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Outbounding - Is it considered spam in 2018?

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I keep going over this in my head, trying to evaluate it. Outbounding by definition is spam, although not the unhealthy kind usually, so how do so many report sales from end users outbound? Most of us know about the Japan Certificate Appraisal scammers....so by this definition, how does a end user differentiate between "japan scam" and "legit sale" from my email just glancing at it in the inbox?

Do you think most people even open a email that says "Domain for Sale" in the subject line?
 
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You can do if you have a high quality domain and that is an exact matched domain name for a company. Google limits gmail outgoing mails to less than 100 mails per day and anything more than that will be marked as spam.

It should be short and relevant to domain. Don't pitch in the first mail itself!

It should be like

"We have the domain name XXXXXX.com for sale and let me know if you are interested in purchasing the name"

Don't contact all employees of company and try to reach out decision makers and most probably
CEO, CFO, President, Owner, Sales Manager Or Marketing manager

Hope it helps!
 
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I think it all comes down to the emails you're sending. Are they personalized? Do they have your contact information in there? If you're sending some copy/paste generic email to hundreds of people then yes, it probably is spam and that's probably how most people see it. If the email is personalized with contact information and sent to a personalized email then not so much...
 
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In order to sell in a proactive mode, you have to conduct outbound sales. As in any sales related business, you have to outbound sell the product or service. Doesn't matter what it is. Unfortunately, we are working against a stereotype that has been created by a few. In selling, it is the Law of Averages, at some point, someone will respond and that response could be HUGE or small. You will not know until you consistently outbound. Selling is Selling. Does not matter what it is.
 
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I keep going over this in my head, trying to evaluate it. Outbounding by definition is spam, although not the unhealthy kind usually, so how do so many report sales from end users outbound? Most of us know about the Japan Certificate Appraisal scammers....so by this definition, how does a end user differentiate between "japan scam" and "legit sale" from my email just glancing at it in the inbox?

Do you think most people even open a email that says "Domain for Sale" in the subject line?

Outbound is only spam if you are selling a bad domain. If you have proper application and a reasonable price the end user will appreciate the email. I purpose registered a domain today and sold it in under two hours to someone who had a ridiculously poor domain. I simply told him of the better alternative and why it made more sense to go with the one I was offering.

Spam?.... not really, I think the client was quite grateful.
 
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If I receive an email and report it such as for example to my
www.spamcop.com
account as SPAM, some providers will shut the sender down for even one spam report. Others will take no action even after thousands of spam reports.

Any unsolicited email without an opt-out mechanism is technically Spam, but if the email is short, to the point, and friendly, chances of the recipient being annoyed to the point of reporting it are slim, and even if reported, the reasonableness, relevance and brevity of the email would probably get the sender off the hook.

Spamcop by the way sends its reports to not just the email provider and domain host but to the administrators of the backbone ISP behind the host. One of these usually does take action on a spam report.
 
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If I receive an email and report it such as for example to my
www.spamcop.com
as SPAM, some providers will shut the sender down for even one spam report. Others will take no action even after thousands of spam reports.

Any unsolicited email is technically Spam, but if the email is short, to the point, and friendly, chances of the recipient being annoyed to the point of reporting it are slim, and even if reported, the reasonableness and brevity of the email would probably get the sender off the hook.

Spamcop by way sends its reports to not just the email provider and domain host but to the administrators of the backbone behind the host.

Good point

Brings me to a subject.....

One of my companies has the word medicine and it always landed in spam because of bad Viagra ads and such on the internet. Medicine was a bad term. I switched to google apps with a custom domain and none ever land in spam.

I now use google apps exclusively and with all the outbound I have done over the years there has never been a case of my emails not landing. Now either spamcop has a soft spot for google apps or I just make really really good outbound emails. :giggle:
 
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Good point

Brings me to a subject.....

One of my companies has the word medicine and it always landed in spam because of bad Viagra ads and such on the internet. Medicine was a bad term. I switched to google apps with a custom domain and none ever land in spam.

I now use google apps exclusively and with all the outbound I have done over the years there has never been a case of my emails not landing. Now either spamcop has a soft spot for google apps or I just make really really good outbound emails. :giggle:
Nice one there. I've been trying to do outbound with my SMTP mail server but I discovered the message is always going to the spam folder (yes, I tested it with my mails). I also tried some email marketing companies and the result was still the same.

Can you shed more light of how the Google App works?
 
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You register for google apps (now called gsuite) here:
https://gsuite.google.com/

Don't be fooled, buy only one license at around $5 per month. I run multiple email accounts from 1 license. Here is my tutorial on how to do that.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/run-multiple-gsuite-gmail-accounts-on-one-license-legal.1006052/

It allows you to use your custom domain but uses the google backbone. As an experiment I discontinued it for a month and my emails went back into clients spam boxed. For me google apps makes the difference. It almost looks like network administrators are afraid to blacklist anything with google apps in the headers.

Anyways, personally I don't care too much about the logistics, I can just say I am happy my emails are consistently delivered.
 
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