Prophet Muhammad Cartoons Not Funny

[dgridley]

I'll come right out and say it: there's nothing funny about the recent prophet Muhammad cartoons published in the Danish newspapers (and, consequently, picked up by various other media outlets throughout the world). In this day and age of political correctness, doesn't respect for another's religious beliefs supercede our "right" to freedom of the Press? The same newspapers that wouldn't dream of printing an off-color sexually oriented joke apparently have no problem alienating an entire segment of the human race by denigrating that which is most important to them: their religion.

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[CrazyTech]

It should stop for all religions because it's not just Islam that goes through this. The difference is the other religions of the world (be it a "radical" wing or not) don't go out and riot, destroy, and kill.

 

[plasmadrip]

Do you have a link to where they're actually selling T-Shirts? I enjoyed the cartoons.

 

[dgridley]

Yes, I know where they're selling t-shirts, and, no, I won't post the link. You obviously missed the point of my post.

Do you have a link to where they're actually selling T-Shirts? I enjoyed the cartoons.

Do some reading on Christian history (for example) and you'll soon discover how wrong that statement is.

The difference is the other religions of the world (be it a "radical" wing or not) don't go out and riot, destroy, and kill.

 

[plasmadrip]

You obviously missed the point of my post.

I didnt miss the point. I dont feel the same way about it as most people. Its a cartoon, move on. Can you PM me the link?

 

[dchesterton]

Maybe the cartoons were offensive to Islam. But what about the Muslim cleric, Abu Hamza al-Masri, it is now thought that two of the bombers on July 7th visited his mosque and it's quite likely he had a part to play. How comes he can preach about killing British citizens in our own country, yet a cartoon is published, not even in there own country, and they take part in riots and kill people.

Doesn't anyone else see the hypocrisy?

 

[CrazyTech]

Do some reading on Christian history (for example) and you'll soon discover how wrong that statement is.

I'd like to hear more about them - perhaps you should inform me. I can cite several recent accounts that show evidence to the contrary.

 

[dgridley]

Agreed.. there appears to be an agenda at work here.. but my point is: if the wound is festering, you heal it.. you don't push the knife in a little deeper.

Maybe the cartoons were offensive to Islam. But what about the Muslim cleric, Abu Hamza al-Masri, it is now thought that two of the bombers on July 7th visited his mosque and it's quite likely he had a part to play. How comes he can preach about killing British citizens in our own country, yet a cartoon is published, not even in there own country, and they take part in riots and kill people.

Doesn't anyone else see the hypocrisy?

No..

Can you PM me the link?

How about the Crusaders, the Jesuits, the Inquisition, etc.. My point was the Christians have an equally bloody heritage in the name of religion.

I'd like to hear more about them - perhaps you should inform me. I can cite several recent accounts that show evidence to the contrary.

 

[charbar]

It should stop for all religions because it's not just Islam that goes through this. The difference is the other religions of the world (be it a "radical" wing or not) don't go out and riot, destroy, and kill.

..and there are soooooo many of them!!!

 

[Peter]

I'd like to hear more about them - perhaps you should inform me. I can cite several recent accounts that show evidence to the contrary.

How about how the catholic church aided the Nazi's with rounding up Jews and other people uring the second world war. When people saught refuge with the catholic church they handed them over to the nazi's.

they did this basically to ensure that the catholic church qould not be harmed in any way by the nazi's

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/church_in_nazi_germany.htm
http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm

Also go find out what lengths christianity took too ensure that it spread throughout the world and what it did if people did not wih to change.

Almost every religion has a bloody history wether it be mainstream or fanatics. That is not of course going to excuse what seems to be alot of muslims are doing at the moment.

In our work there is a muslim who actually came out and said after september the 11th that America deserved it. I live in Britian but for an american company, his comment was passed onto the very top boys in the company (NCR) and the decreed that the next time he steps out of line he will be sacked which in my opinion is too late he should have already been sacked for the comment.

 

[foamgreen]

I am getting sick of Fundermentalist Muslim hotheads over here in london,thier oppresive get what you can and give nothing back, violent, hypocritical, & ignorant Tactics are going to turn tollerant people into racist's.
This campaign of violence disguised as religion is going to make the lives of good peace loving INTERGRATED muslim's living in england very difficult, but i dont think they really care, even about there own people, just like in Afghanistan with the Taliban,FEAR is the weapon of choice, Good Muslim's are to scared to stand up to these people.
Surely when a muslim decides to come and live in Europe or USA,and take advantage of ALL it has to offer they know darn well OUR society and views are different to their's, So why do they come? I wonder $$$$$
$Religion$ Who Needs It? Hypocrisy on a global scale!

 

[HHDomains]

I'll come right out and say it: there's nothing funny about the recent prophet Muhammad cartoons published in the Danish newspapers (and, consequently, picked up by various other media outlets throughout the world). In this day and age of political correctness, doesn't respect for another's religious beliefs supercede our "right" to freedom of the Press?

First of all I agree that the cartoons were not that funny, except the "we're out of virgins" one. I thought that was quite funny with the still smouldering suicide bombers unable to claim their prize.

Secondly, no, in this day and age of political correctness, another's religious beliefs do not supercede our right to freedom of the press and freedom of speech. Hopefully political correctness will start to fade away and people will stop being so damned sensitive and quit whining over the smallest little slight.

 

[dgridley]

Don't get me wrong.. I can see the humor intended but I'm not a Muslim.. what I don't find humorous is the media's inclination to prostitute itself for an extra circulation dollar, rather than use some common sense and report on the controversy, yet refrain from reprinting the offending cartoons.

First of all I agree that the cartoons were not that funny, except the "we're out of virgins" one. I thought that was quite funny with the still smouldering suicide bombers unable to claim their prize.

Secondly, no, in this day and age of political correctness, another's religious beliefs do not supercede our right to freedom of the press and freedom of speech. Hopefully political correctness will start to fade away and people will stop being so damned sensitive and quit whining over the smallest little slight.

 

[brewmonkey]

I am curious though if there was going to be such outrage over the cartoons why now? Why did it not happen when they originally ran, back in September?

Where is the same "shock" over the images of the burning WTC that are found painted on the sides of buildings throughout the Muslim world or the many other cartoons that they have painted? Hypocritical if you ask me.

I have to say though that if you censor cartoons such as these because they might offend then where does it stop? You would have to censor almost every single thing that is out there as someone will be ofended.

Personally I found the cartoons to be in poor taste and would likewise be offended had someone done something similar based on my religion.

As for fanatics, all religions have them, you can't paint with such a wide brush but you can always be cautious.

 

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I am curious though if there was going to be such outrage over the cartoons why now? Why did it not happen when they originally ran, back in September?

Where is the same "shock" over the images of the burning WTC that are found painted on the sides of buildings throughout the Muslim world or the many other cartoons that they have painted? Hypocritical if you ask me.

I have to say though that if you censor cartoons such as these because they might offend then where does it stop? You would have to censor almost every single thing that is out there as someone will be ofended.

Personally I found the cartoons to be in poor taste and would likewise be offended had someone done something similar based on my religion.

As for fanatics, all religions have them, you can't paint with such a wide brush but you can always be cautious.

The rage now is because they were re-ran again, after they already went through this back in September.

oh, and t-shirts, are not the real cartoons, at all, they a cachus clay with a turban as a bomb and a one that says, there is a picture of muhammad on my shirt, just kidding, please don't kill me, and one of a peanuts doing the miss kicking the football thing, and he screams allah.

 

[CrazyTech]

How about the Crusaders, the Jesuits, the Inquisition, etc.. My point was the Christians have an equally bloody heritage in the name of religion.

All events that happened hundreds to thousands of years ago under far different circumstances than cartoons being depicted in newspapers. Here we go again with apples to oranges comparisons. I don't justify what was done, obviously, but these are far different circumstances. This isn't about the bloody history of one religion or another. This discussion is about Islamic radicals reacting to cartoons is it not by killing, destroying, and threatening? Christians don't do it. Hindus don't do it. Buddhists don't do it.

Take the recent Book of Daniel show that aired on NBC - I'd consider it safe to say significant numbers of the Christian population found it quite offensive. There weren't violent protests of masses burning NBC offices and kidnapping NBC workers. There was a flood of letters and emails expressing issues with the show. Why can't this be done? Hold peaceful protests if it bothers you that much.

As for the Nazi events, we could get into a very long discussion about those. Bad things were done but bad things were often done using Christianity as a shield. Much of it is nothing more than conspiracy theory as well.

Don't get me wrong.. I can see the humor intended but I'm not a Muslim.. what I don't find humorous is the media's inclination to prostitute itself for an extra circulation dollar, rather than use some common sense and report on the controversy, yet refrain from reprinting the offending cartoons.

Political cartoons have been around for quite a while.

 

[dgridley]

The difference being when you paint a broad swath to equate terrorists with Islam to make those cartoons "political" rather than humorous commentary, that's wrong as all Islamist's don't adhere to those viewpoints..

It's a few bad apple's stirring the pot.. you have the extremist radicals on the one hand and the newspapers playing right into their hands on the other.

Political cartoons have been around for quite a while.

 

[DN Tycoon]

We are talking about the now not the then as we all know these are different times and the two can not be compared. I personaly believe if these newspapers want to print such cartoons then they have all the right regardless if it is to make a point or not. Some neglect to mention or just do not know of the cartoons printed in the Islamic newspapers not only depicting other religions but showing little Jewish kids getting their heads cut off. The major issue here is the Islamic radicals that are making threats, killing and burning to protest their one sided belief system....I am tired of hearing about these people and their medieval ways..they threatin to behead people if they don't apolagize and they destroy buildings..blow themselves up killing innocent people and yet we see people defending them....they care only about themselves and their religion and nobody or nothing else...they are willing to strap bombs on their infants in the name of their religion how sick is that...It's time we put these people in their place and it's time the true people of the Muslim faith stand up and denounce this crap otherwise a big majority of people will and do relate terrorists and radicals as the way of the Muslim religion..

Freedom before religion equals freedom for all!

 

[dgridley]

Just to clarify, no one (I think) is defending the actions of the Extremists.. my comments are meant to point out that those cartoons are "also" offensive to ordinary devout muslims.

I just don't see the need for opportunists to capitalize on the issue by reprinting the cartoons.

1) it plays into the hands of the Radicals, and

2) it's disrepectful in general.

I've seen fights break out over a misdirected "Yo Mama!".. so this isn't hard to believe some might get upset over it.

and yet we see people defending them....!

 

[brewmonkey]

The rage now is because they were re-ran again, after they already went through this back in September.

oh, and t-shirts, are not the real cartoons, at all, they a cachus clay with a turban as a bomb and a one that says, there is a picture of muhammad on my shirt, just kidding, please don't kill me, and one of a peanuts doing the miss kicking the football thing, and he screams allah.

There was "rage" in September? As someone who is on top of current events I do not recall a single incident over this when it first happened, and I distinctly remember seeing the cartoons on several blogs.