Results of Dot SU Auction

[Rubber Duck]

http://www.xn--c1ajbwt.su

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?u=http://www.xn--c1ajbwt.su/&sl=ru&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Results of domain auctions in the zone. SU
According to the results of closed bidding, Tourism, Job, Gifts, Auto & Leisure were among the most expensive domain names in the zone.

туризм.su 50.000$

работа.su 42.999$

подарки.su 30.015$

авто.su 30.005$

отдых.su 22.290$

знакомства.su 20.000$

секс.su 15.575$

квартиры.su 15.010$

такси.su 10.010$

домены.su 10.000$

тур.su 9.999$

хостинг.su 7.999$

перевозки.su 7.005$

ремонт.su 5.551$

ипотека.su 5.200$

фото.su 5.105$

я.su 5.098$

пиво.su 5.009$

аренда.su 5.005$

стройка.su 5.000$

 

[michaeldotcom]

These numbers are chicken feed. I think you should prepare yourself for much bigger number when .рф is launched. Don't forget it was a Russian enterprise that bough Vodka.com, and I wouldn't be surprised if money wasn't left on the table there.

Vodka.com is a much more meaningful domain than туризм.su.

- because .com is THE major international extension, which won't disappear before a very long time, while .su is very much deprecated.
- because "vodka" and ".com" are both in the same character set, which does make sense, while "туризм" and ".su" aren't.

But I would think that туризм.рф would really make sense and would really be very valuable, as it could actually be used properly by a real business.

 

[Rubber Duck]

Vodka.com is a much more meaningful domain than туризм.su.

- because .com is THE major international extension, which won't disappear before a very long time, while .su is very much deprecated.
- because "vodka" and ".com" are both in the same character set, which does make sense, while "туризм" and ".su" aren't.

But I would think that туризм.рф would really make sense and would really be very valuable, as it could actually be used properly by a real business.

If the Russians are serious about reviving dot SU they will no doubt end up with a cyrillic alias which might be more appropriate to the modern world, which would encompass all those countries with large Russian speaking populations. This could make far more sense than dot Asia.

These bids are not really any less bizarre than $200K for Flowers.mobi.

 

[michaeldotcom]

If the Russians are serious about reviving dot SU they will no doubt end up with a cyrillic alias which might be more appropriate to the modern world, which would encompass all those countries with large Russian speaking populations. This could make far more sense than dot Asia.

I don't think that either .su (or a Cyrillic alias of .su) or .asia makes any sense at all.

The .su extension is about the Soviet Union (communist era) and NOT about Russian-speaking populations. You won't find many people in ex-Soviet countries which are nostalgic of that Soviet era. Maybe some in Belarus but that's all.

The Soviet times are seen as a nightmare by the huge majority of people in Baltic states or the Ukraine. People in Estonia would much rather see themselves as part of Europe and/or Scandinavia (for example) than the Soviet Union.

These bids are not really any less bizarre than $200K for Flowers.mobi

How dare you say anything against our "king" ? lol He's "the Net's largest developer". You'll see when flowers.mobi will be developed...

 

[Rubber Duck]

I think we are looking a two factors here. One is the Russian Nic using this in negotiations with ICANN. Maybe they want a cyrillic form of CIS, maybe they are worried that they will not get .рф.

The other thing is Yandex. It may be that investors are gambling on getting Yandex ranking with these. If so they could clean up in the period before рф is launched and make an awful lot of money.

It may also be they want to bid seriousl money for рф and want to road test the potential of cyrillic domains.

 

[michaeldotcom]

Well, we'll see about this, but it'll surely be interesting to follow.

 

[Kate]

BTW I'm wondering how popular .su is vs .ru :?

 

[michaeldotcom]

BTW I'm wondering how popular .su is vs .ru :?

A few months ago, I read that 1 million .ru domains and 10.000 .su domains were registered.

 

[Rubber Duck]

BTW I'm wondering how popular .su is vs .ru :?

Nada. But Dot SU will always be bigger for IDN. The only people who have an IDN in dot RU are the Kremlin, and there is no intention for there ever to be any more.

 

[michaeldotcom]

Nada. But Dot SU will always be bigger for IDN. The only people who have an IDN in dot RU are the Kremlin, and there is no intention for there ever to be any more.

Huh ? And why should IDNs work better with the Soviet extension than with the Russian one ??? It really doesn't make sense...

 

[Rubber Duck]

Huh ? And why should IDNs work better with the Soviet extension than with the Russian one ??? It really doesn't make sense...

It has been decided, but not ratified by ICANN that there will be two Russian extensions. One in Unicode and one in ASCII. The intention is to block all keywords that don't match the script of the extension. Dot RU is therefore going to be an ASCII only extension.

 

[michaeldotcom]

It has been decided, but not ratified by ICANN that there will be two Russian extensions. One in Unicode and one in ASCII. The intention is to block all keywords that don't match the script of the extension. Dot RU is therefore going to be an ASCII only extension.

If I understand your explanation correctly, this would mean :
- keyword in Latin character set with .ru
- keyword in Cyrillic character set (IDN) with .рф
Is that what you meant ? That would make sense to me ?

But I don't see what all this has to do with .su ???

 

[Rubber Duck]

If I understand your explanation correctly, this would mean :
- keyword in Latin character set with .ru
- keyword in Cyrillic character set (IDN) with .рф
Is that what you meant ? That would make sense to me ?

But I don't see what all this have to do with .su ???

Spot on so far.

What it has to do with SU is that there are not going to be any home grown Russian IDN of any description until 2009, or at least that would have been the case until they decided to run with the SU extension. This is probably at least in part to try to ensure that dot Com has at least some competition during the long hyping up to the .рф launch. Their problem is the their publicity will mean people are interested in buying IDN but Verisign is the only provider able to supply.

However, Yandex the main Russian search engine is not IDN.com friendly at the moment. It may be that it will respond to dot SU. Who knows? But if it does there is money to be made from dot SU.

 

[michaeldotcom]

Spot on so far.
What it has to do with SU is that there are not going to be any home grown Russian IDN of any description until 2009, or at least that would have been the case until they decided to run with the SU extension. This is probably at least in part to try to ensure that dot Com has at least some competition during the long hyping up to the .рф launch. Their problem is the their publicity will mean people are interested in buying IDN but Verisign is the only provider able to supply.
However, Yandex the main Russian search engine is not IDN.com friendly at the moment. It may be that it will respond to dot SU. Who knows? But if it does there is money to be made from dot SU.

OK, I understand what you mean.

But frankly it doesn't make any sense for a Russian enduser (business etc) to invest in a IDN in .su.
They should rather wait a while for the .рф launch. Search engines like Yandex aren't ready anyway.
So I don't see why a Russian business would invest $xx,xxx in a IDN .su which will be worth nothing in 1 or 2 years after the launch of .рф. And a IDN .su just doesn't look reputable anyway as I explained in my previous posts.

 

[Rubber Duck]

These are not exactly big lumps of cash. I think you can easily throw a nought on the end for the .рф launch.

OK, I understand what you mean.

But frankly it doesn't make any sense for a Russian enduser (business etc) to invest in a IDN in .su.
They should rather wait a while for the .рф launch. Search engines like Yandex aren't ready anyway.
So I don't see why a Russian business would invest $xx,xxx in a IDN .su which will be worth nothing in 1 or 2 years after the launch of .рф. And a IDN .su just doesn't look reputable anyway as I explained in my previous posts.