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Questions for all who buys expired domains

Located in Domain Expiration and Domain Drop Catching started by silgro12, Feb 13, 2015.

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  1. silgro12

    silgro12 Active Member VIP

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    Please share your story about buying expired domains. What are you searching: age, backlinks, PR, traffic or something else or you combine? How you evaluate that domain on auction is not over priced and what kind of domain are you searching (only .com or all exstension)? Did you ever regreted when you bought expired domain? What are you doing after you buy them, do you immediately offer them to end users or you park them or you change website and use it?
     
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  2. FPForum

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    It all depends on what you're looking for. People buy domains for a dozen different reasons, so they search using a dozen different metrics..
    If you were looking for end user type domains you would probably be filtering by age because the older domains tend to be better in terms of quality. If you were looking for SEO type domains the age doesn't matter - you want to be searching and looking at PR, backlinks..etc.
    Pricing a domain should be something you can do, everyone has their own value..but you should know what ridiculous is, and some people prefer to do only COM while others do other extensions. Trust me, there are people buying expired domains in almost all extensions.
    Sure, I've regretted buying an expired domain before..I've also regretted buying a hand registered domain too.
    As far as it goes after buying them, once again it depends on the use. For end user type domains you will likely park them right away and look to start seeking end users. For SEO domains you're better to get a website of some kind on them right away.
     
  3. silgro12

    silgro12 Active Member VIP

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    Thanks for sharing
     
  4. The Group

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    Depends, what is your purpose for buying the name? Quick flip? Long term hold? Development?
     
  5. silgro12

    silgro12 Active Member VIP

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    Can you write an answer for all three your questions? Thanks in advance :)
     
  6. The Group

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    Sure.

    1. Quick Flip - I generally focus on two word .com's with the occasional 1 word .net. I look for quality search volume, aged, high ad competition and use the radio spelling test. (If I told you over the radio, would you immediately know how to spell it?). Those are the basics, then I look for other indicators - like: comparable sales and business application. I'll use one of my sales from the past as an example:

    InpatientDetox.com
    Low search volume - but - huge business application, lead generating and a big business in substance recovery and addiction. Great relative search volumes which it can rank for.
    $4.56 CPC
    High Ad Competition
    Easy to remember/radio test.
    Brandable.
    I picked this domain up for $162. I sold it for $800 within 30 days.

    Another one I bought was FlooringOptions.com - Tell me why you think thats a quick flip?

    2. Long term hold. This is where you need to focus on premium keyword .com's. One word and very aged are your best bet here. Focus on ultra generic terms than can brand just about any type of company. Although, the future will be more tech based, so those domains will be good holds as well.

    3. Development - I look for one word products like Keyboards.net, ReggaeSongs.com and other domains that not only have products attached to them, but something to blog about daily. Technology terms that include products like GamingHeadsets.com would be fantastic for development. High search, product attachment and endless ability to write content (for seo purposes).

    I know this is a rather broad reply, however, the basic foundation of my strategy in investing is in it. It would take me a novel to tell you my day to day going about's, but this should hopefully point you in the right direction.
     
  7. silgro12

    silgro12 Active Member VIP

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    Wow, thank you very much for your answer it is very useful. About you question, according to adwords flooringoptions.com has 66000 exact monthly searches, CPC about 2$ ( I think a little more then that- im form Croatia so I have different currency in adword) and it has high competition and easy to rember. I just have one more question for you. What about different language domains like one word spanish or french, I saw that it is no much bidders on that kind of domains. Also 162$ is a little too much for me, do you think I can find some quallity domains for up to 30$ on expired domains auctions. Btw I predict that you dont buy closeouts, am I right?
     
  8. The Group

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    Actually, I started my career on $25 domains. I bought CupcakeFrosting.com when I first started for $12+renewal fees = $25 at closeout and sold it for $601 within 30 days. So, there is your answer :)

    I mainly focus on english domains. I find them more liquid than any other language.
     
  9. silgro12

    silgro12 Active Member VIP

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    Thank you very much for helping me a lot and good luck in the future :)
     
  10. The Group

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    Sure thing. Check out the domain sherpa interview in my signature, may help a bit more. It's the bottom link :)
     
  11. stub

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    I can't add anything to what @FPForum has said.
     
  12. optimen

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    hi stub how do you calculate monthly searches?
     
  13. stub

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    I use Google's stats for "exact" monthly searches.
     
  14. MaxHarrison

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    I have been working on a website called expired-domains.co, the interface is different to all the other options out there and in a week or so it will be completely mobile friendly. We update the data every night at 8pm ET and now have over 28 million expired domains in our database. The data we offer is completely free no subscription necessary. We have been getting a lot of consistent traffic recently, which is a good sign that the domains we are offering are useful. Check it out expired-domains.co
     
  15. stub

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    @MaxHarrison - A bit overwhelming, but I liked it, and picked up 2 domains today. Thanks.
     
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    Overwhelming because there is too much data? Or is there too much choice with all the tiles and filters? Curious as it is good feedback ! :)
     
  17. silgro12

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    Good site but it would be better if I can filter some informations and combine filter like traffic pr sg and so on :)
     
  18. cdboard

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    for the last one I bought (godaddy auction), I thought for a while about how to monetize it, and what to put on it (as a website).

    after I had some reasonable ideas, I bought it.
     
  19. stub

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    @MaxHarrison - All of the above. But I wouldn't change any of it yet. I'm just getting used to it, is all.
     
  20. MaxHarrison

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    Cool try to to get used it and then let me know some constructive feedback !
     
  21. Domaingel

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    I like it. It Thanks for offering this for free! The only improvements needed is the ability to filter to exclude hyphens (Full Expiring List no digits no hyphens) and ability to enter a max character amount. If can't enter a max character amount, then have option of ranges like domain length <=10, <=15, <=20, and <=25.
     
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  22. MaxHarrison

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    Hey thanks for the feedback Domaingel -everything you said made sense, will look to adding the changes in our next release.

    Thank you :)
     
  23. Domaingel

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    One more thing, can you move the navigation for the domain search results from the bottom right side to the left side. The text size is really small for the domains, so I zoom in to 150% and then have to scroll to the right each time to go to the next set of domains.
     
  24. James Iles

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    I backordered what I thought was epiphany.com a couple of years ago. Turned out to be ephiphany.com. That was my biggest mistake/regret in terms of expired domains!
     
  25. Sperry8

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    Funny... I picked up ReggaeSongs.com at drop. Held it for 2 years and then sold it last year. Was one of my 'winners'. I've still got lots of drops I picked up that weren't as good. It takes time to find nice drops... and sometimes you end up with some that you wish you didn't get. But then ones like reggaesongs make back the money. My advice to others is to start slow. I shot of the gate buying drops too aggressively and now I am much smarter at what names I want and ascertaining whether they are good for me or not.
     

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