available Several all-premium-letter LLL.in drops

[Alan Glennon]

Check the end of the thread for the latest LLL.in drops. Current full available lists are posted intermittently by members, and the most current would be toward the end of the thread also. Otherwise, user Chandan often has an updated available list on his external site, here: Available LLL.in Domains list - Indian Blogs


(original May 3, 2007 post follows: )
It was a big day for all-premium-letter-combo LLL.in drops. Other than these, all LLL.in composed only of ABCDEFGHILMNOPRST (no jkquvwxyz) have been entirely regged for over a month. Please post as you grab them, so people won't have to look twice:

(Update: All regged.)

baa.IN
cbd.IN
chn.IN
cpe.IN
dbp.IN
ecn.IN
eff.IN
grt.IN
isc.IN
loo.IN
nee.IN
ppn.IN
rcn.IN
sdc.IN
slr.IN
sns.IN
snt.IN

 

[italiandragon]

I have better sale status. Lowest price I sold was $30 for premium LLL.IN
Mean could be $40

hello....can someone teach me what is the difference in the meaning in English between the words:


"median" and "mean" (I know what "median" means but I also know "mean" meant "bad".....obviously not in this case.....and obviously it`s not the present verb "to mean".....so what does it mean? Thanks

 

[dhscott]

Mean = Average

 

[champ_rock]

Median: The median is the middle of a distribution: half the scores are above the median and half are below the median
That is a median divides the area into exactly two parts.

Mean: Is the average as u know.

Hope that clears things up

 

[malibumobile]

Good thing we didn't start talking about the "mode"

 

[champ_rock]

better stil that we did not talk about Standard Deviation which is the main criteria which should ideally be applied when judging the general price levels

we can talk abt mean absolute deviation, SD, Standard Normal Variate etc etc..

 

[gmtfan]

Are they all PREMIUM LETTER DOT IN? :hehe:

I got TRN
I think proer got BAF

 

[malibumobile]

picked up ...
SIF.CO.IN
TEN.CO.IN

 

[gmtfan]

picked up ...
SIF.CO.IN
TEN.CO.IN

Nice! I don't like CO.IN very much but I like ten.co.in

YQA.IN available now: Your Question Answered (same meaning of FAQ)

 

[proer]

... AND YAI.in available

 

[mwzd]

I have been looking at http://www.inregistry.in/policies/dispute_resolution/dispute_decisions/

Is this the reason , why people are registering and selling quickly?

Read this -
http://www.inregistry.in/policies/advisory_la01

More likely to be the reason.

I wouldn't call the resolutions for web.in, kbb.in, isp.in, or hotels.in legitimate. Nevertheless, I believe no defense was given for any of those domains -- so, they were awarded to the complainant.

I think kbb.in was a legitimate resolution - specially since the person picked up content from the kbb.com site and tried to pass of this as an extension of their business.

web.in - domain is frozen - so it could be 'Domain confiscated by Registry', just like internet.in, isp.in and business.in

Hotels.in is a travesty, but if you don't defend your rights why would someone else? It's especially painful to note that the complainant in this case was a Registrar themselves who really have no business owning similar names, in fact the site used to defend their claim is a joke and if you ever get a hotel booking from that I'll be surprised.

The funniest case is rediff.in - the registrant actually tried to pass this off as a combination of red and iff, both dictionary words.

The best decision, in my book, was for computer.in, where they not only denied the complaint but fined the complainant!

How the hell can someone claim ownership on a generic domain based on a available copyright for an internet/computer unrelated product is beyond me.

 

[Alan Glennon]

I think kbb.in was a legitimate resolution - specially since the person picked up content from the kbb.com site and tried to pass of this as an extension of their business.

I might have misstated my opinion. The resolutions appear legitimate -- the complaints are a mix.

Concerning kbb.in, I overlooked (forgot) about the fact that kbb was overltly trying to pass itself off as Kelly Blue Book. As such, the resolution seems fair. In general, it seems that the India resolutions are as fair, if not more so, than standard UDRP.

 

[malibumobile]

mwzd - While I think its important to point that link out - its not a concern.

The focus is on REGISTRARs not the REGISTRANTs.
Basically the .in registry doesnt want REGISTRARS "shelving" domains to be sold later on for a higher price than registration fee.

 

[dnk]

In one of the resolutions, it is specifically mentioned that the registrant (not a registrar) has hoarded the domains only for reselling and has no connection with India. I suppose that is why the resale market value for .in domains will not be high, only end user prices may rise.

I got an offer for a .in domain which I will be developing soon, so I quoted a high price and the buyer responded "please justify" and made another low price offer. Is this a normal practice ?

 

[BatmanClip]

seems to be .in domains are owning the Domain market. i only got WRO.in. unfortunatly i dont have any premiuum domain.

 

[Alan Glennon]

According to the INDRP, the complainant has to provide all three of these:
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1. the manner in which the domain name in question is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark or service mark in which the Complainant has rights; and

2. why the Respondent should be considered as having no rights or legitimate interests in respect of the domain name that is the subject of the Complaint; and

3. why the domain name in question should be considered as having been registered and being used in bad faith.
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Seems fair enough. As written, I think the .in rules are quite conducive to the international trading market. In fact, their respect for trade and service mark rights is a facilitator, not an obstacle, to higher values.

Concerning your negotiation---
Outside of the domainer community, there is no normal practice for domain negotiations for any tld. When I am negotiating for a domain, I sometimes ask "why" too -- in a few cases, the justification uncovers something I missed.

In one of the resolutions, it is specifically mentioned that the registrant (not a registrar) has hoarded the domains only for reselling and has no connection with India. I suppose that is why the resale market value for .in domains will not be high, only end user prices may rise.

I got an offer for a .in domain which I will be developing soon, so I quoted a high price and the buyer responded "please justify" and made another low price offer. Is this a normal practice ?

 

[mwzd]

mwzd - While I think its important to point that link out - its not a concern.

The focus is on REGISTRARs not the REGISTRANTs.
Basically the .in registry doesnt want REGISTRARS "shelving" domains to be sold later on for a higher price than registration fee.

I think we need to agree to disagree on this.

It holds true for all registrars, as well as their resellers. Which would then include all registrants under that registrar and/or reseller. But this of course is open to interpretation.

Seems fair enough. As written, I think the .in rules are quite conducive to the international trading market. In fact, their respect for trade and service mark rights is a facilitator, not an obstacle, to higher values.

That's the whole problem, while it seems fair enough, booking a domain for parking and/or resale is not considered a good faith booking by INDRP, as against UDRP. Though why this should be so is beyond me, I'm meeting my lawyer this week about this and will update if you guys are interested.

The worst bit is that someone could book a trademark for unrelated items (or buy existing tms) and then claim your generic domain based on this, if they can prove prior IPR.

 

[Alan Glennon]

Thanks to all for the comments and discussion about .in. I think it is quite helpful to have such discussions, and share each others' insights.

Right -- I would say that parking and resale is generally seen as bad faith by the UDRP too -- though much less overtly than the INDRPs. In any tld, your best and most-valuable domains will be at risk from others that want them. Work to protect them in proportion to their value.

Personally, I am careful to not purchase trademarked .in names. I do own two very generic domains (types of animals) that happen to have Indian product trademarks. The two domains are not parked or offered for resale. I have developed them into sites which are active and clearly distinct from the trademark's use. If someone registers a trademark for one of my existing generic domains, I will have to dispute it.

That's the whole problem, while it seems fair enough, booking a domain for parking and/or resale is not considered a good faith booking by INDRP, as against UDRP. Though why this should be so is beyond me, I'm meeting my lawyer this week about this and will update if you guys are interested.

The worst bit is that someone could book a trademark for unrelated items (or buy existing tms) and then claim your generic domain based on this, if they can prove prior IPR.

 

[dnk]

If you register a domain name are you expected to develop it immediately? Based on this discussion it seems better to own low value domains which will not attract the wrong kind of attention or develop good domains immediately .

 

[.jd.]

If you register a domain name are you expected to develop it immediately? Based on this discussion it seems better to own low value domains which will not attract the wrong kind of attention or develop good domains immediately .

This is just for a .in domain, people freaking out cuase of other country's TM's etc... Just watch what you register, and how you use it .

 

[Alan Glennon]

You'll need to develop your own business model that considers your tolerance for risk. Basic economics are at play in the relationship of risk and yield.

Development could be as easy as a page that says:
"Coming soon! A site all about the game of football, here at football.in!" (note: I do not own football.in)

If you register a domain name are you expected to develop it immediately? Based on this discussion it seems better to own low value domains which will not attract the wrong kind of attention or develop good domains immediately .