.tv Registering names based on Overture & Wordtracker

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Many people register names based on OVT & Wordtracker results. I was wondering what is the minimum OVT & Wordtracker results would you look for if you were to register a .tv name?

 

[TheBulldog]

For overture, I use 2000 as my "mildly excited" mark.

BUT, the word has to have, imho, some possible video or media dev potential.....I did prognosis.tv because it could have video's of doctor's or maybe an online soap opera. I personally think that something like say "calculation.tv"*** which has 2800 overture and 104 million google is not really a potential candidate for a tv site. The only real potential is as some kind of learning site, but I doubt very seriously it would ever be a good sell or good for a reseller.

Basically, if you can't tie it to media somehow in a good way, chances are you will sit on the name for many years waiting for a potential, but unlikely payoff.


***calculation.tv is available, you're welcome.

 

[TLDnetworks]

SO, if there is/are names that have;
6303 OVT and 101,000,000 google results, and very good video/media application; Reg It?

10,049 OVT and 1,210,000 google and very good video/media application; Reg It?

22,895 OVT and 28,500,000 google and very good video/media application; Reg It?

 

[smashfactory]

.tv is not all about overture- its different- if you go to launched.tv- look at the catagory with the most entries- entertainment-
now, read some of the names: Womb.tv is under music, there is Krib.tv- the wrong spelling, Nutter.tv, Ultrafeel.tv, CheddarVision.tv, UrbanUniverse.tv, ShootYou.tv, Kyte.tv- spelling, Ubergeek.tv.....

people are going in any direction they feel with .tv- even in the other catagories- take a look at these names... i think over time your gonna see sites grow with names that are just funky or cool- some that dont even mean anythng- because with .tv, you just can-

 

[Len]

I agree with Smash. I think we will see many successful sites developed that just have an attractive and cool sounding name that does not particularly refer to the content. Look at some already out there in other extensions that the domain name does not really refer to the content ie: Slashdot.org and Amazon.com.... Jmho.

Len.

 

[Skinny]

As stated above the keword needs to related to the domain ending. As in the case of .TV not everything will apply.

OffTipic: does anyone know a tool which tells you OVT terms that are say 2000 and higher or something like that?

PM if you do.

Skinny

 

[TLDnetworks]

So smash/len, does that mean you'll be dumping and dropping your generics? and doesn't that blow the whole resell game out the window if they are just going to find names in other directions that are just funky and cool?

As stated above the keword needs to related to the domain ending. As in the case of .TV not everything will apply.

and very good video/media application; Reg It?

 

[smashfactory]

nope- what i am saying is- my Gumdrop.tv may not be used for a candy site, and my Salami.tv may not be a food site- i am not saying drop generics- if i came across that way i apologize- let me try this again....
i think- > me, smashfactory< - that .tv opens new doors- will medic.tv be used for a lotto site? probably not- but there are alot of names that will be used by stratches of the imagination, and they will be able to make them work. my Rabid.tv, as a .com, may not have been as appealing- but as a tv- someone is gonna go crazy with that name- they will let people "see" rabid.

now, if i didnt explain myself correctly please let me know-

 

[RogueWriter]

JMO, but domains do not in the least have to be related to .tv, if you are developing them and they are generic product domains that you are using for organic traffic. www.CowboyHats.tv does not have a single video on it, and it is incomplete, still, yet it makes sales for me.

As with the other extensions, there are different models/approaches.

Obviously, the most easily recognizable, and the most potentially lucrative are those that can exploit the media relevancy that .TV implies.

I use OVT as an interest meter, and balance that off the perceived margin/commission % the keyword measured. That is, 2K or less does not excite me much either, unless I know I can sell the heck out of the item, and that the commissions per sale are fairly large.

I am ambivalent about my last reg, I think I overreached by registering UniversalRemoteControl.tv . Remote controls do not typically have a large margin. But, the OVT was 35K, so I will try it for a year.

 

[domainacrobat]

This has turned into an age old debate!

Here is my opinion.

Several things are important:

Overture- Too many folks get worked up over this aspect. Many folks say well overture is only relevant in .com, that is just ridiculous. Overture is a great way to determine over all demand and for specific keywords. Its simple supply and demand. Of course .com is the only extension where overture converts to revenue when your site is "undeveloped", but if you have high overture keywords, you can resell to a motivated developer alot easier. In some small cases it does lend itself to some type ins even on a .tv. Most folks around here do not digg that deep when looking for names IMO. I accept .tvs around 500 overture per day. I get excited around 750/day. Overture makes a huge difference if you are going to sell it to an enduser. Especially if they want a generic name that encompases their industry to get a high ranking in search engines quickly.

Google results - I have very mixed feelings about this one. Some say its good to have really high amount becaause in a similar way to overture it shows "demand", I can agree with that in a way. The other side says, if there are too many results, it may be too difficult to get a high ranking, especially if you are trying to go head to head with large sites like yahoo or amazon. So some developers say the less results the better, I can agree with that. It used to be a whole lot easier when you could see the advertisers bid prices for specific keywords, but since yahoo removed their tool the only way to gauge possible advertisers interest is by checking how many ads pop up on the right when you search a specific term in either google or yahoo. IMO it is better to have smaller results with lots of ads displayed at the right. That way you can determine advertising demand and how easy it would be to get a high search ranking.

Relevance - This is also a sticky subject. Some say the only good .tv names are the ones that have inherent tv related uses. I can agree with that. I think those names are the obvious marketable and valuable names. Anything that fits with video or if you could envision an intersting idea for a video site will have more value at first. From a developers point of view, they would want the most exciting name for the money with the right keywords. Advertising a .net .info is not very exciting, but advertising a .tv is. IMO it will not be long before most major keywords tv related or not, will be worth money. Thats why I bought equipment.tv $500 premium - most folks are probably thinking "that has no video or television relation whatsoever" You are right! It is not related at all. But I did run down all of the premium names and for the money this was the biggest, most popular, and most generic name available for the money. I have put my money on generic, video related or not, if I had done that with .mobi I would be rich right now. I see generic product names selling for hundreds all the time, completely unrelated to television.

.tv intangibles - two things make .tv very exciting and should allow for alot of oppertunity for the next few years:
-premuim pricing structure, this should allow for an inherent value for names similar in nature to the premiums, plus it should encourage developement, meaning more developers will be looking for .tv which translates as more enduser sales.
-there is no way to monitor dropping .tv names. This should allow for alot of oppertunity over the next few years in cheap resellable acqusitions! There are alot of investers this year that will probably drop alot of names. Next year should be a gold mine.

All of the above things must be factored in while buying and selling .tvs!

 

[TheBulldog]

So as an example, let's say I found badcreditmortgage.tv. Bad credit mortgage comes up with 142116 overture. Should I just put this up for a quick flip, or would I need to market it.

Would this be the type of thing that people would be looking for on SEDO?

 

[jettabosko]

I agree with smash. .tv is a whole new ball game with better branding opportunity for video content.
Also i'm liking idea of fewer seareches for a name, cause that might mean a more "passionate" niche.

 

[domainacrobat]

So as an example, let's say I found badcreditmortgage.tv. Bad credit mortgage comes up with 142116 overture. Should I just put this up for a quick flip, or would I need to market it.

Would this be the type of thing that people would be looking for on SEDO?

I would register and quick flip for $75 - It will siut someone needs, has the right keywords, cheap.

 

[TheBulldog]

Oh it was reg'd.

Now just need to figure out the best place to flip it.

 

[TLDnetworks]

I think I know what you're getting at Smash, but I just don't see any difference than any other extension regarding "Brandable" names. Good solid names in any extension are better than poor names in COM. As RW says, there are many models/approaches, but unless you are planning on spending lots of on creating a brand, I think the more the generic the better. Now partnering a "Funky" name with a generic and redirecting the generic to the "Funky" name is best of both worlds.

"Mind Share" is what Dan Warner talked about at Domainfest; OVT numbers coupled with SE results offer a peak at Mind Share of a term. So let me pose this question again;
6303 OVT and 101,000,000 google results, and very good video/media application; Reg It? I did SoulMusic

22,895 OVT and 28,500,000 google and very good video/media application; Reg It? I did HipHopandRap

several others I found this am that I'm still on the fence about one 35,868 OVT and 2,340,000 google, but more along the RW style generic name

 

[equity78]

I think you first have to define what you are buying these domains for.

Funky domains are usually developed, all of the examples mentioned are developed KYTE does not related to TV but their product does. So they wanted to stand out with a "Web 2.0" name. Makes sense imo, but regging KYTE.tv to resell would not IMO.

I agree with RW's point if you can get a great keyword then that is great especially if it lends itself to a widely popular product or service worldwide. I regged Currency Trading knowing it had no relation to "TV" but I regged it for its keyword weight and its gravity as a generic. In addition I knew it was a name regged in all major Gtlds and cctlds with many high paying advertisers. So with it being keyword and Search engine friendly it was worth $24.99 IMO.

I agree with Westblock as well as that it makes sense to stick to generics for the most part if your goal is to resell. Funky is great if you have an idea for the domain if it does not sell you still have other options. The thing about funky is someone probably not looking to pay up to get it IMO. IF Kyte.tv was regged than maybe they go for another unregged funky domain. I know I would because if the domain is not related in anyway and there are infinite made up domains available why pay a premium for those funky domains.

 

[BDM1]

I dont even know what overture is to be honest.. I am such a newbie!
I only look at .tv as channels/television/web2/streaming etc.
If it sounds good as a name of an online tv program I buy it. I think???? that this will be the future for television as we know it. I think all the old systems are redundant when it comes to TV, except ofcourse those super names that will do well on any extension.
My vision of .tv really is so different from many here. I think its a good thing Im a newbie to this game as I dont have to follow the old ground rules, because I dont know them :lol:
I think you will find many people in the broadcast industry are thinking along similiar lines?
anyway my 2 cent worth.

 

[smashfactory]

all i am saying is- here and on any other thread that keeps opening with viewpoints- is that like acrobat said- it is NOT all about one thing- or even two things- look at bcf.com- sold for $71,000.00- and has an overtuere of 1125. wannago.com sold for $20,350.00 with an overture of 173! Netica.com sold for $13,000.00 with an overture of 74!

now of course on ther other hand there are names that sold with huge overture-

all smash is saying is you just cant say ONLY buy names with overture or ONLY buy names with google results - thats all- and i feel that tv just opened a different door than the other tlds- one that i think you can very profitable if you feed into it-