domain NetherlandsForum.com

[ch_dom]

What do you think of this domain ?

 

[Web Trader]

Great domain. Probably why no one has said anything.

 

[ch_dom]

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[ch_dom]

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[Web Trader]

Still no one? You know what I mean by that, right? I definitely meant that.

 

[ch_dom]

any reason as to why

 

[Web Trader]

any reason as to why

I left appraisal threads years ago, for good reason. I'm only here now because I felt like it.

Appraisal threads are a dangerous place. Lots of bad things can occur. People may lie for various reasons, for instance. They are not a good place for one to be, but rather one should learn what is valuable and what is not elsewhere.

As I scanned the first few pages here, virtually all the domains I saw earlier were rubbish. Sad, but true. People hoping for a score.

Only a few stood out as good, the few I commented on, yours being one of them. The other domains you are showing, such as in your signature, are horrible (sorry).

When people see that someone has a really nice one but doesn't even know it, they may be inclined to not say anything. You obviously seem like someone who is not sure of what he has or doesn't know. If they don't say anything then maybe later they can get it from you too cheaply, for instance. But if people come in agreeing that it's worth good money that let's "the cat out of the bag."

You have the name of a well known country + "forum." It's worth at least $x,xxx to $xx,xxx. If nobody says anything and you look like someone who doesn't even realize how valuable a domain like that is, then maybe later they can convince you to sell it to them for low $xxx. It's a good domain. There are better, and countries which would cost more as "country" + "forum," but that one is still good and definitely more valuable than almost all or perhaps all of what I saw when I reviewed the first few pages hours ago.

Make sense? The appraisal section of a domain forum can be a "shark tank" with sharks waiting to feed. I would say definitely even in a "quick flip" bargain do not sell unless for a minimum of several thousand dollars, but with a good sale it should be worth up to $x,xxx to $xx,xxxx as I mentioned above. Unless they don't like using English in the Netherlands, in which case I would need to revise that opinion. They seem to like English just fine, however. And the related islands enhance the value.

 

[Pierre Barnard]

@Web Trader Interesting comments, and what you are saying makes sense.

From my side, I have always thought people here are genuinely trying to help each other wrt Appraisals. Maybe I am just naive. I could see how what you are saying may also be true for certain individuals.

IMHO I REALLY dont think this domain in question is that great and I would really, honestly be surprised if it could be sold for anywhere near $x,xxx.

But yeah, we all have our own points of reference, experience and opinions.

 

[Web Trader]

Well Pierre, as I mentioned I haven't really been around for years until recently really, so perhaps things have improved a bit. Years ago I would have expected people to already have been posting trying to make the domain out to not be worth much already, so perhaps things have improved to a degree.

Now as for the domain, when you consider the international appeal of Amsterdam, and the islands associated with the Netherlands, I would say that definitely spikes the value of a domain like that.

 

[Sbarbe]

wrong post, apologies

 

[Ategy]

Interesting discussion (the off-topic parts .. lol) .. but back to the topic at hand ..

Definitely not a bad domain .. especially at first look .. but I'd think what makes this take a drop in valuation is that I think people in the Netherlands would use Dutch as opposed to English.

That being said .. I do know there are a lot of people who do speak English there as a 2nd/3rd language .. and there is likely interest outside of The Netherlands for information for travel/touristic reasons.


Good luck with it!

 

[Web Trader]

No I don't think so. I already did this search and others should too:

https://www.google.com/search?q=site:.nl

Look at all the English being used there.

No, a domain and site like NetherlandsForum.com would be an international forum site, and that would be part of its value and appeal. As such it would have to use the "international language," which is English, and which people actually in the Netherlands would clearly be quite comfortable with.

 

[Ategy]

I understand what you're saying .. but that would make it more of a niche site .. yes it would be a great sizeable niche ... but nothing compared to the main official language equivalent which is what the main general population would tend to look for. That being said .. for the reasons you've mentioned it still has value .. but I think $xx,xxx would be really hard .. although I'm pretty new to this, so I definitely could be wrong .. and as with all domains .. he could always get lucky with the right end-user. I actually like forums (I used to have a huge 30k member forum ages ago) .. but it takes a lot of time and energy to grow them to critical mass. If I owned this forum I'd likely make and grow it myself, and then resell it for way more than the domain value .. but that choice definitely is not for everyone ...

 

[Web Trader]

I understand what you're saying .. but that would make it more of a niche site .. yes it would be a great sizeable niche ... [...] I actually like forums (I used to have a huge 30k member forum ages ago) .. but it takes a lot of time and energy to grow them to critical mass. If I owned this forum I'd likely make and grow it myself, and then resell it for way more than the domain value .. but that choice definitely is not for everyone ...

I'm saying $xx,xxx is a best case scenario, but it might not be a good idea at all to be holding out for that. I believe that it really is worth five figures, but it may be wise to let it go for much less now unless one wants to be holding it for potentially a long time, and maybe nobody ever wants it for five. Look at Netherlands.com itself - just sitting parked.

I would not agree about "niche" there with English. The Dutch know they are part of (the part of) the international community for which English is the common language. It would be normal for them. But I won't presume to speak for the Dutch now.

So why don't you have your forum anymore, and what did you do with it? Wasn't it monetizing well enough with 30k membership? Which domain was it on if you don't mind my asking, and also just wondering why your "Ategy" domain does not resolve.

 

[Ategy]

Ah .. maybe I wasn't clear what I meant by niche. What I meant is that Dutch would naturally go to the Dutch language equivalent domain for pretty much all discussions with fellow countrymen. The niche aspect of the English domain is that it would really only be for a subset of users and topics related to people and interests extending outside of The Netherlands. Which still certainly is potentially big .. but only a fraction of a forum with a localised domain name, as the local language is where everybody inside the country would go to discuss things with each other. The only reason to go to an English forum when the first language isn't English, is to cater to an international audience .. and while there certainly are 7 billion more people outside The Netherlands than natives, the interest in actually joining (and participating) in a forum like that is greatly reduced (but again .. certainly not reduced to zero .. there still is a market for it IMO .. just not as big as the local one).

 

[Ategy]

As for my stuff .. I won't really post too much here and hijack the thread .. but it was DJ and Club Music related (House and Trance) .. I still own the domain and would like to revive it one day .. whenever they invent the 28 hour day! lol

As for Ategy.com .. Click here for more info

 

[Web Trader]

Well since you put it that way, and since surprisingly no one ever posted there either, I just did. And while I may certainly be wrong for all I know, I really have a strong hunch people in the Netherlands would go for such an English language international site. Might even like it a lot.

 

[Ategy]

Again .. I agree with you that it's far from being worthless .. some people would go there .. it's just that they would much more naturally be inclined to go to the local language version since the forum name is focused on their local country ... the main question is .. why would two Dutch people speak to each other in a foreign language when they don't have to?

The only situation would be if they are looking to talk to outsiders/foreigners ... but if that were the case then it would likely be a topic focused forum (like a Formula1 forum if they wanted to discuss racing).

 

[Web Trader]

Well perhaps we'll just have to agree to disagree because I just don't agree there.

My view of people is that they would tend to love the idea of an internationally active and welcoming site about their "local country" because their local country is on the world scene and such a site only enhances the international prestige element. My understanding of the Dutch is also that they are perfectly comfortable with English.

In case you didn't see by the way, I replied to your old thread about Ategy, etc. Now I just noticed you have a .mobi in your sig there. If I were you I would definitely lose that asap.

 

[Ategy]

Yup .. again .. I agree with you it would be used .. the only difference is that I see the Dutch version being used on a much higher level. The Dutch version I see easily getting $xx,xxx .. while the "international" version would definitely be a fraction o fthat .. not a small fraction .. but I don't think it would hit 5-figures unless extremely lucky (I would be extremely happy if someone offered me $5k).


As for my signature ... lol .. I had a ton of .mobi's from ages ago ... but that was when I was planning on developing domains .. smaller info sites .. but one year turned into 2 .. into 3 .. etc .. I have a real world job, so time is limited.

Recently I came to the realisation that maybe I should give up what would be a crazy time consuming plan to develop those domains and make the jump into domaining. So I've let (or will let) expire well over 95% of my .mobi's (which I never really intended on reselling when I got them) and focused on good solid .com's as well as some fantastic .co's and .info's (although diet.info and webmaster.info I both got years ago)

That being said ... you need to re-read my signature .. lol .. it will make more sense after reading this post .. and pay attention to the spacing!