Revenue domains - Is this the secret???

[accent]

I have frequently seen comments by domainers that their domains earn their renewals in parking revenue, that if a domain does not pay it's way then they drop it, and so forth. I can see this for old-time domainers who had a much better chance to register the best .coms, but my domains do not make much money parking. It has not bothered me too much, I buy for future value, but I have long wondered what I am doing "wrong".

I think I have it. Domainers who buy for revenue at reg fee these days are buying typos and former websites. That is why I never seem to get revenue domains, those kinds of domains will not, in most cases, be particularly valuable in the future, so I have ignored them.

Am I right, or is there still something I am missing?

 

[dnb8]

I think that this guys just own a lot of domains and some of them have traffic and some not.
Typos of good websites are taken long time ago so you can't buy them with reg fee.

 

[mhdoc]

I think I have it. Domainers who buy for revenue at reg fee these days are buying typos and former websites. That is why I never seem to get revenue domains, those kinds of domains will not, in most cases, be particularly valuable in the future, so I have ignored them.

Am I right, or is there still something I am missing?

I think there is some truth there. I am always shocked by how many domainers have no technical skills. They see development as difficult and expensive. Typos may be the only way they can generate an income.

It seems to me those who buy thinking of eventual development look for different kinds of names.

 

[Gene]

It's also a matter of 'shake down'. Buy a lot of domains, keep the top producing 20% and let the rest sell cheaply or drop. Repeat. And repeat. And repeat. Over time you have mostly better producing domains.

 

[rodash]

What Gene says has been the Holy Grail for earning good money from domain names in the past.

The only trouble is parking has changed dramatically in the past two months, so I personally don't believe this approach is as valid as it used to be. Google pulled its ad feeds from parking companies earlier this year after coming to the conclusion that direct navigation was a head-on competitor (why feed the hand that's trying to bite you). Soon Yahoo will do the same. From here on it's going to be a real challenge to monitize domain names. A lot of parking companies are now paying 1c and 2 c clicks. two months ago I was earning $14 a day off one of my best names, now I'm earning 40 cents, if that.

If you've got good generics you can probably set your names up for commissions from referrals or negotiate deals directly with advertisers. If you've got branding-type names then it's a matter of selling to end users.

And I wouldn't be rushing out to buy or reg typos as they'll soon be dead in the water as a result of the Snowe Bill. All those names will be worthless once this bill goes through.

The golden era of parking, as most knew it, has ended.

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[Seabass]

I don't know what any of you guys are talking about, but I don't do much of any of that really.

I buy only generic domains, preferably never used (so as to know that traffic is pure type-ins and not built up) and I look to spend no more than five to six years revenue earnings (done by estimate) before I get my investment back.

I hate expired traffic b/c it is temporary earnings and you keep needing to add backfill to keep earnings up as old domains loose their traffic eventually.

I have about an 80% success rate with the methods I have invented in acquiring domains.

Types of domains I look for are like this:

ChicagoDivorce,com
CamoClothing,com
AlabamaTeacher,com
FlatTireKit,com
.

 

[TheBulldog]

"Parking" may be dead or dying, that is why so many "mini-domain" systems are popping up.

I use one of them for my domains, and it works well. Nothing fantastic, but certainly pays my reg fees and then some for most of them. The great thing about the systems is that I earn the money. I am not splitting it with a parking company. Since I like the legal type names, dallaslawyer, triallawyer type of thing, the clicks from adsense are ok, ranging from fifty cents to dollars a piece.

I believe the new self parking systems are going to be the next generation of parking in order to get that adsense revenue back.

 

[bobdigital]

Not bad, Seabass. Your methods should be copied by noobs.

Typos of good websites are taken long time ago so you can't buy them with reg fee.

not true, Whateverlife.com is relatively new. and similar sites pop up all the time.
Typos will always be available to register. The Snowe Bill may stop revenue, but not traffic.

 

[dnb8]

Not bad, Seabass. Your methods should be copied by noobs.

not true, Whateverlife.com is relatively new. and similar sites pop up all the time.
Typos will always be available to register. The Snowe Bill may stop revenue, but not traffic.

This is true that new websites pop up all the time, but if you check most of typos of this Whateverlife.com are taken in 2005

 

[accent]

CamoClothing.com is truly a prize. That kind of domain can attract advertisers on it's own.

My gut says the Snowe bill will not make it, but there will be more Snow-jobs, and some will stick. I stay away from typos of TMs but typos of generics are fair game - but here is the crux of my point. I type doamin for domain far too often. I am sure that doamin.com gets a lot of traffic, Snowe-proof and with an obvious product to sell them. But nobody is likely to want to build a website on doamin.com --- forward it to another URL, yes sure, but not build. It's future appreciation is going to be mostly based on the raw expansion of the internet, not the (in my opinion, far more profitable) shrinking pool of good internet addresses. So Doamin.com is money now, a comparable value LLL.com (or several, I bet Doamin.com would be pretty expensive), while not getting a lot of paying traffic, might well be a much better long term hold.

Different strokes, and all that.

 

[htmlindex]

I have frequently seen comments by domainers that their domains earn their renewals in parking revenue, that if a domain does not pay it's way then they drop it, and so forth.

If I did that I would be left with nearly no domains & a lot of money wasted on dropping names that others would've picked up in a heartbeat!

Unless you've got true generics in the .com, I think that's a pretty stupid thing to do.

 

[Jeffrey]

If Snowe Bill is implemented, i think parking companies would go out of the US to setup business somewhere. And so other PPC companies.

Seabass, you should share more of your secrets to us.