Not cool.

[sasan]

Was browsing Flippa last night and came across a domain I liked. Hit the BIN button and started an Escrow.com transaction.

Woke up this morning to a message from the seller:

Googled his name only to find out that he’s a domainer, runs a website for domainers, has been a speaker at NamesCon, etc. Basically: should know better.

I get it. Sometimes you list a domain and forget to update its price. It’s happened to me. But that’s on the seller, not the buyer. And in these cases, I’ve always honoured the transaction without question and quietly given myself a talking-to after.

It would also be another thing if he had let the domain expire or no longer owned it — but he does.

Honest mistake or not, responses like this really paint our industry in a negative light. In this case, I hit BIN – that’s pretty cut and dry. But also, if you’re going to negotiate with someone (as a buyer or a seller), keep your word. If we want the industry to be respected in the mainstream, it’s our responsibility to make that happen.

Anyway, getting off my soapbox now. This was my reply:

Haven’t heard anything back yet but have no qualms about naming or shaming if the seller doesn’t follow through with this transaction.

 

[alop]

Can you tell us the domain name however ..I’m interested in what you desired to acquire lol >.>

 

[equity78]

Well the marketplace has some blame, but they can't force someone to sell. There have been cases back in the day here where a member not caring about their rep said "I ain't selling they can close my account, I will be with a new one the next day." Or like someone once told me, "Raymond I only care about money, I don't care about anyone in the domain industry, take my account, you will never take my money!!!"

Look at people here who do not honor the sale. Some just don't care about a reputation.

 

[alop]

Well the marketplace has some blame, but they can't force someone to sell. There have been cases back in the day here where a member not caring about their rep said "I ain't selling they can close my account, I will be with a new one the next day." Or like someone once told me, "Raymond I only care about money, I don't care about anyone in the domain industry, take my account, you will never take my money!!!"

They have the control it’s their marketplace afterall ..so Flippa can take 10 to 100 and something dollars and we blame the seller ?
No...

 

[dntaps]

Give him a chance to complete the deal.

If he completes the deal in the next few days, then share the domain name, NP members who are curious can check whois info for seller's details if public.

If he doesn't complete the deal in the next few days, then share his name and the domain name

imo

 

[equity78]

They have the control it’s their marketplace afterall ..so Flippa can take 10 to 100 and something dollars and we blame the seller ?
No...

Flippa has no control, they can't make you sell, they can't take a domain name out of someone's registrar account.

The minute a seller tells Flippa GO F Yourself! Flippa can only ban them. They can't force a transaction.

 

[alop]

Flippa has no control, they can't make you sell, they can't take a domain name out of someone's registrar account.

The minute a seller tells Flippa GO F Yourself! Flippa can only ban them. They can't force a transaction.

I’m saying Flippa needs to run better as a business it self ...

 

[dntaps]

I don't understand how Flippa or any marketplace can be blamed for a seller not completing or canceling a transaction.

Specific to this case, I think the seller is 100% to blame.

 

[alop]

I don't understand how Flippa or any marketplace can be blamed for a seller not completing or canceling a transaction.

Specific to this case, I think the seller is 100% to blame.

Understand with his 10 dollar fee and plus he is protected by the marketplace

 

[equity78]

I’m saying Flippa needs to run better as a business it self ...

But it's not just Flippa, I have bought names at Sedo and GoDaddy. Sedo was a 4L.com no doubt who the seller was and they said we can't make them sell. I said was it a bad listing? They said NO. Seller will not accept that price. I said it was their price. They said we will look into closing their account.

 

[alop]

But it's not just Flippa, I have bought names at Sedo and GoDaddy. Sedo was a 4L.com no doubt who the seller was and they said we can't make them sell. I said was it a bad listing? They said NO. Seller will not accept that price. I said it was their price. They said we will look into closing their account.

I know and I understand ..it’s just bad business...

 

[alop]

Sorry @Sedo @Flippa I don’t mean to point fingers either but it’s something that can be improved to run better

 

[LUP]

Googled his name only to find out that he’s a domainer, runs a website for domainers, has been a speaker at NamesCon, etc. Basically: should know better.

I just curious, who is this?

 

[alop]

Get outta here Lup lol

 

[equity78]

Sorry @Sedo @Flippa I don’t mean to point fingers either but it’s something that can be improved to run better

I agree a lot of things can be improved but there is no improvement that can make a seller refusing to sell transfer their name, none. You can ban after but it still gets no transfer and successful transaction.

 

[equity78]

I just curious, who is this?

It will be disclosed if they don't make good, he is giving them a couple days to make good.

 

[Pairadice]

there is no improvement that can make a seller refusing to sell transfer their name, none.

Somehow GD can do it with fast-transfer.. also at nameliquidate as you know you can only list there if you give the auth code... that probably wouldn't be possible for higher-value domains though. Therefore, sedo and flippa need to switch to the auth code approach or the fast-transfer approach.

 

[alop]

I agree a lot of things can be improved but there is no improvement that can make a seller refusing to sell transfer their name, none. You can ban after but it still gets no transfer and successful transaction.

As stated I’m not running the business to make your statement false

 

[sasan]

Thanks, everyone. Going to give the seller until 12 PM (PST) tomorrow to make good on this transaction. I don't think this is a decision that should require a lot of thought.

If he chooses not to honour it, I'll post his name.

Also, just sent him a link to this thread, so he can see what the community has to say.

 

[DuDD]

I'm sorry to hear that you're in trouble

AND Thank you for your sharing, so that we can pay more attention in the future when trading

In any case ,Support your choice and speak up for you

best wishes

 

[domainchampion]

Buyer needs to honor the deal. Full stop. Regardless of any reason.

I had a similar situation in Afternic, where I missed to update to $399 and instead sold at $99.

IMHO, one needs to be professional and accountable, then you will learn and be a better domainer.