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I made a layout for a member of this forum. His username was "Posting". His account has now been suspended and he has a -1 trader rating, which he did not have on 7/29/05.
Here is his post http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=110987
As you can see I had sent him a PM, and contacted him on AIM. He chose me, and I asked for a down payment. He insisted that he would pay me once I finished the web layout, but I said I wanted down payment for scamming reasons. I really wanted the job, and he didn't feel comfortable paying, so I made him type to me on AIM that he would pay for the final copy. The layout was a hosting layout, and it was for $100 dollars.
Here is the "contract" he said to me on AIM.
Drewpat11 (12:05:59 AM): I drewpat11 will send money once project is completed, or once i see a full through mock up that i find good enough. once i received a watermarked version of the layout i will send half payment, then once i receive the layout, i will send the other half of the payment at a total of $100.
scmarco10 (12:06:45 AM): I approve of this on 7/31/2005
It even has the timestamp to show it.
Ok so when I finished the layout he loved it. I asked for payment and he said his paypal wasn't ready. (They had to confirm his bank). I started to be wary and wonder why he would do business with a un-opened paypal account. Anyway he re-assured me it would be open by wed. Problem was I left for San diego california on wed. So I told him he would have to wait until August 15th, when I would return, to get the full version. He said alright, no problem. When in San Diego I was in an Apple store and he confirmed with me his paypal was
accepted and he could send me the money when I returned.
So I return August 15th, and I gave him my paypal address and he said he would send half the money over. I waited, and Imed him if he had sent it and he signed off. I thought he would return but I thought wrong. So I gave it 2 days and he never signed on, so my brother checked his screename and sure enough he was on. My brother calmly IMED him and once again, he blocked him too. I have his AIM and Email, but something tells me he won't email me back so I wont try. Right now I only have proof that he should be paying me because he said it. But I think he might have saved my watermarked version (thank god I watermarked it) and may have someone re-create it.
If he dosen't re-create it what are my options? How can I get my money for my wasted time? (Please don't IM him harassing him, as it makes me look bad).
If he does re-create my layout, what are my options? There is easily proof there that he stole it, because it was first created by me and I have the .psd.
This is the second time this has happened, and its the second time I fell into this game. It happened with a another hosting layout with volo networks. I have indeed finally learned my lesson.
Any helpful information or anything else would be greatly appreciated. Now I know, no matter how good and fun a job sounds, always always take down payment on the jobs.
Thanks for your help,
-Marco Massaro
8balldesigns
AIM: scmarco10
Here is his post http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=110987
As you can see I had sent him a PM, and contacted him on AIM. He chose me, and I asked for a down payment. He insisted that he would pay me once I finished the web layout, but I said I wanted down payment for scamming reasons. I really wanted the job, and he didn't feel comfortable paying, so I made him type to me on AIM that he would pay for the final copy. The layout was a hosting layout, and it was for $100 dollars.
Here is the "contract" he said to me on AIM.
Drewpat11 (12:05:59 AM): I drewpat11 will send money once project is completed, or once i see a full through mock up that i find good enough. once i received a watermarked version of the layout i will send half payment, then once i receive the layout, i will send the other half of the payment at a total of $100.
scmarco10 (12:06:45 AM): I approve of this on 7/31/2005
It even has the timestamp to show it.
Ok so when I finished the layout he loved it. I asked for payment and he said his paypal wasn't ready. (They had to confirm his bank). I started to be wary and wonder why he would do business with a un-opened paypal account. Anyway he re-assured me it would be open by wed. Problem was I left for San diego california on wed. So I told him he would have to wait until August 15th, when I would return, to get the full version. He said alright, no problem. When in San Diego I was in an Apple store and he confirmed with me his paypal was
accepted and he could send me the money when I returned.
So I return August 15th, and I gave him my paypal address and he said he would send half the money over. I waited, and Imed him if he had sent it and he signed off. I thought he would return but I thought wrong. So I gave it 2 days and he never signed on, so my brother checked his screename and sure enough he was on. My brother calmly IMED him and once again, he blocked him too. I have his AIM and Email, but something tells me he won't email me back so I wont try. Right now I only have proof that he should be paying me because he said it. But I think he might have saved my watermarked version (thank god I watermarked it) and may have someone re-create it.
If he dosen't re-create it what are my options? How can I get my money for my wasted time? (Please don't IM him harassing him, as it makes me look bad).
If he does re-create my layout, what are my options? There is easily proof there that he stole it, because it was first created by me and I have the .psd.
This is the second time this has happened, and its the second time I fell into this game. It happened with a another hosting layout with volo networks. I have indeed finally learned my lesson.
Any helpful information or anything else would be greatly appreciated. Now I know, no matter how good and fun a job sounds, always always take down payment on the jobs.
Thanks for your help,
-Marco Massaro
8balldesigns
AIM: scmarco10
and give him a nice message.
