Wanted The Laziest Way to Monetize Any Domain

[Timothy Carambat]

Hey everyone,

We all know about parking and the profitability that comes with that solution. I am here to offer a new revenue stream for domainers that you will only find with DynaDomains.

What DynaDomains does is allows your single domain to be leased the hundreds of people, but all at the same time. Crazy right? You make a nice ~70% commission on each lease paid out monthly. All the magic is hidden behind the scenes because all you need to do is set up a 301 redirect. That's all.

You could onboard your first domain in 5 minutes to try us out - I promise its totally painless.
1. Create an account
2. Onboard your domain and accept a suitable commission and rate for your domain
3. Setup the redirect to our routing engine
Now you're live!

With DynaDomains we handle everything and as a domainer - I know how important inbound leads are - that is why we will redirect all non-leased requests to your generic domain sale page or we show an autogenerated page for potential buyers to inquire on.

What's it cost?
As a domainer - absolutely nothing. This literally just becomes another potential revenue stream while you manage inbound leads as you were before.

How do I make money?
When you onboard a domain (or 100) you will determine the rate and commission you wish to be paid with, typically 65 to 75%.

Once your domain is live businesses and marketers can now lease your domain over their own geographic area they get to define. The lessee pays per square mile. Whatever the lessee pays per month you get a huge cut of that. We payout our domain partners monthly.

We also pre-validate these lessees so your domain is not associated with a malicious or illegal website - any grey area and we will ask you first.

What if I hate you?
Kind of aggressive. If you don't like us or you sell the domain - just remove the domain from your domain dashboard and remove the redirect from wherever you manage the domain. You can also just remove the redirect and we will find out that way also but that is really unprofessional - don't ya think?

Okay, but why should I care?
Well, we are the only service on the entire internet that is going to let you do this kind of monetization with this amount of flexibility and freedom. If you don't like our suggested rates you can request a custom quote and I can assure you we can find some pretty number to settle on.

But, if you need another reason besides new easy money...
If you onboard a domain at all and email us just saying you came from NamePros we will bump up your commission to 80% (obviously only for a limited time).
NOTE: The 80% commission for NamePros members will stop June 13th 2020 @ 5PM PST!

Closing Statements.
That's all - I'm done shilling myself now. I hope to hear back from some fellow domainers. I began this whole startup because I think we can all agree parking just doesn't bring in revenue like it needs to - sure a few dollars here and that is great, but unless you have some golden premium domain with high traffic you are hardly making much.

DynaDomains allows us to monetize any unused domains that we have in a way we never could before without interrupting what we are already doing to squeeze every dollar out until the final sale.

Thanks.
-Tim

 

[OnlineBusiness.com]

I commend you on an innovative platform. Definitely an out of box idea.

The big problem I see is all it takes is one bad apple to ruin the reputation of a domain.

When I lease out my names I’m already concerned about this, what more if dozens of companies are using my domain.

Any thoughts to this?

 

[Timothy Carambat]

@lock - Current there is not since we just launched. That being said there is plans for that in the future so you can earn residuals on others leasing there domain!

@ecomslice - We dont attempt to lease a domain to multiple people, we actually DO it. Each lease is reserved over a specific geographic area they get to define. Visitors physically within that "geo-fenced" would be redirected to whatever business' site that owns that lease! We are essentially a pass-through service when a visitor is outside of a geo-lease.

If you're outside a lease it would go to your generic domain sale page. This can be defined by you or auto-generated by us.

@davidc1 - We just launched around the start of March, so we are still populating our marketplace before targeted marketing the lessees. If you wanted to see whats already online you can view the marketplace here

@omnia - Got your request, just sent you your manual quote!

@Zagalee - Thank you!

@OnlineBusiness.com - We do our best to prevent this. When a lease is created we do check first if the domain it is going to is even valid, of course. The next step is making sure the site is not malicious or illegal. That process is actually manually approved. Its pretty high-touch but at this stage, it should be. Once a domain for a lease is set it cannot be changed on the fly.

The owner of the ending domain would have to change where that ending domain points to get around that.

That being said you are correct - it is a legitimate concern and we are working up creative solutions on how to automate that to fit any use case.

 

[Rhinnnn]

Hey everyone,

We all know about parking and the profitability that comes with that solution. I am here to offer a new revenue stream for domainers that you will only find with DynaDomains.

What DynaDomains does is allows your single domain to be leased the hundreds of people, but all at the same time. Crazy right? You make a nice ~70% commission on each lease paid out monthly. All the magic is hidden behind the scenes because all you need to do is set up a 301 redirect. That's all.

You could onboard your first domain in 5 minutes to try us out - I promise its totally painless.
1. Create an account
2. Onboard your domain and accept a suitable commission and rate for your domain
3. Setup the redirect to our routing engine
Now you're live!

With DynaDomains we handle everything and as a domainer - I know how important inbound leads are - that is why we will redirect all non-leased requests to your generic domain sale page or we show an autogenerated page for potential buyers to inquire on.

What's it cost?
As a domainer - absolutely nothing. This literally just becomes another potential revenue stream while you manage inbound leads as you were before.

How do I make money?
When you onboard a domain (or 100) you will determine the rate and commission you wish to be paid with, typically 65 to 75%.

Once your domain is live businesses and marketers can now lease your domain over their own geographic area they get to define. The lessee pays per square mile. Whatever the lessee pays per month you get a huge cut of that. We payout our domain partners monthly.

We also pre-validate these lessees so your domain is not associated with a malicious or illegal website - any grey area and we will ask you first.

What if I hate you?
Kind of aggressive. If you don't like us or you sell the domain - just remove the domain from your domain dashboard and remove the redirect from wherever you manage the domain. You can also just remove the redirect and we will find out that way also but that is really unprofessional - don't ya think?

Okay, but why should I care?
Well, we are the only service on the entire internet that is going to let you do this kind of monetization with this amount of flexibility and freedom. If you don't like our suggested rates you can request a custom quote and I can assure you we can find some pretty number to settle on.

But, if you need another reason besides new easy money...
If you onboard a domain at all and email us just saying you came from NamePros we will bump up your commission to 80% (obviously only for a limited time).

Closing Statements.
That's all - I'm done shilling myself now. I hope to hear back from some fellow domainers. I began this whole startup because I think we can all agree parking just doesn't bring in revenue like it needs to - sure a few dollars here and that is great, but unless you have some golden premium domain with high traffic you are hardly making much.

DynaDomains allows us to monetize any unused domains that we have in a way we never could before without interrupting what we are already doing to squeeze every dollar out until the final sale.

Thanks.
-Tim

Interesting project, congrats for starting it.

Question:

Let's say I'm leasing a domain to someone for $50 a month and they pay on the 1st of every month. Let's say they've paid for March, April, May, and will also pay on the 1st of June. But on June 5 I receive an offer for the domain (from someone else) that is too good to refuse - so I really want to sell the domain on that day.

What happens in this scenario? I mean, sure, I can refund the $50 that was paid to lease the domain for June, but the leasee will have been left with a bad experience - since he/she is counting on fully using my name each and every month they're paying for it.

I'd say this is something that needs to be thought out.

 

[davidc1]

Do you have samples of domains already leased ?

 

[Bob Hawkes]

It is an interesting idea. Of course rental lease has been around awhile but it is the idea of geotargeting, thereby reducing costs, that is novel.

Do you plan only .com domain names on site?

Best wishes with the enterprise.

Bob

 

[Bob Hawkes]

I actually like the DynaDomains, as the dyna emphasizes the dynamic aspect of how the service works. I don't personally see conflict with Dynadot, since your main clients are not themselves much into domain names I think. Views differ re .co, but it is being used by some startups and if going to something other than .com, not a bad choice in my opinion.

I am glad to hear that you are open to extensions other than just .com. I think it is wise to consider other TLDs, looking at the strength on both side of the dot. On that too need to be selective though.

I tend to agree with the following comment from @Nametree

I think the issue is most of the domains I currently see listed have next to zero local value. This might work if you can get people with valuable service names onboard, like movers/com or duilawyers/com or acrepair of whatever, if you had names like that, your value proposition would be obvious. Brandables won't work.

It is really hard for a startup to bring on board some high value domains that represent products, services and common expressions, but I think those are the kind of names that would appeal to potential clients.

I know that it is important to stock shelves, but I would be pretty selective right from the start on what you accept on your site. And if you can someone entice an owner of a name of the type @Nametree mentions it would be a huge boost. It is not to say that some niche names can't work on your model, I think they could, but you need on page one some obviously huge market great names.

So if someone uses a VPN are they served from the geo area where the VPN server is, or where they really are?

Best wishes,

Bob

 

[korganian]

Ha! I was wrong. They did not fail after all. Local.com bought Octane360.com for $11 Million ten years ago and local.com then abandoned use of the domain.

Maybe you can sell your business for $11 Million some day too!

 

[Timothy Carambat]

@NickB - The leasing does work globally, but our focus is the US/EU area currently. If/When you sell the domain we have an off-boarding process that won't conflict with the sale or the customer's lease. Currently when a user clicks Buy we just get them in touch with you at first on our platform. If a sale occurs we don't take a commission.

@Rhinnnn - You actually don't need to refund anything and we would handle that. If/When that event occurs we handle it in a way to where everyone is happy. We are very clear with our buyers on the risks/rewards of using DynaDomains so we can always avoid this conflict.

@nononsense123 - It is not hard an fast. if a domain does expire and stops resolving properly we would know. It more is a rule of thumb!

 

[BradWilson]

This looks like a great idea.

It reminds me of Traffic Avenue that was going "well" back about 19 years ago. It seemed to be working pretty well until it wasn't.

I had several domains that should have paid out really well but I don't reminder ever getting paid which I think is what caused it to fail - very sad

I'm in no way suggesting your site will do the same at all, I was just reminded of the other site while reading this thread.

Also, I may have some great domains to add to try this out so I signed up. I may also have some domains for you to consider if you want to rebrand.

 

[Hypersot]

can you explain why you start such an ambitious project on a .co domain
and a hard to read domain name who fail the radio test

domainers will think less of your credibility just for that poor choice

Totally disagree.

if we are talking about domainers, we don't need anyone to sell us 'cosmetics' on a domain. Anyone that is interested in the service they are going to create an account, test it out and then use it..or not.

I would have used the service even if it was on a totally exotic extension with a domain all consonants and dashes if the service worked for me.

 

[Nametree]

Very interesting model, I remember an idea like this being floated at a recent Names on, glad to see someone is doing it.

I think the issue is most of the domains I currently see listed have next to zero local value. This might work if you can get people with valuable service names onboard, like movers/com or duilawyers/com or acrepair of whatever, if you had names like that, your value proposition would be obvious. Brandables won't work.

The other issue is your branding... You've gotta find a better name because this makes me think of Dynadot, and it doesn't help you that you're on a .co. I think it's difficult to trust a domain name company that doesn't operate on a .com.

Best of luck!

 

[Timothy Carambat]

@Bob Hawkes Thank you for that. You are correct and I am trying to target higher-end but perfect for leasing domains but have not gotten much response from them as of yet. If anything the response has been somewhat hostile for some reason.

As for VPN that problem is very real and is a concern. The caveat of that is that a considerable amount of traffic online is mobile and mobile users are very unlikely to use a VPN. They can, but they are not the majority of use cases.

Desktops, of course, do often use VPNs and there would be no circumvention around that as it sits currently. When marketing to the buyers I am upfront though about the limitations of the technology so I do not mislead them on what DynaDomains can and cannot do.

Thanks again.

 

[korganian]

This is the same thing a company was doing years ago that used octane360.com for their site. They never gave anyone a chance to use it except super premium name owners. That may be why they failed. I loved the concept and was disappointed that I couldn't use it.
I will open an account and wish you great success!

 

[namemarket]

A question is I am not clear on how you find buyers to lease the domain and what's the benefit for them especially assuming the leased name has low or no local geo traffic?

A reason I ask is from my leasing opportunities available I had just one person who actually leased from me, in fact no one else has ever inquired about it even though I have been marketing it for a long time.

 

[Timothy Carambat]

@namemarket
We find buyers for leases through traditional marketing like you would expect. We also have partnerships with some agencies that can be leveraged. That all, of course, depends on if the domain the end user needs is available.

Soon, leasing will not be the only way to earn on DynaDomains, but it will be the primary one. When it comes to leasing we offer rates that cannot be found elsewhere because we allow leases to be active only over custom-defined geography. We also support being able to lease a single domain to multiple people at the same time. Otherwise, they would normally have to lease outright or purchase for use of the domain. We offer a lot of flexibility in this space that makes leasing more palatable.

 

[BrandEntrance.com]

@Bob Hawkes Thank you for that. You are correct and I am trying to target higher-end but perfect for leasing domains but have not gotten much response from them as of yet. If anything the response has been somewhat hostile for some reason.

As for VPN that problem is very real and is a concern. The caveat of that is that a considerable amount of traffic online is mobile and mobile users are very unlikely to use a VPN. They can, but they are not the majority of use cases.

Desktops, of course, do often use VPNs and there would be no circumvention around that as it sits currently. When marketing to the buyers I am upfront though about the limitations of the technology so I do not mislead them on what DynaDomains can and cannot do.

Thanks again.

Why not make the visitors select the region they are interested instead of geo forwarding them automatically? Tell them that the content differs according to region.

When a region is booked a subject matter can be given for that region. Then the users choose subject matter.

Can be a dynamic select box based upon the available regions for any given domain name.

 

[Chris Wright]

Hey Timothy,
This is an intriguing business model.
Best of luck in this endeavor!

 

[namemarket]

I spent a long time on the website and could not really figure out how it all worked from viewpoint of both a buyer and seller. Lots of questions with little if any clarity or explanation.

It is quite confusing to me plus some website functions or links do not appear to work. At this time I have given up trying to figure it out.

 

[Hypersot]

I spent a long time on the website and could not really figure out how it all worked from viewpoint of both a buyer and seller. Lots of questions with little if any clarity or explanation.

It is quite confusing to me plus some website functions or links do not appear to work. At this time I have given up trying to figure it out.

Same here.
Spent quite some time yesterday writing a rather long email asking questions. Currently waiting for an answer.

 

[Timothy Carambat]

@Nametree You're spot on actually. I don't want to limit a domainer's ability to use the platform nor will I assume what the end-user actually wants since it can wildly vary depending on their exact need.

That being said generic local names will go far with DynaDomains.

Speaking of DynaDomains - yes I was actually kicking around a lot of names prior. I acquired one recently that might fit, ActiveParker. I'm sure a member on here owns DynaDomains.com - I know its for sale for 50k which at my current operational budget is totally unfeasible.

I can imagine likely in the future I will hop to a new name - mostly due to the DynaDot allusion.

You make all totally valid and fair points. Thanks for giving me some more input on some things I maybe would have suspected later down the line.

 

[Domains Ted]

01. What is your advice to non-residents? For example, if I was staying in the U.S. but temporarily, I would come to Dubai for a few months. I want to visit the United States of America site, not Dubai.
I think below you need to provide options to access other websites.

02. What about consumer disputes, suppose that if there is one destination problem, all regions will suffer.

Best of Luck.

 

[M0rd0r]

I will try @Timothy Carambat !

Best wishes for your project

 

[NickB]

Curious, is the leasing global?

Can I do some outbound and get 10 - 20 companies/websites in different parts of the world to sign up and create 10 x $$ ?

If I have 10 people doing a GEO lease what happens if someone comes along a buys the name as it it is showing a purchase price and lease price on the redirect

 

[Robbie]

Congrats on the new venture, It sounds interesting and something I would be happy to discuss more over at our blog so you can tell everyone about it and how it works - One question from me though is - How will Google be able to distinguish between the different website and understand how to rank it?