RE: Design Contests Forum

[weblord]

may i suggest
on forum:
http://www.namepros.com/design-contests/

There must be 1 moderator who collects the money in advance from the member who want to start a contest and once the winner is announced, the moderator pay the money to the winner so to avoid delays and scams

 

[nadish]

Yeah I think this is the eaiest, simplest and reliable way to protect members of namepros from Scammer.

Excellent Suggestion Weblord Brother!!!

 

[weblord]

yeah thanks and your welcome but i got it from you :tu:

Yeah I think this is the eaiest, simplest and reliable way to protect members of namepros from Scammer.

Excellent Suggestion Weblord Brother!!!

 

[Dotmainer]

Not Really !

How should they collect that money ? Paypal ? NameBucks ? Moneybookers ?

Paypal with 4% Fee (I'm not sure)
Namebucks, then all Winners get only NP$ ???
Moneybookers, not all use them, but yes they are cheaper and better than others.

Should mod do that for free ? Ok if there are 5 contest a week, but if it gets a day job ?

I say yes to more security, just i dont see it simple !

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[Ross]

i agree with weblord on this one, but some kinks will have to be worked out just as zoki has stated. A system needs to be set up where everyone can participate.

NP$ would prolly be the easiest and best way to go because it can easily be exchanged and sold to other members.

 

[weblord]

I don't mind for moderator(s) to get a share of the pie, all I want is some tangible assurance that the contest held is really indeed a namepros exclusive contest and not some guy with low rep/tr running it and at same time giving away money/winnings outside of namepros. Perhaps a tax to go to the officiating mod/staff or any sort of payment for their efforts, it's for them to determine.

I don't see a system setup atm so scammers will play on us members here and don't pay a thing and get our ideas and claimed they paid for it.

All I want is someone from the management/staff to intervene with honesty/loyalty to run this as transparent as can be so all will be winners here and not being victimized since I usually participate in these contests.

 

[RickM]

Since this would require NamePros to have Paypal, Google Checkout, MoneyBookers, NoChex, eGold and about a million other forms, it may be better to have an option to have the transaction done through a NamePros gateway but for just one payment method (I.E Google Checkout). But making it a requirement would be impossible without NamePros setting up hundreds of different accounts.

 

[Kadenz]

Well, if you look at Sitepoint's setup, it's pretty well done. Much of the design can solve some problems in the Contest forum.
We could add automatic watermarks and a place to upload entries.
Maybe the contest holder has to supply a valid phone number that a moderator has to verify? But because this may cost money, charge a small fee to hold a contest, either NP$ or another form.

But going on weblord's idea. How about the opposite? The people who enter the contest must upload/send the PSDs etc. to mods, once a payment is sent to the winner, the logo is then transferred.

That's my two cents.

 

[Ross]

Well, if you look at Sitepoint's setup, it's pretty well done. Much of the design can solve some problems in the Contest forum.
We could add automatic watermarks and a place to upload entries.
Maybe the contest holder has to supply a valid phone number that a moderator has to verify? But because this may cost money, charge a small fee to hold a contest, either NP$ or another form.

But going on weblord's idea. How about the opposite? The people who enter the contest must upload/send the PSDs etc. to mods, once a payment is sent to the winner, the logo is then transferred.

That's my two cents.

The bigger problem is people getting ripped off. I have been part of quite a bit of contests on sitepoint but some of the people that hold the contests abandon the contests and that creates a huge problem with a lot of people. That is the reason i seldomly enter contests on sitepoint anymore. If we could implement the sitepoint idea with some kind of payment solution then i think the contest forum will take off in ways it has not in the past.

 

[Kadenz]

Yep, this will be long and tedious when trying to make it work properly.
Upgrade to vB 3.6.8/3.7, ok? :p just joking
If you need any help with anything, I'd be glad to, but first we need a reply from someone on what's going on.

 

[weblord]

but nothing's wrong with the contest participants, what's wrong is with the op who started the contest there's no hold against the op if he/she decides to abandon the thread with no winner declared.

But going on weblord's idea. How about the opposite? The people who enter the contest must upload/send the PSDs etc. to mods, once a payment is sent to the winner, the logo is then transferred.

That's my two cents.

 

[Kadenz]

I think some sort of Escrow system would do just fine. The PayPal fees could be charged, but that is a small fee for the security the contest would have.
For even more security, contests could be held using ONLY NP$ as a prize, which in turn could be sold/bought for money through PayPal. This would reduce the fees accrued through PayPal and we wouldn't have to deal with PayPal directly.

 

[Morph]

I think we could be prepared to offer an NP$ escrow - But, dealing with "true" currency would bring in a nest of other issues, which we don't humanly have the time for, and could get us in trouble.


I can't speak for everyone on the team, but I would be happy accepting and sending NP$ for contest escrow, but not paypal and the like.

 

[Kadenz]

I completely agree with you Tom, and I think that this would probably be what will happen. The escrow system will probably be automatic, with no actual person escrowing (:p).
This is the setup I think should be used:
When someone opens a contest, they specify how many NP$ the prize is and the usual description of the contest.
The contest holder also specifies the date and time in which the contest will end, and the thread should be closed through CRON at that time.
The NP$ is then deducted from the contest holder for the duration of the contest.
Members enter the contest the same way Sitepoint has theirs set up (watermarks could be added by the system automatically because people often forget).
When the contest ends, the contest holder looks at the closed thread and selects a winner.
There is one last post made in the thread announcing the winner and the NP$ is automatically added to the winners account and the winner must then send the files to the contest holder. Which should be done through NP so that admins/mods know that the files were actually transferred.

Well, that's my idea :hehe:
If you need help, you know where to find me!

 

[sb225]

I think we could be prepared to offer an NP$ escrow - But, dealing with "true" currency would bring in a nest of other issues, which we don't humanly have the time for, and could get us in trouble.


I can't speak for everyone on the team, but I would be happy accepting and sending NP$ for contest escrow, but not paypal and the like.

that would be cool and the contest runner can easily buy np$ from all the payment processors

 

[Ross]

Since this is NamePros.com NP$ should be the currency accepted no matter what. If they cant get the np$ for it tough. I mean np$ is traded daily at large amounts. If you can't get your hands on some then you shouldn't hold a contest. If NP$ is the only currency accepted then you can put a really good system in place with a NamePros escrow system for NP$. I think simplicity is key in this situation.