I have stumbled on to something which is somewhat shocking and affects all of us. There are several forum members who have assisted me in the end of my investigation and know that this is true what I am about to say.
I have generated a long list of 3 letter domains i was following and knew exactly when what was expiring when and knew therefor when approx the drop dates would be. I back ordered these domains through all the major drop catch services so increase my changes. So far so good you probably think, right?
Most of the domains never ended up on any drop list, not on the one od pool, snapnames etc. They simply were not mentioned anywhere however when adding these domains to my snapnames and pool accounts I could see that these domains were in fact dropping that day or the next day for example. Why werent these names placed on the lists I wondered in the beginnning.
Domain after domain dropped and although I was listed with all main drop services including those that were affiliated with the original registrar, not once did i get even into some form of auction so I couldnt understand which drop service was catching these names.
Then finally I checked with one domain that had dropped to see what happened with it and it was transfered to the name server of pool. Thats funny as I had a backorder with them but they told me they were unsuccessful in catching the domain. (remember this domain also was on no list anywhere). So now i smelt BS. I then started tracking each and every domain that I had backordered over the last few weeks and that had dropped but that had never appeared on any list from any drop service or registrar.
And after carefully going through whois data etc and searching through face company names etc, I discovered that I was able to track nearly every one of those domains to two people / organizations who are big heavy weights in the registrar and domaining business. I have been able to connect these buyers to owners of registrars and drop services and I will probably end up getting shot LOL but seriously, this is ****ed up. I know some of you might thing i am drunk or something but I swear that I am speaking the truth.
I mean just think about it logically and ask your self these questions:
1) Why are a good number of highly valuable domains that are dropping each day not appearing on any of the drop lists?
2) Why does it seem that a drop service catches domains for the same people while others that have backordered the domain (ME) as well never even get invited to any form of auction or whatever. (This is really rigged)
3) How can it be that 13 out of 15 lll.com and lll.net that expired over days all end up with the same guys and that snapnames, pool.com etc were unable to catch it for me. Who is then catching all these great domains suddenly?
Something else what is somewhat funny and is related however I am unable to explain at this moment is the official Icann list of registrars. http://www.icann.org/registrars/accredited-list.html
Do me a favour and clicks one a large number of links of US registrars and Canadian registrars. Many either dont work or all get forwarded to the same couple of registrars and especially to Enom. How unproffesional is this of Icann that they cant even keep their list of accredited registrars updated as it seems this hasnt been done in many years. This is a laugh. These guys are the ones supposed to keep the internet going in a proper fashion.
Last but not least, guys read this, you be suprised. Its from the Icann round table meeting in Marocco where all the big damainers, registrars, Icann etc met to discuss the business. Funnily the people that i traced to buying all these domains lately were also present :hehe:
The big guy at Demandmedia, Paul Stahura, which owns Enom and which focusses on getting great domains so as to run ppc ads on them, came up with a great plan which basically suggests that only the domains should drop which are worth less then reg fee and that they should money out of the good ones and split revenue with Ican, registrars etc. Thats horse.shike
http://icannwiki.org/LongTail_Domain_Proposal
Well with this I sign off, I am completely fed up with this BS. I think the feds should do an investigation as this is certainly illegal as they are (have) created a possition at which they completely controll all segments of the market and the release a good name here or there to keep us normal guys happy and we start bidding like idiots on snapnames for a mediocre domain.
I have generated a long list of 3 letter domains i was following and knew exactly when what was expiring when and knew therefor when approx the drop dates would be. I back ordered these domains through all the major drop catch services so increase my changes. So far so good you probably think, right?
Most of the domains never ended up on any drop list, not on the one od pool, snapnames etc. They simply were not mentioned anywhere however when adding these domains to my snapnames and pool accounts I could see that these domains were in fact dropping that day or the next day for example. Why werent these names placed on the lists I wondered in the beginnning.
Domain after domain dropped and although I was listed with all main drop services including those that were affiliated with the original registrar, not once did i get even into some form of auction so I couldnt understand which drop service was catching these names.
Then finally I checked with one domain that had dropped to see what happened with it and it was transfered to the name server of pool. Thats funny as I had a backorder with them but they told me they were unsuccessful in catching the domain. (remember this domain also was on no list anywhere). So now i smelt BS. I then started tracking each and every domain that I had backordered over the last few weeks and that had dropped but that had never appeared on any list from any drop service or registrar.
And after carefully going through whois data etc and searching through face company names etc, I discovered that I was able to track nearly every one of those domains to two people / organizations who are big heavy weights in the registrar and domaining business. I have been able to connect these buyers to owners of registrars and drop services and I will probably end up getting shot LOL but seriously, this is ****ed up. I know some of you might thing i am drunk or something but I swear that I am speaking the truth.
I mean just think about it logically and ask your self these questions:
1) Why are a good number of highly valuable domains that are dropping each day not appearing on any of the drop lists?
2) Why does it seem that a drop service catches domains for the same people while others that have backordered the domain (ME) as well never even get invited to any form of auction or whatever. (This is really rigged)
3) How can it be that 13 out of 15 lll.com and lll.net that expired over days all end up with the same guys and that snapnames, pool.com etc were unable to catch it for me. Who is then catching all these great domains suddenly?
Something else what is somewhat funny and is related however I am unable to explain at this moment is the official Icann list of registrars. http://www.icann.org/registrars/accredited-list.html
Do me a favour and clicks one a large number of links of US registrars and Canadian registrars. Many either dont work or all get forwarded to the same couple of registrars and especially to Enom. How unproffesional is this of Icann that they cant even keep their list of accredited registrars updated as it seems this hasnt been done in many years. This is a laugh. These guys are the ones supposed to keep the internet going in a proper fashion.
Last but not least, guys read this, you be suprised. Its from the Icann round table meeting in Marocco where all the big damainers, registrars, Icann etc met to discuss the business. Funnily the people that i traced to buying all these domains lately were also present :hehe:
The big guy at Demandmedia, Paul Stahura, which owns Enom and which focusses on getting great domains so as to run ppc ads on them, came up with a great plan which basically suggests that only the domains should drop which are worth less then reg fee and that they should money out of the good ones and split revenue with Ican, registrars etc. Thats horse.shike
http://icannwiki.org/LongTail_Domain_Proposal
Well with this I sign off, I am completely fed up with this BS. I think the feds should do an investigation as this is certainly illegal as they are (have) created a possition at which they completely controll all segments of the market and the release a good name here or there to keep us normal guys happy and we start bidding like idiots on snapnames for a mediocre domain.
Its pretty complex though.
