estimates. The groups hit hardest — the ones providing a reduction to federal deficits — are the poorest. According to the estimates, anyone making less than $30,000 a year would feel the pinch starting in 2019, with the greatest "savings" to the government (again, a combination of either increases in payments or decreases in money spent on a group in services) coming from those who make less than $10,000 a year. By 2010, everyone making $40,000 or less a year would also be contributing to lowering the deficit by paying more in taxes and/or receiving less in services, creating a net savings for the federal government. In that year, the groups making between $10,000 and $20,000 and between $20,000 and $30,000 would each be contributing double what the under-$10,000 group did in savings.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksh...rse-for-low-incomes-than-before/#717eef01503c

This is basically the ole trickle down nonsense?

 

[johname]

Prince Henry's Great-Great Grandmother was American

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42141518

 

[.X.]

First, don't even know if that's real. Let's say it is:

“become more familiar with current language, sensitive to current issues, and to share best practices in supporting our LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP peers and students.”

I can't see anything wrong with that. Yes, all those letters look crazy but helping teachers learn how to deal with some of those issues kids might be going thru, is a good thing.

And this was back in June, I guess the Right are now just getting outraged over this? Something to talk about?

I don't think there is an outrage of any kind, Concerned for the future, disappointment. but not Hate or outrage IMO.

 

[JB Lions]

I don't think there is an outrage of any kind, Concerned for the future, disappointment. but not Hate or outrage IMO.

What concern? That kids are nicer to other kids that might be different from them or teachers know how to deal with it?

 

[GILSAN]

In the memo, it says:
""some surveys suggest as much as half of the public secretly identifies as LGBT to some extent""

Pathetically upsetting if that is true.

Probably in San Francisco

 

[Domainace]

This is when Diane Feinstein made sense, before Illegals could vote for Democrats and before she was paid off by George Soros...

I met her a few times back then. After she was mayor and before she was senator. She was a sharp and very pleasant woman. Since her husband and her have always had boatloads of money, I doubt Soros would have much sway. Something just seems to happen to people when they are in Washington too long.

 

[enlytend]

I thought Democrats enjoyed paying taxes

I thought republicans really believed in lowering them ... and the national deficit. How can any republican in good conscience vote for something that adds over $1 trillion to it ?

One of the complaints with this bill is that, like the ACA repeal attempts, its being fast tracked through behind closed doors with little transparency. The CBO just got their analysis out in the last few days- normally they would have time to do that up front, followed by debate and discussion.

Speculation is their rich sponsors have threatened to stop writing checks if they can't pass anything but gas...

Less interference from rich sponsors would be a good thing.

Navajo nation responded to the potus' rude and disgusting remarks. And it was a good slapdown.

 

[johname]

Sorry, nav nation My too long to read thigny that JBL mention but yeah he needs to stop that (calling her Poco) It was one thing during the election, but now uncalled for. I would even call it harassment.

We are in a never ending period of increasing the defect. That puppy never going to go lower period because nobody wants to deal with the problem of what really needs to be done to lower it. We cant even deal with someone grabbing someone's ass, how are we going to deal with mass economic problems. So even the Reps have to kick the can down the road

 

[GILSAN]

 

[mr-x]

Lowest income American's don't pay taxes. Maybe the lowest tax bracket.

This kind of emotional click-bait is usually full of bias. Stats and reports are interpreted to reach a conclusion.

CBO is not non-partisan or even accurate. Neither are the hot-take interpretations.

The CBO released their report yesterday - https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53348

Senate GOP tax bill hurts the poor more than originally thought, CBO finds
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-poor-more-than-originally-thought-cbo-finds/

Lowest-income Americans would take bigger hit than first thought under Senate GOP tax bill, CBO says
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/lowest-income-americans-bigger-hit-161206148.html

The agency subtracted changes in federal spending for different income groups from the change in federal revenues allocated to each group. Essentially, the analysis looked at how much effect increased taxes from a group and decreased spending on the same group had on overall deficit estimates. The groups hit hardest — the ones providing a reduction to federal deficits — are the poorest. According to the estimates, anyone making less than $30,000 a year would feel the pinch starting in 2019, with the greatest "savings" to the government (again, a combination of either increases in payments or decreases in money spent on a group in services) coming from those who make less than $10,000 a year. By 2010, everyone making $40,000 or less a year would also be contributing to lowering the deficit by paying more in taxes and/or receiving less in services, creating a net savings for the federal government. In that year, the groups making between $10,000 and $20,000 and between $20,000 and $30,000 would each be contributing double what the under-$10,000 group did in savings.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksh...rse-for-low-incomes-than-before/#717eef01503c

This is basically the ole trickle down nonsense?

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[enlytend]

So even the Reps have to kick the can down the road

They're kicking the cans of those who can least afford it. Trickle down didn't work last time and it won't work now.

The removal of inheritance tax is a joke. You need to be inheriting a couple million to have to pay any in the first place. So who benefits from that and who is footing the bill?

Taxes go up on the middle class -> less discretionary income -> less spending. Less consumer spending isn't a good thing.

They're trying to rush this POS through to save face. It's not well thought-out, it doesn't benefit the majority of their constituents. Just the 1%-ers.

CBO has been used as the standard. It laid out a full analysis of the bill and its projected impact. I don't know where anyone can make a case that it's "biased" - is that what they're saying on Breitbart this week?

 

[johname]

I keep thinking about how happy Prince Andrew was to marry Fergie lol

Meghan Markle intends to become UK citizen after marriage to Prince Harry

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/europe/prince-harry-meghan-markle-wedding-details/index.html

Just noticed Meghan was married before. Imagine having a Royal second husband

 

[mr-x]

You mean second hand wife.

 

[GILSAN]

Grammy Awards Shocker for CBS as Top Pop Stars Ed Sheeran, Lady Gaga Snubbed, No Country Acts in Main Cateogories

http://www.showbiz411.com/2017/11/2...-z-bruno-mars-kendrick-lamar-childish-gambino
Record of the Year
“Redbone” — Childish Gambino
“Despacito” — Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee Featuring Justin Bieber
“The Story Of O.J.” — JAY-Z
“HUMBLE.” — Kendrick Lamar
“24K Magic” — Bruno Mars

Had to go to Youtube to listen to all the songs except for Despacito, which is already well know internationally and a fantastic catchy song.

I'm amazed at the crap that's been chosen. I would like to ask all the people offended by Trump calling Pocahontas, if you you are offended by this song or not?

If not, why not? And why is this song not considered 1000 more offensive, at least according to American standards of offensiveness? Why is the MSM not screaming Blue Murder and going Ape Sh*t at this song?

Enjoy...

 

[GILSAN]

You mean second hand wife.

LOL...

 

[johname]

I would like to ask all the people offended by Trump calling Pocahontas, if you you are offended by this song or not?

Yeah I am sure I wouldnt like the song lol


Trump can keep calling out Warren on lying about her ethnicity to get to the top. But to keep calling her that is terrible.

 

[johname]

I guess we have to burn our AL Disney DVDs now

(I didn't read this so don't throw things at me lol)

Angela Lansbury: Women must 'sometimes take blame' for sexual harassment
http://ew.com/news/2017/11/28/angela-lansbury-sexual-harassment/

 

[GILSAN]

Yeah I am sure I wouldnt like the song lol

Trump can keep calling out Warren on lying about her ethnicity to get to the top. But to keep calling her that is terrible.

Warren and lots of others + the Liberal Media have dished out much worst insults at Trump than he has dished out. No one was offended by Disney making a movie called Pocahontas. This reminds me of all the fuss created by Liberals about changing the name "Redskins" to something else, even though apparently most Native Indians did NOT find it offensive.

Just too much political correctness going on in the US and rubbing into Europe. Can't say this, can't say that, can't do this, can't do that. Am I glad I'm not PC

 

[enlytend]

Just noticed Meghan was married before. Imagine having a Royal second husband

So? Lots of people have a "starter marriage" before they settle down with a better one. He was wild when younger but has said many times that he wants a family. She's a pretty girl, they seem like they have a good relationship, I wish them well.

Trump can keep calling out Warren on lying about her ethnicity to get to the top. But to keep calling her that is terrible.

Especially when done by a head of state at an event honoring the Navajo Code Talkers...

Part of the Navajo Nation's response:

"The Navajo Code Talkers are not pawns to advance a personal grudge, or promote false narratives. Such pandering dishonors the sacrifice of our national heroes."

Disgusting lack of respect for these veterans and the dignity of the office he holds.
What anyone else has or has not said or done doesn't make it excusable or any less inappropriate.

BTW - why haven't those Russian sanctions been implemented yet? They're weeks overdue. And why was the state department office that administers sanctions just closed? Gee - almost like they... I don't know ... never had any intention of implementing them?

 

[johname]

So?

It's beyond dreaming to marry into the Royal family under even the most perfect scenario (being from a rich English family going to the proper schools, etc)

So, to do it without out that and being previously married is stratospheric by all counts.