.tv Telefon.TV sells for 9,500 EUR

[Ammudamus]

Looks like a decent sale happened through Sedo. Telefon.TV sold for 9,500 EUR.

Other sales:

MobilePorn.TV - $2,000

Source: Sedo Sells website.de For $143,000 | Domain Name News

Best,
A

 

[Ammudamus]

Joel,
That GEO wouldn't happen to be LA.TV, would it?

Best,
A

 

[gr8trfoo]

Strangely, you don't see many of their names dropping or cybertaverm/mrsjello coming on Namepros complaining that the world of .TV is crashing to the ground and we should all head for the hills!

not too many but i have seen jello drop a few. i was quite surprised as they were pretty old and knowing who it was led me to believe it was probably an internal error..

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most domainers should avoid .tv premiums if they are only in it for the quickflip.

most domainers should avoid .tv period. thats both my opinion and my experience.

i still think they're great names. but unless one has a real purpose for a particular .tv the most likely outcome is loss. anyone who thinks the speculative market has any life left has their head well buried in sand.

i hear there are still some LLL.me's available for regfee.

 

[redbat]

We just acquired a lucrative geo .tv that I've been pursuing for awhile - I consider it a top ten geo for our business model. To acquire this domain in .com would've been near impossible and even if we had a chance to buy it, the pricepoint, imho, would've been 7 figures based on what domainers would drive the price up to, perhaps even reaching high-7 or 8 figures to a targeted end-user. The .TV didn't cost us anywhere near that amount.

Owning the premium has opened doors with partners/sponsors/allies FASTER than we ever could've opened ourselves... and most importantly, the doors stay OPEN because we invested in a category killer and others want a piece of it. Yes, it all comes down to presentation, packaging, business plan... but if I had approached the same group with the alternative .com that we own, we would not have met with the same open arms (what we've been told). So the premium fee was money well.

I don't believe this. I remember a post several years ago about getting big offers on AC.TV. Now I see that AC.TV is dropped. Same owner.

I'm going to bet that LA.TV shows up on the drop list, just like AC.TV.

 

[MrRhee]

Joel,
That GEO wouldn't happen to be LA.TV, would it?

Best,
A

possibly.

 

[GoneWalkabout]

I'm going to bet that LA.TV shows up on the drop list, just like AC.TV.

I think that you are failing to notice the REAL situation here.

A PREMIUM name ($5,000 according to Ahead) was FIRST registered in January 2010

That means some people are indeed BUYING Premiums.




(may I add, I'm NOT buying prems as a rule, although I did acquire a new one this week - however, I can see, if they have a solid plan, why people are still happy to purchase them)

 

[MrRhee]

I don't believe this. I remember a post several years ago about getting big offers on AC.TV. Now I see that AC.TV is dropped. Same owner.

I'm going to bet that LA.TV shows up on the drop list, just like AC.TV.

I usually won't reply to anonymous trolls, but your post is hilarious. Why should it matter to me if YOU believe anything? LOL. You don't put food on my table, you don't pay my bills, you essentially do not matter to me.

We don't acquire to flip. If a name no longer fits our business model, we drop it. If a new opportunity presents itself in the future we will re-acquire if necessary/available. AC received great offers but we were looking for partners/sponsors and people only wanted to buyout. Not our business model. We don't have time for that. Our original concept for AC didn't get the feedback we would've liked from our target market so we let it go and poured funding into other verticals/industries offline & online and focused heavily on building out our platform, our network and forming alliances with Lead-Generation, VC, SEO type-firms, etc. - now we can attack the market with a stronger foundation, smarter team and wider reach.

For those that do not understand why we drop vs sell, it is simple: there's a great chance that the name will still be available if we need it later. If I sell it, most likely it'll be held onto. If we drop, the re-pricing takes effect and the name sits on the premium list in case we need it later.

re: AC vs our other GEO
Our new GEO suits our needs much better and it's not even a contest which one I'd prefer to be part of going forward. There's no need to drop this one because our target market/audience is embracing our concept and we're happy with the model going forward. I'll even relocate if necessary.

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I think that you are failing to notice the REAL situation here.

A PREMIUM name ($5,000 according to Ahead) was FIRST registered in January 2010

That means some people are indeed BUYING Premiums.




(may I add, I'm NOT buying prems as a rule, although I did acquire a new one this week - however, I can see, if they have a solid plan, why people are still happy to purchase them)

true. I monitor the premium list and there is activity.

fyi, Ahead.tv is not always right. this one cost far more than the price listed above.

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I think that you are failing to notice the REAL situation here.

A PREMIUM name ($5,000 according to Ahead) was FIRST registered in January 2010

That means some people are indeed BUYING Premiums.




(may I add, I'm NOT buying prems as a rule, although I did acquire a new one this week - however, I can see, if they have a solid plan, why people are still happy to purchase them)

I wonder which one... there was an amazing one that dropped recently...

 

[Ammudamus]

I can't speak for Joel and his model, but a drop is a drop. Again, as has been mentioned thousands of times, just because a name drop doesn't mean the extension is dying or there is a 'major fallout.' It's exactly that; a drop. It may be an opportunity for someone else that can expand to obtain a great name for a reasonable price. Too much emotion goes into what other's do. Think about this way: If you create enough value on your asset (let's say it was a category killer) and it started generating enough income to offset renewal fees and other overhead, would you care if the another name in that category dropped? You would probably see it as an opportunity to grow your existing foundation.

Just my two cents for what it's worth.

A

 

[redbat]

I think that you are failing to notice the REAL situation here.

A PREMIUM name ($5,000 according to Ahead) was FIRST registered in January 2010

The new owner is an entity that has spent alot of money on premiums and lost alot of money dropping premiums.

As far as development, I don't consider a countdown clock to launch as development. When this individual has a launched DOT TV he can show, I'm all ears. But all I witnessed during my days lurking on this board is all talk, no action.

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A business model where you drop a domain where you claim you got six figure offers is not a business model. Even with a market correction, you could still unload a domain that got offers that high for a decent price.

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I usually won't reply to anonymous trolls,

OK. Care to share one site you operate.

 

[GoneWalkabout]

$5000 is $5000

That is one hell of a commitment.

I know of hundreds of 'developed' sites that cost a whole lot less.


Actually, can I add that if the owner has 'lost a lot of money on premiums', why on Earth would they be blindly buying more?


Those who have taken a hit (And there have been a few with premiums) tend to come on Namepros and slag .TV off.

NOT go buy even more expensive premiums!



I've dropped more names than I've kept. But anyone who has a garden will know that for every flower, you sometimes have to sow an awful lot of seeds.

 

[redbat]

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$5000 is $5000

That is one hell of a commitment.

I know of hundreds of 'developed' sites that cost whole lot less.

Fools Gold - especially if you regged tens of thousands in premiums and dropped 50% of them.

 

[freedom30]

The new owner is an entity that has spent alot of money on premiums and lost alot of money dropping premiums.

As far as development, I don't consider a countdown clock to launch as development. When this individual has a launched DOT TV he can show, I'm all ears. But all I witnessed during my days lurking on this board is all talk, no action.

Welcome to the board, redbat. We appreciate your input.

What interests you about the extension? Good or bad, what prompts you to break your lurk and actually introduce yourself to us "talkers", and what "action" would you be referring to? Something grandious, perchance?

 

[redbat]

Over the past 3 or 4 years we have witnessed many posters who have come and gone, claiming great news, big offers, grand development and so far - not much.

I thought we had moved beyond fantasy posts about grand DOT TV developments. I guess not.

Post developed sites. Not grand plans.

I would like the board to return to the nice flow we had before the trolls return.

 

[GoneWalkabout]

Actually. We are here to talk about Telefon.TV not inquire as to the assets and ambitions of individual members of the .TV thread.

My apologies for being drawn in to this by a 'new' (nameless, but very identifiable) member.

That's what killed the old discussion area.

I like it better, when we are simply sharing advice and ideas.

 

[redbat]

My apologies for being drawn in to this by a 'new' (nameless, but very identifiable) member..

No wild claims from a known entity got the thread off topic. Some many members must have flawed ESP. How many times have someone claimed they know a new poster only to be incorrect.

 

[MrRhee]

Actually. We are here to talk about Telefon.TV not inquire as to the assets and ambitions of individual members of the .TV thread.

My apologies for being drawn in to this by a 'new' (nameless, but very identifiable) member.

That's what killed the old discussion area.

I like it better, when we are simply sharing advice and ideas.

same old troll/loser as before. you can match up their choice of words with their other posts on this board and otherboards and identify them quite easily. it's a shame that they have to come back and pollute a productive discussion with their bitterness and negativity. misery loves company. I'll just choose to ignore them once again.

let's move this discussion to the private area.

 

[redbat]

I'm not the one "losing" money dropping premium DOT TV and then spending $5K regging more.

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I'll just choose to ignore them once again.

Whatever that means, I hope it means you can post without making wild claims that have zero basis in reality.

 

[MrRhee]

I'm not the one "losing" money dropping premium DOT TV and then spending $5K regging more.

such bitterness from anonymous trolls.

how do you know if anyone is losing money or not? LOL. perhaps you're speaking for yourself... but we're not in that category.

I like to focus my time & energy on building my business not tearing other people down. Maybe that's why you're so depressed and bitter. If you life sucks so much, then change it.

 

[GoneWalkabout]

Redbat

I still love you in the real world, but Namepros is not as toxic these days and bitter discussions about the validity/motives/wealth/accounts of a person is not good form.

WE actually help each other these days - and it works.

 

[redbat]

Then please teach me, a novice. Show me a single DOT TV you have developed and make money. I'm a simple newbie trying to keep the board clean and learn from people who have done it before me.

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Redbat

I still love you in the real world, but Namepros is not as toxic these days and bitter discussions about the validity/motives/wealth/accounts of a person is not good form.

WE actually help each other these days - and it works.

Agreed. Until the wild claim was made this afternoon. Post developed sites, not wild claims of six figure offers. Huge networks. Big dollars. Business Models. It was going fine until this guy opened his mouth with something that sounded like bragging.

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I have nothing to add. At least I'm smart enough not to post.

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And BTW if the other blowholes returned, I would have the same reaction.

 

[GoneWalkabout]

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