Parking and search engine question

[Bampa]

Hi all,

I should know the answer to this elementary question, but I don't. I could use some help.

Question: With names parked at sedo, fabulous and bodis, do I need to submit each parked name to search engines or is this done by the parking company. And if I do need to submit, do I use a free online site that shoots them all over, or just do it manually to the big three? Or is all of this just a waste of time?

Also, do spiders ignore names parked at these companies?

Thanks very much for any help.

Bampa

 

[blaknite]

At least for google, if your page is parked google will see it as an empty page. I had a name from an ex site that was indexed. After google updated their index the "site:www.domainname.com" link showed that google sees the name as having no description and no content.

Many may disagree with me on this, but I'd say don't bother. Search engines arent going to send you traffic to a parked page. Your page is of no value to their customers who are looking for content. If you don't have a site with content they don't have any reason to send you traffic.

 

[netmeg]

Actually, I disagree with the above. I have at least one parked domain (which was brand new when I registered it this summer - never previously owned) which currently ranks #2 in Google for the particular event. Don't ask me why, but it does. Have lots of others in the top 20, and most of them are on their way up.

Of course, it helps greatly to be able to set the title and the meta description tags, and to be able to add at least some content to the page.

 

[dherwan]

I also find some parking name get top 10 at Google SERP and they get a good PR.

 

[firefly]

My question is this.

Is it against parking providers terms of service to submit your domains to search engines?

Have been trying to get an answer from Bodis for a couple of weeks now and haven't got one.

I have read the terms of service but being still quite new at this,i quite don't understand that part of it.

Any advice or info would be appreciated :hehe:

 

[kriss05]

My question is this.

Is it against parking providers terms of service to submit your domains to search engines?

Have been trying to get an answer from Bodis for a couple of weeks now and haven't got one.

I have read the terms of service but being still quite new at this,i quite don't understand that part of it.

Any advice or info would be appreciated :hehe:

You not only can submit your parked pages to search engines, you MUST do it. All parking companies at least accept two types of traffic which is called "natural" one:

1. type-in traffic, when people type in domain name into browser.

2. search engine traffic which comes from search engine result page. If your domain is not indexed by search engine, you will not get this kind of 100% legit traffic.

Example below is from NameDrive Terms and Conditions:

"Traffic:
Traffic on domains parked with NameDrive can originate from two sources only: type in
(direct navigation) traffic and existing search engine results / expired traffic. All other types of
traffic including bought traffic, traffic driven by PPC campaigns, traffic directed from
hyperlinks are not permitted. If your traffic originates from any sources other than type-in and
search engine traffic, it must first be cleared with NameDrive LLC. "

At least for google, if your page is parked google will see it as an empty page. I had a name from an ex site that was indexed. After google updated their index the "site:www.domainname.com" link showed that google sees the name as having no description and no content.

Many may disagree with me on this, but I'd say don't bother. Search engines arent going to send you traffic to a parked page. Your page is of no value to their customers who are looking for content. If you don't have a site with content they don't have any reason to send you traffic.

If the page is indexed, you can check its cached version in google, if parking company does alow caching. For example, I own 2010Christmas dot com. It is parked at Sedo for few months. If you type in "site:2010christmas.com" google will return a link for this domain with description. This is the same with other hundreds of domains I own.

Sometimes, I agree, search engines will return only a link itself without description for "site:mydomainname.com" command. I can be wrong but it is because, for example, domain indeed has no content at all or it was expired and dropped and regged again but not reindexed by search engines yet.

 

[firefly]

Thank you

Thanks for that information.

It's amazing what people like me don't know and help and answers from people like yourself is vital and extremely helpful.

Guess i've been doing myself out of money
:hehe:

Thanks for the answer

Have added rep.

 

[kriss05]

NamePros forum is your friend. Ask and you always be answered.

Good luck!

 

[ferraristi]

Sorry to hijack thread with another question but it is related. In the above extract from Namedrive's TOS it says that traffic from links is forbidden. The problem is that if you purchase a dropped domain and it already has lots of links out on the net, there's not really much you can do about it is there?

 

[dewaji]

I have another question: how about if I make a subdomain and make blog or something, then redirect the visitor to the main domian. Is it okay ?

 

[nscdn]

Sorry to hijack thread with another question but it is related. In the above extract from Namedrive's TOS it says that traffic from links is forbidden. The problem is that if you purchase a dropped domain and it already has lots of links out on the net, there's not really much you can do about it is there?

Existing links are not a problem, and is one of the reasons that people snap up expired domains that had decent traffic.

 

[kriss05]

Sorry to hijack thread with another question but it is related. In the above extract from Namedrive's TOS it says that traffic from links is forbidden. The problem is that if you purchase a dropped domain and it already has lots of links out on the net, there's not really much you can do about it is there?

Below is what NameDrive team thinks of domain with backlinks:

Allowed "...Expired traffic (i.e. hyperlinks, again before the name was parked)"

You can find full post here:
http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?p=2135273&posted=1#post2135273

I have another question: how about if I make a subdomain and make blog or something, then redirect the visitor to the main domian. Is it okay ?

This is OK, at least for NameDrive. They even recently have added option, so-called "Catch All" option which "...means that you catch all traffic to your domain, including sub domains and index pages. e.g. news.mydomain.com and mydomain.com/news. Some users have requested the option to turn this off so the ONLY traffic arriving on your domain is the traffic on www.mydomain.com and mydomain.com. Any other traffic is dropped. This option will almost certainly lead to a drop in traffic, so we suggest leaving it on “Yes”."

Full description of new ND options can be found here:
http://blog.namedrive.com/?p=108

And I think this is OK for all parking companies because if you simply change nameservers to parking company ones, all of your subdomains will be forwarded to main domain automatically.

 

[NPKJB]

When you speak about "Type-In Traffic", what does it refer to?


Is it based on:

<base href="http://www.insertdomainname.com">
or
<title>"Insert Title of the Website"</title>

 

[dewaji]

thanks kriss05.
I think, it's cleared now, at least for namedrive service.
Anyone from parked.com (donny), would you mind to answer this ? Cause, I allready use your parking service.

This is OK, at least for NameDrive. They even recently have added option, so-called "Catch All" option which "...means that you catch all traffic to your domain, including sub domains and index pages. e.g. news.mydomain.com and mydomain.com/news. Some users have requested the option to turn this off so the ONLY traffic arriving on your domain is the traffic on www.mydomain.com and mydomain.com. Any other traffic is dropped. This option will almost certainly lead to a drop in traffic, so we suggest leaving it on “Yes”."

Full description of new ND options can be found here:
http://blog.namedrive.com/?p=108

And I think this is OK for all parking companies because if you simply change nameservers to parking company ones, all of your subdomains will be forwarded to main domain automatically.

 

[kriss05]

When you speak about "Type-In Traffic", what does it refer to?


Is it based on:

<base href="http://www.insertdomainname.com">
or
<title>"Insert Title of the Website"</title>

Type-in traffic originates from direct navigation when users type in domain name into browser.

 

[NPKJB]

Type-in traffic originates from direct navigation when users type in domain name into browser.

Does they really happen often?

I see so many of the domain names on here that nobody in there right mind would put in the browser with .com after it.

 

[blaknite]

Does they really happen often?

I see so many of the domain names on here that nobody in there right mind would put in the browser with .com after it.

For genuine premium names, it happens all the time sometimes in the thousands per day. Were talking the kind of names that sell for $10,000 to $1,000,000 or more For pretty good names, it happens but not nearly as much. For average and poor quality names like 99% of what you see for sale it almost never happens.

 

[NPKJB]

OK... I figured that.

So when you park a domain name that isn't a type-in, what other factors drive people to your site?

With services like WhyPark, you have some content that the search engines can index.
But with traditional parking companies like Parked, Sedo, Bodis etc. how do they attract traffic?

 

[kriss05]

OK... I figured that.

So when you park a domain name that isn't a type-in, what other factors drive people to your site?

With services like WhyPark, you have some content that the search engines can index.
But with traditional parking companies like Parked, Sedo, Bodis etc. how do they attract traffic?

Some of domains may have backlinks from other sites. Traffic from some part of backlinks is legit at parkin companies like Sedo, Namedrive etc.

Search engines index parked pages "without" content as well. For search engines consider text ads on parked pages as content. Another important thinks are, for example, tag keywords, text that is placed onto parked pages (Sedo, for example, puts your jeywords into parked pages as a plain text) and so on.

It should be noted that parked pages were developed by parked companies taking into account search engine requirements.
WhyPark and Bodis, for example, have unique opportunty to place "unique" content by yourself onto parked pages. This is big advantage, of course. However, if you choose good keywords which will create relevant links, search engines will drive traffic to your Sedo, Namedrive, etc. parked pages as well.