domain Please Appraise My First Ever .ws Domain, Schools.ws, is it Worth the $ or Not?

[ForGrab]

Hmmm... I just registered the domain name today: Schools.WS for $15.98 on namecheap.

My intention is to list on sedo for sales, honestly this is my first .ws domain.

Schools.ws , how cool is this?, Please Appraise, Thanks for your time.

 

[techgal128]

I'd avoid ws domains as much as you can. I own one simply for the parking revenue. You can try xx since it's a decent keyword but the extension really kills it.

 

[ForGrab]

:hi:Thanks for replying, wow so you own a .ws just for the parking revenues and you are advising that one stays away from .ws???

On the other hand if it's really fetching you revenues for just parking then you should develop a formal site and convert those traffic into parental leads that way you can earn more.

I actually don't buy domains to park them, i only register domains that i can also use so that if it doesn't sell i develop them myself, or forward them to my existing sites after a while.

Once again, many thanks for replying, i appreciate.

 

[techgal128]

It doesn't get a whole lot of traffic and the keyword is a bit hard to develop. General ws domains are going the way of pw domains. At first they were thought to take off but all the people who bought them realized that it was never going to happen.

 

[Kate]

For resale purpose, I can't recommend them.
In fact, I can't recommend them for anything but good luck.

 

[Name Trader]

It's very hard to sell .ws domains. Very, very hard. Why do you think it is that schools was available in the .ws extension but in practically nothing else? That's for a reason. Regfee or less.

 

[lobos]

had casinoroyale before but the extension did kill it

 

[enterscope]

It's a pretty decent short domain imo depends on the end-user.

 

[ForGrab]

Thank you all for you replies, i really appreciate.... i was really short of words after reading your posts mainly because you can not cancel .ws domain order once you make them and i have never tried .ws domains before.
I also got 2 mails from 2 strangers yesterday requesting to purchase this domain instantly, i was even more than puzzled than short of words.

So i spent the rest of the day doing research on .ws domains for others like me out there, to know if i needed to source & register more or convert into private mail and also i inquired/requested for more private appraisal, and the namepros user enscope who posted above me was actually right.

This is what i got or should i say a sum up of the appraisals i recieved:

Value indicators For Schools.ws :
1.) Is the domain Pronounceable? - Yes
2.) How many characters are in the domain? - 7
3.) If a short character domain, are they premium letters? - School, schools, sch
4.) Is the domain currently developed? - Not Applicable
5.) If developed, how many pages are indexed? - Not Applicable
6.) If developed, Is it original or duplicate content? - Not Applicable
7.) Was the domain previously developed? - No
8.) Does the domain currently generate any Revenue? - Not Applicable
9.) What are a few development possibilities for this domain? - Online teaching portal, School Directory site, such as colleges site, kindergarten or high school site, School gossip or school trends site, school events sites.
10.) What is the obvious target market(s)? - Directories, Universities, training colleges, High schools, preparatory examination sites, worldwide students meet up zone
12.) Is there any keyword competition? - Yes, lots
13.) What are the top competing sites for this domain? -- first-school.ws, schools.com, schools.org greatschools.org, firstschool.net, w3schools.com, firstschoolyears.com, firstschooldayton.com,firstschoolinc.com, lindberghschools.ws, ccsd.ws, leisd.ws, wusd.ws,
14.) What is the Alexa score? - Not Applicable
15.) What is the root domain PageRank (PR)? - 0
16.) Is the domain a dictionary word? - Yes
17.) What language is the domain? - English, Dictionary word
18.) Does the language of the domain match the extension? - Yes
19.) How many backlinks does the domain have? - Not applicable
20.) lengthy/Short Domain--- Short domain
21.) Is this domain a Trademark (TM)? - Not Applicable
22.) Is this domain a trend that has a limited window of opportunity? - No
23.) How old is the domain? - (3 days old)
24.) Is the domain taken in other top extensions? - Yes
25.) Is the domain brandable? - Yes
26.) Does the domain have any traffic? - Not applicable/ Not monitored
27.) If traffic, What are the traffic sources? - Not Applicable
28.)Memorability- Yes
29.)Typographical errors or misspellings -- No
30).Number of searches of schools--- High
31).Added numbers --No
31).Number of searches of it's component words: sch, school --- High
32).Plural or singular word domain: Plural domains.
33). An example of one seo friendly .ws domain in the same keyword niche that has been developed -- First-School.ws

.WS is a globally accessible top level domain that works just like .COM and .NET. Anyone, anywhere, can register a .WS domain and establish a personal internet address for life.
They are very SEO friendly once submitted to search engines, developed or attached to a website. They really rank well and this is equal to traffics. This is actually the reason why website.ws, Auction.ws & group are investing into this tld because the understand the value.
Almost all top keywords of .ws are redirecting to their sites, This is not for fancy or decorations they mean business..

Lessons: Do not follow what the crowd says always, learn to do your research... If you own a highly sourced keyword of .ws domain today develop it or put it up for sale, if you want to park them for monetary exchange make sure you submit them to search engines too, your chances of earning more increases.
Never Let It Drop.

 

[johname]

i have never tried .ws domains before. So i spent the rest of the day doing research on .ws domains

You need to research these things before buying

I also got 2 mails from 2 strangers yesterday requesting to purchase this domain instantly, i was even more than puzzled than short of words.

I was long for words, but ill keep it short, It would be apprasail scams. Dont pay for aprasails.

The namepros user enscope who posted above me was actually right.

That its short and depends on the endusers interest?

13.) What are the top competing sites for this domain? -- first-school.ws, schools.com, schools.org greatschools.org, firstschool.net, w3schools.com, firstschoolyears.com, firstschooldayton.com,firstschoolinc.com, lindberghschools.ws, ccsd.ws, leisd.ws, wusd.ws,

First of all why would schools.com not even bother buying its ws namesake for $16, I understand it was regged before but still.

lindberghschools.ws what would they say if you offer to sell schools.ws to them? You would get a sorry we're only interested in lindberghschools keyword.

Lessons: Do not follow what the crowd says.

When it comes to basic principles the crowd can be very right

highly sourced keyword

**** This is the main point of my posting, ignore the rest if you want. I feel you have this keyword too valued in this extension. If it was school.ws I would say good job. But plural and a ws feels like its not There a reason school.ws been off the table for a long time and you were able to hand reg schools.ws yesterday. We all know this and we all read about people having great difficulties selling ws domains that would be desirable in any better extension.

You can develop a schools in Samoa site, I think that would be a nice site that would be appreciated by the islanders and make the $16 a neat experiment.

Never Let It Drop.

Means never cutting loses

 

[ForGrab]

had casinoroyale before but the extension did kill it

:wave: Actually, What you did with it killed it not the tld.
If you had packed it without submitting to search engine how do you earn?.
Did you develop it, If yes then your site content were not atleast 69% optimized.
If thats not the case then the idea for the developed site was not uniqued, promoted or strategized enough.
.WS domains work like .com & .net.Think again am i far from the truth?

 

[Kate]

Any domain can be developed. That doesn't mean it has built-in value.

 

[ForGrab]

First-School.ws is killing it already on the web for all search engines

Thanks alot for your input, i didn't say do not follow what the crowd says, i place my emphasis on the word "always" and that is why i encouraged a research first it doesn't cost anything.

Am experienced enough not to fall for appraisal scams, i won't even reply those kind of mails.
tlds are not robots so you must invest an input to recieve an output.

A .ws domain works just like .com & .net, there are lots of unregistered highly sourced keywords out there.
Most people think those keywords are gone already so they don't even search for it.
So the fact that it is registered newly does not count as not relevant.

For example experts.xxx no one has registered this domain as at the time of the post but check back in few days after this post someone will snap that name.

experts.xxx, someone who runs an xxx website already who sees this post, will quickly pick it up now because it what provides more room for xxx stuffs and that is a plural domain.

Talking about plural domains, Right now school.com is not yet developed for any publication but schools.com is up & running.
What do you make of this?, does it mean that school.com isn't worth anything?.

You need to research these things before buying

I was long for words, but ill keep it short, It would be apprasail scams. Dont pay for aprasails.



That its short and depends on the endusers interest?




First of all why would schools.com not even bother buying its ws namesake for $16, I understand it was regged before but still.

lindberghschools.ws what would they say if you offer to sell schools.ws to them? You would get a sorry we're only interested in lindberghschools keyword.




When it comes to basic principles the crowd can be very right

**** This is the main point of my posting, ignore the rest if you want. I feel you have this keyword too valued in this extension. If it was school.ws I would say good job. But plural and a ws feels like its not There a reason school.ws been off the table for a long time and you were able to hand reg schools.ws yesterday. We all know this and we all read about people having great difficulties selling ws domains that would be desirable in any better extension.

You can develop a schools in Samoa site, I think that would be a nice site that would be appreciated by the islanders and make the $16 a neat experiment.

Means never cutting loses

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Any domain can be developed. That doesn't mean it has built-in value.

Exactly, it's your idea, uniqueness, strategies, implementations and Inputs that counts.
If your have a great keyword domain lucky you, A keyword that interprets & speaks for your niche or area of expertise then you have an advantage, some work will be cut short but that does not mean you that can sit back and relax Last i checked there will be competition.

 

[johname]

Talking about plural domains, Right now school.com is not yet developed for any publication but schools.com is up & running.
What do you make of this?, does it mean that school.com isn't worth anything?.

School.com was used in the past to funnel users into officedepot. Office Depot sold it to a big time domain investor that I am sure will do something awesome with the domain in due time. Nice to see he doesn't have to drain parking income out of the site until then.

Goodluck with your name

 

[4pm]

A .ws domain works just like .com & .net, there are lots of unregistered highly sourced keywords out there.
Most people think those keywords are gone already so they don't even search for it.

there's another common (but not popular among .ws enthusiasts) and easy explanation of why there are tons of keywords freely avail to register in .ws, .nu, .so, .tel, .mobi etc etc - called "no demand" ..
but you probably are not going to accept it until your second or third renewal

good luck anyway


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[Name Trader]

Typical noob defending their position in the face of overwhelming opposite views from experienced domainers.

I know you said developed before. But it has been registered before. Check out archive.org. If it was such a great domain why was it dropped?

the language spoken in Western Samoa is Samoan, not English.

I know google has a majority share of the search market, but it is only Google which treats this .ws as a gtld. Afaik, the other search engines don't.

I'd be shocked if it is getting any residual or natural traffic.

As sdsinc says, any domain can be developed. You only hope for this domain is fully developing this domain. Nobody is going to buy this domain unless it's making serious money. That requires serious money for development.

Nobody wants a .ws, Western Samoa domain. Not even the people who live in Western Samoa (apparently).

All you have mentioned to justify your purchase are just words. they mean very little. Come back here and tell us when you have sold this domain for the huge profit you are obviously expecting. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

 

[sbweb]

You came in here for an opinion from others regarding your domain. You got it.

Because you don't like the answers being provided, you're trying to convince us that we should like it.

Unless the domain is pulling in massive type-in traffic, it does not have any value. Even if you were to develop the domain, I would still dislike it for the simple fact that it has an ugly ccTLD, being promoted as something else.

 

[lll]

< reg fee

 

[domains_for_sale]

You know it is okay to give someone constructive advice, but come on...most of you are just being hateful and totally out of line with your appraisals. This person was rightfully excited about registering a good domain and you may not like the extension, but to say it is only worth "reg fee" shows that you have a lot to learn about domain values.

undeveloped = low to mid xxx

developed = really skies the limit

Visit namebio and see the latest .ws sales reported and this will help give you an idea of what you may get for it. Also I recommend getting your name professionally appraised and I like to use Afternic.

BTW: This extension is widely promoted as a gTLD.

 

[sbweb]

You know it is okay to give someone constructive advice, but come on...most of you are just being hateful and totally out of line with your appraisals. This person was rightfully excited about registering a good domain and you may not like the extension, but to say it is only worth "reg fee" shows that you have a lot to learn about domain values.

undeveloped = low to mid xxx

developed = really skies the limit

Visit namebio and see the latest .ws sales reported and this will help give you an idea of what you may get for it. Also I recommend getting your name professionally appraised and I like to use Afternic.

BTW: This extension is widely promoted as a gTLD.

I don't think anyone is trying to be hateful, just trying to be realistic. It does no good to give a newbie false hope when he is trying to learn the domaining business. The reality is - it's not an easy business, especially if your budget is hand registered domains.

Any domain that is developed can be successful, so there's really no point in telling someone that. Even the ugliest domain with the ugliest TLD can be successful if you have a good business plan.

I just checked namebio for .ws, and the latest sales data I see are from 2011. Marketing and hype drove that market somewhat, but like .co, I don't see a great future for this ccTLD.

You can promote it as a gTLD all you want, but the fact remains, it is a ccTLD. It's like selling apples and promoting it as oranges. It'll still taste and look like an apple.

 

[johname]

I just checked namebio for .ws, and the latest sales data I see are from 2011.

You have to move the amount slider down to it's lowest value ($100) and you get 15 dot ws sales for 2013, Yippee! 13 for 2012

So there is about one dot ws sale a month, that's = or > then $100 (and great majority of them under $200) and reported.

 

[sbweb]

You have to move the amount slider down to it's lowest value ($100) and you get 15 dot ws sales for 2013, Yippee! 13 for 2012

So there is about one dot ws sale a month, that's = or > then $100 (and great majority of them under $200) and reported.

OK.

Well, what I noticed about those domains are that they all used to have a website on them at one point or another. Meaning they were sold due to their historic data and/or link popularity, not necessarily because the domain is so awesome.

 

[Kate]

Visit namebio and see the latest .ws sales reported and this will help give you an idea of what you may get for it.

Yeah, let's talk about the latest sales. How recent are they by the way ? How often do .ws domains sell ?
A few domain sales are observed in pretty much every TLD but that doesn't means there is a market for an exotic extension, just because there have been a few sales

Also I recommend getting your name professionally appraised and I like to use Afternic.

Excuse me but are you serious ? Appraisals are pointless, they are for ego boosting only. It's guaranteed that the name will be appraised > regfee, but that doesn't mean somebody will buy it.

BTW: This extension is widely promoted as a gTLD.

Just like .pw and so many others. But it has been around for a decade and never took off.
.ws = .was.

Bottom line: any domain can be developed. But .ws is not the right extension for pure play domaining purposes.

 

[domains_for_sale]

I don't think anyone is trying to be hateful, just trying to be realistic. It does no good to give a newbie false hope when he is trying to learn the domaining business. The reality is - it's not an easy business, especially if your budget is hand registered domains.

Any domain that is developed can be successful, so there's really no point in telling someone that. Even the ugliest domain with the ugliest TLD can be successful if you have a good business plan.

I just checked namebio for .ws, and the latest sales data I see are from 2011. Marketing and hype drove that market somewhat, but like .co, I don't see a great future for this ccTLD.

You can promote it as a gTLD all you want, but the fact remains, it is a ccTLD. It's like selling apples and promoting it as oranges. It'll still taste and look like an apple.

So, you believe it is realistic to say that .ws is worthless when there are public sales over low x,xxx, some names might be pretty closely aligned in value with the users domain.

Bigoo.ws was the last sale reported on Namebio. It sold for $5,365 in September of 2012, but you do realize there are a lot more sales done privately and some of those sales could be much higher.

I guess my point is why sit there and make someone feel bad about asking for a little appraisal. To be honest if this user is really new to the game I applaud him for finding such a high quality domain name available where most domainers starting out make big BIG mistakes.

Domaining is a tough business and people of this industry often dismiss the fact that we can help each other grow by being respectful to one another. What good does it do to discourage someone from this business? It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the more people getting involved with domaining the more we will see the aftermarket grow and those domains in your portfolio will be worth a lot more. This beating each other up also hurts your chances of selling domain names, people get turned off by the constant negativity.

Personally I like seeing new domainers and I also like to hear about successful aftermarket sales and developments and I really do not care what the extension is. As long as you are following the registration rules give this business a whirl.

 

[sbweb]

So, you believe it is realistic to say that .ws is worthless when there are public sales over low x,xxx, some names might be pretty closely aligned in value with the users domain.

Bigoo.ws was the last sale reported on Namebio. It sold for $5,365 in September of 2012, but you do realize there are a lot more sales done privately and some of those sales could be much higher.

I guess my point is why sit there and make someone feel bad about asking for a little appraisal. To be honest if this user is really new to the game I applaud him for finding such a high quality domain name available where most domainers starting out make big BIG mistakes.

Domaining is a tough business and people of this industry often dismiss the fact that we can help each other grow by being respectful to one another. What good does it do to discourage someone from this business? It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the more people getting involved with domaining the more we will see the aftermarket grow and those domains in your portfolio will be worth a lot more. This beating each other up also hurts your chances of selling domain names, people get turned off by the constant negativity.

Personally I like seeing new domainers and I also like to hear about successful aftermarket sales and developments and I really do not care what the extension is. As long as you are following the registration rules give this business a whirl.

No one is beating him up. Everyone is speaking from their mind without sugar coating, but I don't see any disrespect, imo.

Trust me, I want people to be successful, but I'm not going to sit here and sugar coat things for people so they feel better about themselves.