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[betthelot]

As in all languages the frequency of letter use, especially Initials offers better opportunities to sell more often at higher prices.
Having studied Chinese/PinYin for 2 years, it was always apparent to me, some letters are used way more often than others.
I looked at the 1000 most used words and worked out the initial letter frequency.
This is my summary which correlates with my experience of having worked in China for 2 years. Ofcourse I will defer to any Chinese person who knows the nuances of the language but from the raw data I think its accurate and useful if investing in CHIPS. Also those letters which are considered both premium in English and Chinese must be where the smart money is.

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Yes there is E and A Notably Ai is Love and Er is the number 2

Also explains why we see some outliners. RPF are not worth as much as ZYX

 

[Eckhart]

What I learned from readin pinyin threads is that 84 means - forever prosperous. And ygx makes it 'cloud based supplies and marketing".

The meaning "forever prosperous" could come more from Cantonese rather than Mandarin. As @betthelot was saying, 84 in Mandarin leads to meanings such as "wire drawing or candy floss". But in Cantonese 84 can be translated more like "so rich that you die" according to this video:

 

[Above Domain]

this couldn't be more true. props for the conversation start.

 

[Landov]

Why a LLLL with vowels and meaning is considered less valuable than a LLLL chip with no meaning?
Only some percent from the LLLL chips will turn to mean something.

I don't see LLLL chips losing their value as they carry potential sense, but isn't logical for the ones with verified meaning to worth more even if they contain vowels?

 

[dordomai]

Why a LLLL with vowels and meaning is considered less valuable than a LLLL chip with no meaning?
Only some percent from the LLLL chips will turn to mean something.

I don't see LLLL chips losing their value as they carry potential sense, but isn't logical for the ones with verified meaning to worth more even if they contain vowels?

Makes sense. there are many pinyin domains with vowels that sold for tons of money. So even for the Chinese vowels can't be that bad. Lian.com sold for over $200k on Dropcatch.

 

[betthelot]

How about those ending in CN? E.g. gxcn, where gx is a province code for Guangxi or gscn where gs is a province code for Gansu?

They certainly will have more enduser demand. Its just the market now is driven by patterns and no V and vowels. But I believe that 4 letters are still low in price enough to have a broad base appeal to endusers. Interestingly the Chinese word for China is ZhongGuo but you never see it emblazoned on T-Shirts its always China or when written short hand its never ZG its always CN like the adoption of CN for the ccTLD. Its similar in Japan hardly ever Nippon NP, mostly Japan JP.

 

[betthelot]

Why a LLLL with vowels and meaning is considered less valuable than a LLLL chip with no meaning?
Only some percent from the LLLL chips will turn to mean something.

I don't see LLLL chips losing their value as they carry potential sense, but isn't logical for the ones with verified meaning to worth more even if they contain vowels?

Depends on the meaning. Here I have been talking about acronyms, chips in LLL.com and LLLL.com
You are right there will be some pinyin words in 3L and 4L that have a great meaning and a much greater value but I think those have been snapped up a long time ago by the Chinese.
We were at a disadvantage, in that we would have valued them as CHIPS or brandables not knowing the true value, so any offer over market price was much more likely to be snapped up, so the pool available on the Western wholesale market, is either nearly completely gone or gone. Demand for pinyin words existed way before CHIPS and very few exists with good meaning, maybe a 100 - 200 in the 450,000 available in 4L.com. Unlikely any will be accidentally uncovered now.

 

[artstar]

A bit more data on numerics.

168= prosperous or pathway to prosperity
1314= forever or always
510= I want you
666=easy, smooth life, obviously very lucky triple
3399= together for long time
58= I am prosperous, very wealthy
72 & 78= certainly easy, prosperous for sure
84= forever prosperous

 

[artstar]

A bit more data on numerics.

168= prosperous or pathway to prosperity
1314= forever or always
510= I want you
666=easy, smooth life, obviously very lucky triple
3399= together for long time
58= I am prosperous, very wealthy
72 & 78= certainly easy, prosperous for sure
84= forever prosperous

 

[Haris]

Every domainer selling Chinese domains must do research of what the domain might mean. If you won't research, you may sell a domain for less than the actual worth of the domain.

Add the meanings known through translating different combinations of the domain in English and also add Chinese letters in the domain description. The re-seller won't realize the actual worth of the domain unless you will explain the meaning of the domain.

I acquired a 5L.net CHIP for reg-fee at NP auction and after research I realized that the domain has awesome meanings, I then contacted the owner (happened to be Chinese) of the same domain in .com extension and he was asking for $5000+ (30000 RMB).

 

[Landov]

A thread about the meaning of letters and numbers in Chinese here.

 

[Landov]

Lian.com sold for over $200k on Dropcatch.

Lian can mean 连 (Link), 联 (Contact), 廉 (Honest), or 恋 (Love). Thanks @Kassey Lee

 

[Landov]

For example:

shai.pw (Shanghai love) sold at $40:
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Shanghai - 24 mil population, largest China city

They aren't many of these sold on Benmi as Chinese sit on them.

Find the gems among your chips and you'll make huge money.

 

[mad409]

This is a very interesting and informative thread but then you see a domain like EQV.com sell for $47.5K, with a vowel and a V and makes you scratch your head.

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[betthelot]

This is a very interesting and informative thread but then you see a domain like EQV.com sell for $47.5K, with a vowel and a V and makes you scratch your head.

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Need to be careful here - there can be some shenanigans going on with GoDaddy auctions, all legit but it designed to pump and dump. EVQ.com was owned by a brokerage firm and they still have the ability to renew the name and stop any transfer.
How this pump and dump works is taking advantage of the GoDaddy's expired auction.
The brokerage firm could have easily let the name expire and it automatically goes to GoDaddy's expired auction. The original owner then pumps up the auction price. Once the auction has closed. The original owner has 7 days to renew the name and this cancels the auction. It happened with TVQ.com.
Not saying this has happened but I'm waiting to see the changes to the name servers in the next 7 days as its still possible for the auction to be cancelled.

Also any CHIP 3L.com minimum is now over $60k but I fully agree its way over what you would expect. Low $20K would be normal.

 

[Landov]

Google translate can be used to find end user suitable meanings for almost all chips.

 

[betthelot]

Interesting stat from Tom Jennings, Snap Names Director of Business Development.
That the number of registered domains owned in China is equivalent to 1 in 50 of the population. Compared to Europe and US its nearer to 1 in 6. Plenty of room for growth.

 

[hugegrowth]

That is an interesting stat.

 

[betthelot]

And now no LLLL.xyz left. All registered
These are strange times. Driven I suspect by the low prices but this is still half a million names in an extension that 99.9% of the population has not heard of. Feels unsustainable. I dont have the heart to invest in the nGTLDs much more comfortable with .coms

 

[betthelot]

All CCC.xyz have gone today

 

[hugegrowth]

CCC is about 36,000 domains.