Reviewing Dynadot

[topdom]

Another sign of Dynadot terror *.

Dynadot is stealing leads by their inappropriate "CONTACT"** link on domain landing pages (equivalent to inserting their finger on your butt, but objections are not taken into account, because they are nice),
and trying to PREVENT SALES.
They collect leads, or in some way they realize their users have a hot domain. Domain listed and parked at Dynadot, but DYnadot is trying to PREVENT SALE, because instead of 10 percent, they want 100 percent or more.

* HERE is another EVIDENCE of such a scam (terror) strategy. Prevent visitors from seeing the landing page.
THERE IS SIGNIFICANT DROP ON DYNADOT TRAFFIC ON ALL DOMAINS IN THE LAST 2 MONTHS BEFORE EXPIRATION. This is the sensitive part, because once domain expires, although there is grace period, nameservers don't work (not under user control), so landing page doesn't exist, but Dynadot concentrates all its energy on preventing sale or renewal towards the end: last 2-3 months before expiration.
Who knows maybe this part is cloudlfare's fault; if they collect a lead via their network, but this is unlikely.

I suspect Dynadot was secretly bought by Godaddy. Because otherwirse they could easily stop being an obvious evil entitiy in front of all these namepros voters who made them number 1 registrars of last 3 years.

Terrorists should never be number 1 , so don't vote for Dynadot this time, in the same way you don't vote for Epik anymore.

** because of hidden whois etc, registrars HAVE TO forward messages sent to them via such channels, BUT ON LANDING PAGE THERE IS NO SUCH ICANN RESTRICTION. So Dynadot is trying to BYPASS ICANN RULES BY ENCOURAGING BUYERS TO not-buy-and-instead-contact-Dynadot with all their personal and company info, and domain they are interested in, AND THIS DATA WILL BE HIDDEN FROM ACTUAL SELLER, because then the DOMAIN OWNER WOULD RENEW THE DOMAIN IN ADVANCE, and LIST THE DOMAIN WITH THE BEST PRICE POSSIBLE,
which could be a million, but this can't be known without knowing who the buyer is.

 

[jberryhill]

TLDR: "I'm too lazy to make my own lander page with a direct contact to me, so I'm going to make a bunch of nonsense accusations against other people."

Pro-tip: If you are going to use someone else to configure, manage and run your lander page and its content, you get what they give you. Don't like it? Don't use it. Simple.

 

[topdom]

TLDR: "I'm too lazy to make my own lander page with a direct contact to me, so I'm going to make a bunch of nonsense accusations against other people."

Pro-tip: If you are going to use someone else to configure, manage and run your lander page and its content, you get what they give you. Don't like it? Don't use it. Simple.

Not so simple, I created hundreds of hours to prepare landing pages, to make easy and fast sale possible, and sent some outbound messages. Normally I'm supposed to make regular sales without actively working on them, after such preparation, but those sales are being stolen without my knowledge.

If I prepare my landing pages: .. I still have to use a service to handle the transaction. If my domain is at Dynadot,
the best/fastest method would be sale via Dynadot, because no email exchange needed. For example at Sedo, lots of emails needed: please provide auth code, please approve transfer, please wait while we check payment, ..
and tranaction fails and my info is given to buyer and buyer's info not give to me. Sedo is evil or stupid also.
Godaddy: They also try to prevent sales, by showing contact link instead of BUY-NOW link. Even if you choose buy-now link, they change the system a little bit without notice, and that link won't work, and contact form is back.

I mean, we domainers have lots of power to protest all those evil, BUT, we don't , because we are right-winged-racist-capitalist-idiots, not left-winged heros. BTW I support Trump (but not all what he says (he is bluffing). )


EDIT: Not so simple. Give another example. All the food is toxic. What am I supposed to do then. Grow your own food. Ok then I grow my own food, I build my own car, I build my own smart phone, I build my own TV. or win in elections, and become a good dicatator, or ASCEND, BECOME AN ANGEL AND BECOME YOUR OWN GOD eventually (satanlike fallen entities are trying, and maybe partly succeeding) What about protesting all what is wrong; and making your own suggestion.

 

[DaveX]

Not so simple, I created hundreds of hours to prepare landing pages, to make easy and fast sale possible, and sent some outbound messages. Normally I'm supposed to make regular sales without actively working on them, after such preparation, but those sales are being stolen without my knowledge.

If I prepare my landing pages: .. I still have to use a service to handle the transaction. If my domain is at Dynadot,
the best/fastest method would be sale via Dynadot, because no email exchange needed. For example at Sedo, lots of emails needed: please provide auth code, please approve transfer, please wait while we check payment, ..
and tranaction fails and my info is given to buyer and buyer's info not give to me. Sedo is evil or stupid also.
Godaddy: They also try to prevent sales, by showing contact link instead of BUY-NOW link. Even if you choose buy-now link, they change the system a little bit without notice, and that link won't work, and contact form is back.

I mean, we domainers have lots of power to protest all those evil, BUT, we don't , because we are right-winged-racist-capitalist-idiots, not left-winged heros. BTW I support Trump (but not all what he says (he is bluffing). )

It's frustrating when you can't be sure of exactly what's going on and you need sales.

Even though Dynadot is most convenient for you, it might be good to try additional platforms.

I understand that Dynadot systems handle expiring domains and we must renew domains we want to keep.

Good luck

 

[topdom]

It's frustrating when you can't be sure of exactly what's going on and you need sales.

Even though Dynadot is most convenient for you, it might be good to try additional platforms.

I understand that Dynadot systems handle expiring domains and we must renew domains we want to keep.

Good luck

We don't know which ones to renew (DYNADOT KNOWS BECAUSE THEY COLLECT LEADS AND HIDE FROM US).

Let's say you have 1,000 domains, which you spent 10,000 USD to register. Each has 1K sale potential,
so theoritically you can make 1 million and it covers the cost; but most likely most won't sell in the first year.
You need to sell enough in the first year, to cover your costs. Let's say say you sell 1 percent normally,
each for 1K, and you cover your cost, excluding time. With a little bit effort you can increase your sales, by outbounding, or making better sales by research or playing a tough game (taking risks, but winning on the average).

Now, let's say people click CONTACT DYNADOT, instead of CLICKING BUY NOW.
What happens: Dynadot will get 10 percent by making the sale possible and fair.
Instead they can just ignore, and hide the lead from you, and wait until domain expires.
and tries to sell the domain for the half price (for 50 percent commission compared to 10 percent of the past),
or maybe change price from 1K to 5K, depending on who the buyer is. Lots of the time,
actual buyer is not the bidder, and agent is pretending to be the actual buyer, and DYNADOT KNOWS
whether there is an agent or not there, and locate the actual buyer and contact them..
for 500 percent commission and 50000 percent profit (100 x 5000/10 (reg fee)).

Dynadot would abuse its power, for enormous profit, while you can't even recover your reg cost,
because YOUR MONEY sitting on the table, is stolen by your nice registrar. You need to work harder to make profit, only to become even more slave to them. with your effort to increase your profit from 1000 to 2000, you will increase their profit from 100K to 200K, with no effort or risk to them.

Let's say domain is on auction, what they do, they would outbid anyone to reserve domain for themselves,
and the cost to themselves is the reg fee (icann fee). Add a billion proxy bid, and get any domain you absolutely want. .. too much power given to registrars, and Dynadot is abusing it.
Icann can allow us to block such abuses, by letting us prevent domain grabbing of our expired domains.

You can't FORCE people to DONATE THEIR ORGANS legally. but its equivalent is happening in domain world.
Your domain expires (body dies), and you are forced to allow it (your organs) to be grabbed by your registrar (whoever handles dead bodies). This is a perfect analogy. How fair is that you have to donate your organs: if so, this can be abused, you can be killed for your organs. I think it was being done systematically in China (not saying China is bad, but such very bad things were systematiclaly happening), healthy people were being killed for their organs, and healthy organ ads were everywhere.

 

[DaveX]

We don't know which ones to renew (DYNADOT KNOWS BECAUSE THEY COLLECT LEADS AND HIDE FROM US).

Let's say you have 1,000 domains, which you spent 10,000 USD to register. Each has 1K sale potential,
so theoritically you can make 1 million and it covers the cost; but most likely most won't sell in the first year.
You need to sell enough in the first year, to cover your costs. Let's say say you sell 1 percent normally,
each for 1K, and you cover your cost, excluding time. With a little bit effort you can increase your sales, by outbounding, or making better sales by research or playing a tough game (taking risks, but winning on the average).

Now, let's say people click CONTACT DYNADOT, instead of CLICKING BUY NOW.
What happens: Dynadot will get 10 percent by making the sale possible and fair.
Instead they can just ignore, and hide the lead from you, and wait until domain expires.
and tries to sell the domain for the half price (for 50 percent commission compared to 10 percent of the past),
or maybe change price from 1K to 5K, depending on who the buyer is. Lots of the time,
actual buyer is not the bidder, and agent is pretending to be the actual buyer, and DYNADOT KNOWS
whether there is an agent or not there, and locate the actual buyer and contact them..
for 500 percent commission and 50000 percent profit (100 x 5000/10 (reg fee)).

Let's say domain is on auction, what they do, they would outbid anyone to reserve domain for themselves,
and the cost to themselves is the reg fee (icann fee). Add a billion proxy bid, and get any domain you absolutely want. .. too much power given to registrars, and Dynadot is abusing it.
Icann can allow us to block such abuses, by letting us prevent domain grabbing of our expired domains.

You can't FORCE people to DONATE THEIR ORGANS legally. but its equivalent is happening in domain world.
Your domain expires (body dies), and you are forced to allow it (your organs) to be grabbed by your registrar (whoever handles dead bodies). This is a perfect analogy. How fair is that you have to donate your organs: if so, this can be abused, you can be killed for your organs. I think it was being done systematically in China (not saying China is bad, but such very bad things were systematiclaly happening), healthy people were being killed for their organs, and healthy organ ads were everywhere.

You need to punish them by renewing your domains.

 

[topdom]

You need to punish them by renewing your domains.

Yes, renew all, too much money; but they can still prevent sales, you keep renewing forever , with no sales,
unless/until someone uses an alternative channel to contact you as potential buyer or agent.
And Dynadot can still prevent sales, or make you earn less, by
-lowballing as potential buyer, while actual buyer is hidden; and their bids don't reach you.
-they tell potential buyers that domain is overpriced, instead backorder with your own offer.

 

[DaveX]

Yes, renew all, too much money; but they can still prevent sales, you keep renewing forever , with no sales,
unless/until someone uses an alternative channel to contact you as potential buyer or agent.
And Dynadot can still prevent sales, or make you earn less, by
-lowballing as potential buyer, while actual buyer is hidden; and their bids don't reach you.
-they tell potential buyers that domain is overpriced, instead backorder with your own offer.

I don't use Dynadot for sales. I have name registered there and I use Spaceship landers and Afternic landers.