domain sew.in.net

[ahstanford]

I'm about to list this one for sale, but I'm interested to see what others think.

Average Monthly Searches: 1,020,520 (According to epik.com)

sew.co.uk sold for $16,100 USD on 2012-09-25 via Sedo. (According to estibot.com)

In addition, "sew in" is a popular term for applying hair extensions, which is a rapidly growing market in America.

 

[.NJ]

This extension is really just a subdomain that a private company is trying to sell.

I would stay far away from these type "subdomain" extensions.

You will just be burning your money if your thinking resell.

The most stellar keywords still hold $0 value unless you had some sort of development plan.

But then again, would actually want to develop a name in which you actually dont own?

 

[4pm]

I'm about to list this one for sale

that'd be a tough sale.. no value - the extension would devalue even much stronger keywords

i can see you regged a lot of .firm.in/org.in/net.in.. now adding in.net.. you probably don't want to hear this but those tlds should be completely avoided if you plan to resell

imho

 

[ahstanford]

This extension is really just a subdomain that a private company is trying to sell.

I would stay far away from these type "subdomain" extensions.

You will just be burning your money if your thinking resell.

The most stellar keywords still hold $0 value unless you had some sort of development plan.

But then again, would actually want to develop a name in which you actually dont own?

that'd be a tough sale.. no value - the extension would devalue even much stronger keywords

i can see you regged a lot of .firm.in/org.in/net.in.. now adding in.net.. you probably don't want to hear this but those tlds should be completely avoided if you plan to resell

imho

Thank you very much for the input, both of you.

How does a domain like .in.net differ from a domain like .co.uk in terms of private ownership?

 

[.NJ]

How does a domain like .in.net differ from a domain like .co.uk in terms of private ownership?

You recently purchased sew.in.net right?

So theoretically, you should now own the domain right?

Take a look: http://who.is/whois/sew.in.net

 

[omarte]

to be more specific , that's not a domain it's a subdomain !!
the real domain is in.net ! all xxx.in.net are just subdomains even if the owner call them domains and allow them to be registred ! there's a lot of diferrence between a domain and subdomain , you can't for example move sew.in.net to another registrar ! means you are not the real owner ! so like they said in above posts , just avoid them !!

 

[ahstanford]

You recently purchased sew.in.net right?

So theoretically, you should now own the domain right?

Take a look: http://who.is/whois/sew.in.net

to be more specific , that's not a domain it's a subdomain !!
the real domain is in.net ! all xxx.in.net are just subdomains even if the owner call them domains and allow them to be registred ! there's a lot of diferrence between a domain and subdomain , you can't for example move sew.in.net to another registrar ! means you are not the real owner ! so like they said in above posts , just avoid them !!

I understood these points from the first two posts. This still doesn't explain how .co.uk or .uk.com, for example, are any different?

Let's get the facts straight here first:

First of all: You can easily move sew.in.net to another registrar! I'm not sure where you got the idea that you can't. Currently the domain is registered at CheapoDomains.biz but can be easily transferred to Internet.bs, 101Domains.com, DomainKing.biz, DomainMonster.com, BigRock.com, http.net, mailclub.fr, etc, etc... LogicBoxes/ResellerClub are already offering .IN.NET, which opens up the door for slews of resellers to begin offering it as well. So, it most definitely is not impossible to move the domain to a different registrar, that's pure malarkey.

Moving on to the whois: If you have a look at the page you posted a link to, you'll see that it's not actually performing a whois request for sew.in.net. This is because the TLD is very new and the whois website doesn't yet recognize it as a TLD. You have effectively run a whois on .in.net, not sew.in.net. However, you can head over to http://domains.in.net/whois/?query=sew&output=nice and see that I do indeed "own" the domain.

Now that those quantitative issues are cleared up, let me move on to addressing the philosophical concerns:

I understand that the third-level domains throw people off and make them think of it as a "sub-domain", but really that's incorrect. Technically speaking, your favorite .com address is a sub-domain of .com, the top level domain. That's how the DNS system works. So, do you not "own" your favorite .com because you don't own the .com TLD? Technically, the answer is yes! In reality we are more domain "renters" than "owners", unless you operate a true top-level domain like .com or .net.

The .in.net TLD was launched less than two months ago by the Directi Group, whom is also responsible for bringing us the .pw TLD, among others. This isn't some fly-by-night guy with a .net domain trying to pretend to be a TLD, it's a real TLD as much as .us.com, .eu.com, .uk.com or .co.uk! Which leads me to my next point:

A lot of big companies have started using third-level (two-part) TLDs to get a short and more memorable web address. I think what we as domainers fail to realize is that an end-user doesn't think or care about "sub-domains" or "TLDs" when looking for a website -- they only care if it's a memorable address. For my own business I would certainly prefer sew.in.net over a longer name like awesomesewname.com, that's a no-brainer, but even over goodsewname.com or sewcompany.com I would take sew.in.net.

Lots of big organizations use third-level domains, here are a few I know of:

google.co.in
downtoearth.org.in
nest.net.in
kappa.net.in
isbn.net.in
olympic.ind.in
visa.ind.in
login.ind.in
rbi.org.in
coep.org.in
dte.org.in
usief.org.in
activia.us.com
avon.uk.com
sketch.uk.com
savills.us.com
wasabi.uk.com
lecreuset.us.com

Of all the third-level domains, .in.net is among my favorite. I'll explain why:

1. It reads as a play on words, like "in the internet" and thus works great for the American market.
2. These third-level domains are quickly gaining popularity and awareness in India, the world's third largest Internet population (behind only America and China)

In conclusion, I think the severe devaluing of top keyword domains in the third-level is unfounded. The general consensus around here that these are of no value seems to me like a knee-jerk reaction to the truly devaluing .coms due to all of the new TLDs that are here and coming. It's time to embrace the change, fellas!

I'd be happy to hold on to it and develop it, and I may very well do that, but I can't do it will all of my domains or I'd look like this guy -> So, I have to let some of these go. I intended to give the Namepros members first dibbs on it for very cheap, but I do have solid alternative methods of selling these, usually at a much better profit margins than I've asked for around this forum.

If I'm wrong about any of this I'll be happy to hear about it and appreciative of the opportunity to learn more, so please feel free to share anything I'm missing.

 

[omarte]

....
The .in.net TLD was launched less than two months ago by the Directi Group, whom is also responsible for bringing us the .pw TLD, among others. This isn't some fly-by-night guy with a .net domain trying to pretend to be a TLD, it's a real TLD as much as .us.com, .eu.com, .uk.com or .co.uk! Which leads me to my next point:

A lot of big companies have started using third-level (two-part) TLDs to get a short and more memorable web address. I think what we as domainers fail to realize is that an end-user doesn't think or care about "sub-domains" or "TLDs" when looking for a website -- they only care if it's a memorable address. For my own business I would certainly prefer sew.in.net over a longer name like awesomesewname.com, that's a no-brainer, but even over goodsewname.com or sewcompany.com I would take sew.in.net.

Lots of big companies use third-level domains, here are a few I know of:

google.co.in
downtoearth.org.in
nest.net.in
kappa.net.in
isbn.net.in
olympic.ind.in
visa.ind.in
login.ind.in
rbi.org.in
coep.org.in
dte.org.in
usief.org.in
activia.us.com
avon.uk.com
sketch.uk.com
savills.us.com
wasabi.uk.com
lecreuset.us.com

Of all the third-level domains, .in.net is among my favorite. I'll explain why:
...

There a lot of misunderstanding in your reply !!
ill explain again :
you can't compare in.net to net.in , net.in it's a country code second-level domain (ccSLD), while in.net its simply a domain name !!
(ccSLD) are used by country code top-level domain (ccTLD) to categorize the type of purpose of domains, example !
.co.uk for commercial purposes
ac.uk for academical purposes ! etc...
(gTld) dont use (ccSLD) since they're already categorized !!
.com for commercial purposes
.org organizations
.info for information etc ...
there's a lot to tell about this , all i want to do is explain to you that sew.in.net it's not a domain and it's totally different from sew.net.in !!
and about the whois you've checked that's not the Icann WHOIS , that's an internal whois inside in.net ! please check your whois domain at Godaddy , Dynadot, Name.com lookup, and you'll see the real owner ! in.net it's just a domain itself and it's registered under the registrar PublicDomainRegistry.com Lol !!
And about transferring sew.in.net, are you sure ? where did you read that ??? it's impossible i guarantee you !

I hope you get the difference between a domain using a (ccSLD) and a subdomain ! a lot of people are confused because theoretically they look the same ! but actually they are not!!

Thanks

 

[ahstanford]

There a lot of misunderstanding in your reply !!

Enlighten me!

ill explain again :

again?

you can't compare in.net to net.in , net.in it's a country code second-level domain (ccSLD), while in.net its simply a domain name !!
(ccSLD) are used by country code top-level domain (ccTLD) to categorize the type of purpose of domains, example !
.co.uk for commercial purposes
ac.uk for academical purposes ! etc...
(gTld) dont use (ccSLD) since they're already categorized !!
.com for commercial purposes
.org organizations
.info for information etc ...

I'm aware of this categorization, though I don't see how it solidifies your reasoning for devaluing the .in.net extension.

there's a lot to tell about this , all i want to do is explain to you that sew.in.net it's not a domain

Then what is it? Would that make mail.sew.in.net a sub-sub-domain? For all intents and purposes, sew.in.net is a functional domain name, not a sub-domain. I've set up an example of a sub-domain for you: http://namepros.sew.in.net/ As you can see, that is a sub-domain of the domain: http://sew.in.net/

and it's totally different from sew.net.in !!

I would hope so?

and about the whois you've checked that's not the Icann WHOIS , that's an internal whois inside in.net ! please check your whois domain at Godaddy , Dynadot, Name.com lookup, and you'll see the real owner ! in.net it's just a domain itself and it's registered under the registrar PublicDomainRegistry.com Lol !!

I understand what you're saying, but I fail to grasp the concern. (and humor?) My .mn domains also show PublicDomainRegistry.com as the registrar. You make it sound like this extension is not operated by an ICANN accredited registrar, but it is. The extension has no inherent drawbacks, and it's differences are unbeknownst to the end-user.

And about transferring sew.in.net, are you sure ? where did you read that ??? it's impossible i guarantee you !

They have adopted the ICANN transfer policies: http://domains.in.net/inter-registrar-transfer-policy/

You can go ahead and see that you can initiate a transfer, just type in sew.in.net here: http://www.101domain.com/domain_transfer.htm

You really shouldn't go around "guaranteeing" the "impossibility" of things which you aren't sure are actually impossible.

I hope you get the difference between a domain using a (ccSLD) and a subdomain ! a lot of people are confused because theoretically they look the same ! but actually they are not!!

I hope you get that the differences are unknown to the viewer of a website, irrelevant to the functionality of the domain for the registrant, and in my opinion, also irrelevant of it's value. The value of a domain should be determined more by it's potential traffic and memorability than it's technical upstream details, in my opinion.

Thanks

And thank you too for the reply.

 

[.NJ]

I dont want to go to off topic and will try to stay on track with the original theme here of "value".

[*] It reads as a play on words, like "in the internet" and thus works great for the American market.
[*] These third-level domains are quickly gaining popularity and awareness in India, the world's third largest Internet population (behind only America and China)

This type of thinking will only burn holes in your pocket if your not careful.

I understand your logic, and Im not faulting your creativity at all, but you have to look at the past and current stats of these "third level", "sub-domains" or whatever we want to call them.

The history of these "type" names have been complete train wrecks when it comes to obtaining value or reselling.

This still doesn't explain how .co.uk or .uk.com, for example, are any different?

When it come to "value" which was the original topic, there is an enormous difference.

Here are some past sale examples:
Beer.uk.com $222 via Sedo
Antiques.uk.com $198 via Sedo
Women.uk.com $249 via Sedo

These are 3 examples of only about 6 actual recorded sales with this extension.


These are stellar keywords that would sell for well over 50 times and the amount in the .co.uk extension. Thats the difference there. These extensions you are referring to have no history or relevance when it comes to sustained value or resell.

I think what we as domainers fail to realize is that an end-user doesn't think or care about "sub-domains" or "TLDs" when looking for a website

I disagree here. People or "end-users" tend to stick with what they know, .com, .net, org ect......

Just ask anyone outside the industry (or even some inside) what they think about .in.net?

99% will have no idea what you are talking about. The only thing they will recognize is the ".net" aspect.

Why? Because that's what they know, trust and recognize.

Now, having a brandable development idea for the extension and business plan is different then just stand alone value.

But what we are talking about here is just "stand alone" value as-is.

And there is no history or past sales to generate any value at this time.

Again this is just my 2 cents.

 

[ahstanford]

I dont want to go to off topic and will try to stay on track with the original theme here of "value".



This type of thinking will only burn holes in your pocket if your not careful.

I understand your logic, and Im not faulting your creativity at all, but you have to look at the past and current stats of these "third level", "sub-domains" or whatever we want to call them.

The history of these "type" names have been complete train wrecks when it comes to obtaining value or reselling.



When it come to "value" which was the original topic, there is an enormous difference.

Here are some past sale examples:
Beer.uk.com $222 via Sedo
Antiques.uk.com $198 via Sedo
Women.uk.com $249 via Sedo

These are 3 examples of only about 6 actual recorded sales with this extension.


These are stellar keywords that would sell for well over 50 times and the amount in the .co.uk extension. Thats the difference there. These extensions you are referring to have no history or relevance when it comes to sustained value or resell.



I disagree here. People or "end-users" tend to stick with what they know, .com, .net, org ect......

Just ask anyone outside the industry (or even some inside) what they think about .in.net?

99% will have no idea what you are talking about. The only thing they will recognize is the ".net" aspect.

Why? Because that's what they know, trust and recognize.

Now, having a brandable development idea for the extension and business plan is different then just stand alone value.

But what we are talking about here is just "stand alone" value as-is.

And there is no history or past sales to generate any value at this time.

Again this is just my 2 cents.

Great reply. Thank you for this, it really helps me to better understand why there is no perceived value at this time.

I disagree here. People or "end-users" tend to stick with what they know, .com, .net, org ect......

Just ask anyone outside the industry (or even some inside) what they think about .in.net?

99% will have no idea what you are talking about. The only thing they will recognize is the ".net" aspect.

Why? Because that's what they know, trust and recognize.

I may not have been clear enough there. I realize most end-users aren't yet familiar with the various non-com/net/org TLDs. (That's sure to change over time, imho, but I'm not arguing the current state of that.) What I meant to say is that the visitors will not be concerned with the differences/caveats between, for example, .in.net and .net.in, as the gentleman above implies. In other words, for the visitors, I don't think there is a functional or impacting difference between .in.net and extensions like .net.in or .eu.com. That's why I put "sub-domains" and "TLDs" in quotes, to refer to omarte's concerns as to whether .in.net domains are just a sub-domain in the .net spectrum, or an actual domain on the .in.net extension, which I think begets no concern from a visitor.

 

[m-i-k-e]

I may not have been clear enough there. I realize most end-users aren't yet familiar with the various non-com/net/org TLDs. (That's sure to change over time, imho, but I'm not arguing the current state of that.) What I meant to say is that the end-user (visitor) will not be concerned with the differences/caveats between, for example, .in.net and .net.in, as the gentleman above implies. In other words, for the end-user and registrant, I don't think there is a functional or impacting difference between .in.net and extensions like .net.in or .eu.com.

Putting everything else aside, in.net and .net.in are similar in that they don't have any resller value.

As for endusers, you are using the term in a different context than others on this board. Anybody else referring to endusers will be referring to the company that ends up building a business presence on the domain. .net.in 'domains' don't have endusers willing to spend any money on them.

 

[ahstanford]

As for endusers, you are using the term in a different context than others on this board. Anybody else referring to endusers will be referring to the company that ends up building a business presence on the domain.

Yes, I thought that might cause some confusion. I had specified visitors in parenthesis for clarity, but I've now edited the post to use the words visitor and registrant. Seems a bit confusing that what we call end-users actually have their own end-users, and some domainers are themselves end-users by this definition (myself included, as a developer too), but as long as we all understand each other it doesn't much matter.

.net.in 'domains' don't have endusers willing to spend any money on them.

So, .net.in domains aren't real domains either now? Saying that they have no reseller valuable is an entirely acceptable position, but this pervasive and unfounded idea that they aren't real domains is a bit disturbing. I can only assume you're implying this by wrapping the word domain in single quotes (') ...

 

[omarte]

Enlighten me!


again?

Sorry if you feel offended , that's not what i want ! anyway ill try to explain what i want to say again , point by point !

I'm aware of this categorization, though I don't see how it solidifies your reasoning for devaluing the .in.net extension.

Well that's very reasonable, from a realistic view to all end-users and internet users ! ( i'm not talking theoretically because eveything can be done, you only must have some big $ to do it ! )

Then what is it? Would that make mail.sew.in.net a sub-sub-domain? For all intents and purposes, sew.in.net is a functional domain name, not a sub-domain. I've set up an example of a sub-domain for you: http://namepros.sew.in.net/ As you can see, that is a sub-domain of the domain: http://sew.in.net/

If we gonna follow this way ,we will never agree over a definition to what a subdomain is !! sew.in.net it's an extension and we could create a domain using it http://domain.sew.in.net, why not create a http://newdomain.domain.sew.in.net etc...
im trying to be realistic , like ive said before !

I would hope so?

from this point of view , i can say yes 100/100 !

I understand what you're saying, but I fail to grasp the concern. (and humor?) You make it sound like this extension is not operated by an ICANN accredited registrar, but it is. The extension has no inherent drawbacks, and it's differences are unbeknownst to the end-user.

you didnt reply about the whois, and i'll say it again : yes this extension it's not managed by an accredited registrar which is "radix" check the list http://www.icann.org/registrar-reports/accredited-list.html !

They have adopted the ICANN transfer policies: http://domains.in.net/inter-registrar-transfer-policy/

You can go ahead and see that you can initiate a transfer, just type in sew.in.net here: http://www.101domain.com/domain_transfer.htm

You really shouldn't go around "guaranteeing" the "impossibility" of things which you aren't sure are actually impossible.



I hope you get that the differences are unknown to the viewer of a website, irrelevant to the functionality of the domain for the registrant, and in my opinion, also irrelevant of it's value. The value of a domain should be determined more by it's potential traffic and memorability than it's technical upstream details, in my opinion.

about the transfer i'm not saying that's it's impossible !
i'm talking abou the well-known registrars for internet users( godaddy, name.com, dynadot, enom, register, namecheap ...) etc
and the fact that in.net are offered to register by an accredited registrar doesnt mean that the site "registrar" who operates this "extension" is accredited !!! i can do that with a 2 letters domain but it's not in my goals at the moment !!

thanks

 

[m-i-k-e]

So, .net.in domains aren't real domains either now? Saying that they have no reseller valuable is an entirely acceptable position, but this pervasive and unfounded idea that they aren't real domains is a bit disturbing. I can only assume you're implying this by wrapping the word domain in single quotes (') ...

I meant that sentence for .in.net instead of .net.in, typo on my part.

It doesn't matter though, the appraisal for either would still be zero, there is no reseller value there.

 

[ahstanford]

I'll reply to the portions of your post which I'm able to comprehend.

Sorry if you feel offended

I'm not offended, I just question the validity of your statements.

you didnt reply about the whois, and i'll say it again : yes this extension it's not managed by an accredited registrar which is "radix" check the list http://www.icann.org/registrar-reports/accredited-list.html !

Radix is a business division of the Directi Group ( http://www.directi.com ) You can see that other domains from the same people can be whois'd from wherever. ( http://whois.domaintools.com/visa.uk.com for example) However, .in.net is less than 2 months old and probably hasn't yet gotten enough awareness from the major whois websites to recognize it. I imagine that will change.

about the transfer i'm not saying that's it's impossible !

Uhm, okay.

i'm talking abou the well-known registrars for internet users( godaddy, name.com, dynadot, enom, register, namecheap ...) etc

So you don't think 101Domains, LogicBoxes (powers hundreds of registrars), ResellerClub (powers hundreds of resellers) are well-known? I beg to differ.

and the fact that in.net are offered to register by an accredited registrar doesnt mean that the site "registrar" who operates this "extension" is accredited !!! i can do that with a 2 letters domain but it's not in my goals at the moment !!

You seem to have confused registrar with registry. A .in.net registry would be accredited by CentralNIC whom handles this for many extensions. (some of which you seem to think are somehow different from .in.net... https://www.centralnic.com/portfolio/domains/registration ) However, all of the registrars I've seen offering .in.net domains are ICANN accredited. This indicates to me a fair amount of assurance that I'm registering a domain with a legitimate source, not leasing a sub-domain from Joe Blow.

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I meant that sentence for .in.net instead of .net.in, typo on my part.

It doesn't matter though, the appraisal for either would still be zero, there is no reseller value there.

Well, the implication that .in.net is any less of a real 'domain' is just as questionable to me.

 

[m-i-k-e]

Centralnic is an independent company who has created subdomains for resale that appear to some to be TLD's, but there is a difference.

VeriSign is the ICANN accredited registry that runs .net

The domain name in.net gets registered by a separate company who creates their own 'registry' to sell subdomains of the domain name in.net

.in is the ccTLD assigned to India the registry that manages .in has made .in domains available, they have also broken down the tld to offer .co.in, .org.in, .net.in etc.. but as far as I know they are all owned and managed by the .in registry.

 

[ahstanford]

Centralnic is an independent company who has created subdomains for resale that appear to some to be TLD's, but there is a difference.

VeriSign is the ICANN accredited registry that runs .net

The domain name in.net gets registered by a separate company who creates their own 'registry' to sell subdomains of the domain name in.net

.in is the ccTLD assigned to India the registry that manages .in has made .in domains available, they have also broken down the tld to offer .co.in, .org.in, .net.in etc.. but as far as I know they are all owned and managed by the .in registry.

That's all true, however, I don't see how it matters much so long as both sources (CentralNIC and VeriSign in this case) are reputable. Technically speaking, the variants (.net.in, .in.net and even .co.uk) are the same level domains, it's only a matter of ownership. I know you didn't state that it matters in terms of value, but I believe omarte did.

 

[omarte]

Radix is a business division of the Directi Group ( http://www.directi.com ) You can see that other domains from the same people can be whois'd from wherever. ( http://whois.domaintools.com/visa.uk.com for example) However, .in.net is less than 2 months old and probably hasn't yet gotten enough awareness from the major whois websites to recognize it. I imagine that will change.

ive mention that, but still i see the same whois for all subdomains "domains" of in.net, first think asked in every domain transaction is the whois verification !! anyway

Uhm, okay.

ill be more specific , when ive said its impossible i meant , to transfer it to the most of registrars (especially the well known) see my reply below !
when you say to someone you're mad (completely crazy) because of something he said doesnt mean that's tru ! that' how i use it (it's just a metaphor) !

So you don't think 101Domains, LogicBoxes (powers hundreds of registrars), ResellerClub (powers hundreds of resellers) are well-known? I beg to differ.

So if these registrars are well-known what we should say about Enom, NETWORK SOLUTIONS , WILD WEST DOMAINS and tucows and Godaddy who owns more than 30% of the market share !???

You seem to have confused registrar with registry. A .in.net registry would be accredited by CentralNIC whom handles this for many extensions. (some of which you seem to think are somehow different from .in.net... https://www.centralnic.com/portfolio/domains/registration ) However, all of the registrars I've seen offering .in.net domains are ICANN accredited. This indicates to me a fair amount of assurance that I'm registering a domain with a legitimate source, not leasing a sub-domain from Joe Blow.

i'm not confusing registrar with registry , what that has to do with this ?
This answer has nothing to do with the subject , please stay specific ! the registrar who manage .in.net it's not accredited neither the company mother directi group ,i'm i right ?!!!

 

[ahstanford]

ive mention that, but still i see the same whois for all subdomains "domains" of in.net, first think asked in every domain transaction is the whois verification !! anyway

The reason you see the same thing is because your whois is checking in.net, not the domain you enter, because the whois website is unaware that .in.net is now used as a TLD and chops off what it perceives as a sub-domain before running the query. (Acceptably so, considering the TLD is less than 2 months old.) This is easily evident from the very links you posted earlier in the thread. However, it would be naive to take this to mean that this new TLD is actually a sub-domain when there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary. It's quite clear that this is a new TLD offered by a registry, (albeit not an ICANN accredited registry) and not just a sub-domain of some website. Have you no understanding of how DNS works? You're essentially saying that all of the domains on .co.uk or .us.com or .uk.com are sub-domains, because they are technically identical to .in.net. Under your definition, ebay.com is just a sub-domain of .com. In reality, that's technically true, but by common convention that is clearly not how we think of it.

ill be more specific , when ive its impossible i meant , to transfer it to the most of registrars (especially the well known) see my reply below !
when you say to someone you're mad (completely crazy) because of something he said doesnt mean that's tru ! that' how i use it (it's just a metaphor) !

Uhm, okay.

So if these registrars are well-known what we should say about Enom, NETWORK SOLUTIONS , WILD WEST DOMAINS and tucows and Godaddy, who owns more than 30% of the market share !??? lol

You would say that they are the most popular and prominent registrars around. Certainly not the only well-known registrars, that's a ludicrous claim. How much market share does LogicBoxes/ResellerClub (over 100+ Registrars and 100,000+ Resellers) have? I have no idea, but I'm willing to bet it's a whole lot.

i'm not confusing registrar with registry , what that has to do with this ?
This answer has nothing to do with the subject , please stay specific ! the registrar who manage .in.net it's not accredited neither the company mother directi group ,i'm i right ?!!!

As I understand it, registrars don't manage TLDs, they handle registrations of domains through a registry who manages the TLD. in.net domains can be registered through ICANN accredited registrars, such as 101Domain.com.

At this point we're just spinning wheels. I'm not sure what your point is. If your point is that .in.net is not owned by the same registry as .net, and that .in.net is so new it's not yet recognized by some major whois/registrar sites, then I would agree with you.