domain Selling Portfolio - Worth My Asking Price? - rentit.co.uk

[internetheaven]

I have 325 domain names such as:

noclaimsbonus.co.uk
rentit.co.uk
rentme.co.uk
50insurance.com
easyborrowing.com
noclaimsdiscount.com
insuringyourcar.co.uk
insuringyourhealth.co.uk
insuringyourhome.co.uk
insuringyourpet.net
insuringyourtravel.co.uk
asow.com
q29.com
loans-4.com
only-finance.co.uk
yourcredithistory.co.uk
yourhd.tv
etc.

each with variants e.g. q29.com comes with q29.net, q29.co.uk plus several others. noclaimsbonus.co.uk comes with noclaimbonus.co.uk, noclaimbonus.com, noclaimbonus.net, noclaimsbonus.net etc.

I'm looking for £150 per domain i.e. £48,750 for the list as a whole. These days, what value does a "good" portfolio go for and could my domains be classed as a "good" portfolio?

Thanks
Mike

 

[MicroGuy]

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In my opinion, you should just delete these domains from your account and drift off into the sunset in search of enlightenment. Good luck.

 

[JB Lions]

Well the etc. part is very important. Can't give an appraisal on a portfolio, without actually seeing all the names in that portfolio. There's a couple obvious ones where you can sell for something:

asow.com xx+
q29.com - low to mid xxx minimum

 

[internetheaven]

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In my opinion, you should just delete these domains from your account and drift off into the sunset in search of enlightenment. Good luck.

Then I guess I'm lucky there are so many less "enlightened" people in the world. £1500 offered for rentme.co.uk just a couple of weeks ago. £1000 offered for asow.com last month. £5000 offered for noclaimsbonus.co.uk this week.

I'm probably going to accept those offers, and I've been selling off my domains for years now and up to this month, I had never sold a domain for less than £4000.

I was considering selling my portfolio for £150 per domain to move it on at a sort of "stock" price so that I was freed up to work more in my new children's media company.

Being told that they are not even worth keeping and should be deleted, either means you don't know what you're talking about, or I don't. My website/domain credentials span 11 years and over £1million in actual profit. As a domain "valuer" -- what actual sales have you performed?

 

[.NJ]

If these are a preview of what the rest of your portfolio looks like, then your looking at some major pricing issues.

You will have trouble selling most at reg-fee IMO.

As mentioned by JB Lions, you only have 2 names in this bunch worth even mentioning for value.

I agree with the appraisal by JB, but even those values wouldn't be guaranteed in todays market.

If you post a link with the full list we could take a closer look.

 

[johname]

Accept those offers and dont think about selling the portfolio as a whole. People only want to cherry pick it. Goodluck

 

[DU]

Being told that they are not even worth keeping and should be deleted, either means you don't know what you're talking about, or I don't. My website/domain credentials span 11 years and over £1million in actual profit. As a domain "valuer" -- what actual sales have you performed?

Some may be worth something..

Rentme.co.uk isn't bad. NoClaimsBonus.co.uk is pretty decent (not really a US term so I am not surprised that MG would overlook it) and is easily the best of the bunch being solid term in a highly competitive industry with this being a market differentiator.

ASOW.com is a better than average LLLL and Q29 is a CCC which I found out were worth $xxx ... neither is going to get a huge sale on a reseller forum where LLLL regularly are picked up at various locations for < $100. I like it for A Statement of Work...

But other forms of appraisal are available:

http://www.namepros.com/cctld-domains-for-sale/645197-yourhdtv-co-uk-others-similar.html

http://www.namepros.com/domains-for...6-insuringyourcar-co-uk-plus.html#post3827823

Never sold below 4000 quid even though you were accepting 500.

Johname is right though. Weed out the decent ones, sell those for 4000 a pop and then drop the rest or sell for next to nothing ...

The insuring... names aren't business high value names. They're the kind of names that people build traffic on, get ranked, and sell (or try) on flippa. That is SITES vs NAMES.

If you have a million in profit why the need to sell ? I know taxes are high in UK.. but still.

 

[internetheaven]

Accept those offers and dont think about selling the portfolio as a whole. People only want to cherry pick it. Goodluck

That is the impression I'm getting. I assumed that a domainer would be interested in turning these around, but most domainers seem to want to spend £10 to make £100. I've mainly been buying £1000-£5000 domains, building sites on them for a few hundred and selling them for £20,000-£75,000.

I think I have approached domaining quite differently to the general namepros domainer which I why what I'm saying is not going down so well.

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If you have a million in profit why the need to sell ? I know taxes are high in UK.. but still.

Like I said, I've been doing this 11 years. Over 11 years and living in Edinburgh, I make a good living, but only enough for me to fund a sideline business startup which is what I'm moving to now and why I'm selling off the rest of my portfolio.

I made around £140,000 a year, which is just over £90,000 after taxes. Rent/mortgage in Edinburgh is around £15000 a year alone. Throw in a wife, kids and medical expenses (we have the NHS here so you have to pay if you have something too expensive to treat) and you don't walk away with much at the end of the year.

The £1million wasn't to boast my success or riches! The £1million was to indicate that I've performed actual on-the-ground sales ... whilst the person telling me my stock was worthless seems to get paid to value things (or they do it as a hobby?). It just felt like a real-estate office receptionist telling a property developer that a piece of land is worthless.

 

[DU]

I've mainly been buying £1000-£5000 domains, building sites on them for a few hundred and selling them for £20,000-£75,000.

1) I assume that most of the names listed/held in your portfolio clearance are not of this type because you'd be selling at a loss of 800 squids a name which would be close to 200 large.

2) I'd streamline that business!

You're making an average of 90K net revenue building roughly 3-5 sites a year (It seems)... why not hire people, employ your methods and build 10-15 sites a year? Even at top whack your names are way below your resale value.

Something seems off with what you're trying to do unless the site building is nearly all your value in which case you would need to accept that and the low valuation. Again.. pick the good ones and sell them at value and ignore the chaff that has purely potential value - or dump those at 10 a go for $100 or something.

Most people here won't pay for a .co.uk (because of the stupid belief that .com is king). Some people may be wary to over invest with the recent noco .uk announcement.

MG values based on his own rules.

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I made around £140,000 a year, which is just over £90,000 after taxes. Rent/mortgage in Edinburgh is around £15000 a year alone. Throw in a wife, kids and medical expenses (we have the NHS here so you have to pay if you have something too expensive to treat) and you don't walk away with much at the end of the year.

I recommend seeing an accountant if that's the case.

 

[MicroGuy]

You will have trouble selling most at reg-fee IMO.

This is one of the most accurate statements in this entire thread. :great:

 

[internetheaven]

This is one of the most accurate statements in this entire thread. :great:

Yeah, yeah ... clever you ...

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I recommend seeing an accountant if that's the case.

I have one. This is just how the UK is. Self employed people are taxed to death whilst people making money from investments (i.e. the already rich) pay practically nothing.

We also need to move to a private healthcare model. I don't think that people with cancer should be denied treatment just because all the money has been spent on injuries from drunken nights out. (that is a statistically accurate statement, not a random rant)

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I assume that most of the names listed/held in your portfolio clearance are not of this type because you'd be selling at a loss of 800 squids a name which would be close to 200 large.

yes, several of these cost me £xxxx over the past decade when domaining was HOT. I have to accept an overall loss to get out at this point. I realise that and am accepting it.

The only domains I am keeping are for a term that is not popular yet, but will be in two years time. I spent £61,000 collecting 73 of them and that is all I would get back for them now.

 

[DU]

I have one. This is just how the UK is. Self employed people are taxed to death whilst people making money from investments (i.e. the already rich) pay practically nothing.

Get a better one

We also need to move to a private healthcare model. I don't think that people with cancer should be denied treatment just because all the money has been spent on injuries from drunken nights out. (that is a statistically accurate statement, not a random rant)

You can already get private healthcare if you want, it's a choice you have to make though. Most people choose not to because it's expensive when not covered through employer..and you don't anticipate bad things to happen.

Quelle surprise.

Anyway, private healthcare doesn't removes the reality that in the real world the equation Income > Expense needs to hold - whether private or government. The world needs a model that lowers the expense. Won't even get into private healthcare eff ups that get dumped on the NHS.

yes, several of these cost me £xxxx over the past decade when domaining was HOT. I have to accept an overall loss to get out at this point. I realise that and am accepting it.

The only domains I am keeping are for a term that is not popular yet, but will be in two years time. I spent £61,000 collecting 73 of them and that is all I would get back for them now.

At least you'll have a loss write off.

All that aside - better to spend some effort on the better names rather than throwing them into a big bric-a-brac and hoping you get a charitable scrounger.

Good luck whatever you do.

 

[Sabre]

Then I guess I'm lucky there are so many less "enlightened" people in the world. £1500 offered for rentme.co.uk just a couple of weeks ago. £1000 offered for asow.com last month. £5000 offered for noclaimsbonus.co.uk this week.

£1500 for rentme.co.uk = a good price. Take it.
£1000 for asow.com = an excellent price. Take it.

£5000 for noclaimsbonus.co.uk

Now, this is a more interesting one. I would imagine you could get more for this if you targeted some UK end users, particularly large insurance companies. I would personally tell the person that has offered £5000 that you will consider a higher £xxxx offer and then spend the next week seeing if you can find a quick end user sale. Don't forget to pick up the phone and find some direct contact numbers.

If you can't find another end user before the current 'buyer' loses interest, you can sell to them for the mid to high £xxxx range. I would imagine you could find someone willing to pay £10k odd for this though. Insurance companies tend to have relatively deep pockets (I know this through experience) so you should find an open and willing market for your domain.

Out of your other domains;

Noclaimsdiscount.com as above
Rentit.co.uk I would hold out for £2000-£4000 on this one if you are getting offers for £1500 for 'rent me'
Yourcredithistory.co.uk - mid £xxx
q29.co.uk - low £xxx, more if you are lucky

The rest I wouldn't have personally registered.