NamesCon 2020 Auction will be unsuccessful in that way

[Al Marri]

Hello everyone

in that way they will be unsuccessful

On Nov 23, 2019 i did submission 65 of my domain names to the NamesCon 2020 Auction .

This comparison between 8 domain names :

Those my 65 domain names :

1. B.Company
2. F.Company
3. H.Company
4. I.Company
5. L.Company
6. M.Company
7. O.Company
8. Q.Company
9. S.Company
10. V.Company
11. W.Company
12. Y.Company
13. Z.Company
14. DD.Company
15. FF.Company
16. HH.Company
17. II.Company
18. MM.Company
19. PP.Company
20. SS.Company
21. Ad.Company
22. TV.Company
23. EV.Company
24. Holding.Company
25. Private.Company
26. Group.Company
27. General.Company
28. Worldwide.Company
29. Conglomerate.Company
30. Car.Company
31. Motor.Company
32. Automotive.Company
33. Aircraft.Company
34. Helicopter.Company
35. Telecom.Company
36. Phone.Company
37. Watch.Company
38. Computer.Company
39. System.Company
40. Design.Company
41. Mail.Company
42. Electronic.Company
43. Currency.Company
44. Card.Company
45. Business.Company
46. Billionaire.Company
47. Commercial.Company
48. Investor.Company
49. Broker.Company
50. Construction.Company
51. Estate.Company
52. Taxi.Company
53. Marketing.Company
54. Candy.Company
55. Energy.Company
56. Petrol.Company
57. Gold.Company
58. Cigar.Company
59. Cigarette.Company
60. Cosmetic.Company
61. Courier.Company
62. Media.Company
63. Weapon.Company
64. Coffee.Company
65. Tea.Company

Those some of domain names they allow to list it !!!:

1. kinky.biz
2. election.xyz
3. surveys.xyz
4. 01591.com
5. 03856.com
6. 03857.com
7. 04706.com
8. 04826.com
9. 05781.com
10. 05857.com
11. 06164.com
12. 4962.com
13. ddd.nyc
14. realestate.nyc
15. 7864.com
16. confidential.info
17. kazakhstan.info
18. beachfront.property
19. sterlingsilverbracelets.com
20. networkingcertications.com
21. immigrationservice.com
22. whatsmyipaddress.com
23. antivirussoftware.com
24. floridagrapefruit.com
25. interiordecorators.com
26. internetcomputer.com
27. cannabistechnology.com
28. soundproduction.com
29. anniversaryrings.com
30. downtimemonitoring.com
31. brandoptimization.com
32. marijuanasupplies.com
33. internetbroadcasting.com

So i don't recommend people work with them this will be my last time .

No Justice

Done .

Al marri

 

[NickB]

You recommend people not work with them because you where rejected? Seems like sour grapes to me....

I get rejected for Sedo auctions, does not mean I will not moan about it and tell people not to try.....

 

[AboGamil]

they accept junk domains They gang my friend

 

[AboGamil]

You recommend people not work with them because you where rejected? Seems like sour grapes to me....

I get rejected for Sedo auctions, does not mean I will not moan about it and tell people not to try.....

what you talk about they rejected car.company the name speaks about himself lets be fair

 

[Al Marri]

You recommend people not work with them because you where rejected? Seems like sour grapes to me....

I get rejected for Sedo auctions, does not mean I will not moan about it and tell people not to try.....

Open your eyes well [ No Justice ]

 

[Lord Antares]

Because they only accept good names.

 

[Al Marri]

Because they only accept good names.

Yes you mean that names "03857.com"

 

[NickB]

Twins?....they said no, get over it and move on....

 

[wallet2it]

Hello everyone

in that way they will be unsuccessful

On Nov 23, 2019 i did submission 65 of my domain names to the NamesCon 2020 Auction .

This comparison between 8 domain names :
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Those my 65 domain names :

1. B.Company
2. F.Company
3. H.Company
4. I.Company
5. L.Company
6. M.Company
7. O.Company
8. Q.Company
9. S.Company
10. V.Company
11. W.Company
12. Y.Company
13. Z.Company
14. DD.Company
15. FF.Company
16. HH.Company
17. II.Company
18. MM.Company
19. PP.Company
20. SS.Company
21. Ad.Company
22. TV.Company
23. EV.Company
24. Holding.Company
25. Private.Company
26. Group.Company
27. General.Company
28. Worldwide.Company
29. Conglomerate.Company
30. Car.Company
31. Motor.Company
32. Automotive.Company
33. Aircraft.Company
34. Helicopter.Company
35. Telecom.Company
36. Phone.Company
37. Watch.Company
38. Computer.Company
39. System.Company
40. Design.Company
41. Mail.Company
42. Electronic.Company
43. Currency.Company
44. Card.Company
45. Business.Company
46. Billionaire.Company
47. Commercial.Company
48. Investor.Company
49. Broker.Company
50. Construction.Company
51. Estate.Company
52. Taxi.Company
53. Marketing.Company
54. Candy.Company
55. Energy.Company
56. Petrol.Company
57. Gold.Company
58. Cigar.Company
59. Cigarette.Company
60. Cosmetic.Company
61. Courier.Company
62. Media.Company
63. Weapon.Company
64. Coffee.Company
65. Tea.Company

Those some of domain names they allow to list it !!!:

1. kinky.biz
2. election.xyz
3. surveys.xyz
4. 01591.com
5. 03856.com
6. 03857.com
7. 04706.com
8. 04826.com
9. 05781.com
10. 05857.com
11. 06164.com
12. 4962.com
13. ddd.nyc
14. realestate.nyc
15. 7864.com
16. confidential.info
17. kazakhstan.info
18. beachfront.property
19. sterlingsilverbracelets.com
20. networkingcertications.com
21. immigrationservice.com
22. whatsmyipaddress.com
23. antivirussoftware.com
24. floridagrapefruit.com
25. interiordecorators.com
26. internetcomputer.com
27. cannabistechnology.com
28. soundproduction.com
29. anniversaryrings.com
30. downtimemonitoring.com
31. brandoptimization.com
32. marijuanasupplies.com
33. internetbroadcasting.com

So i don't recommend people work with them this will be my last time .

No Justice

Done .

Al marri

Some of those domains they allow to list are very valuable for example: 4962.com and 7864.com

 

[Al Marri]

Twins?....they said no, get over it and move on....

One face good to make everything clear for all people

 

[Lord Antares]

Yes you mean that names "03857.com"

Some of those domains aren't valuable, but a lot of them are. None of yours are valuable. Stop being ''that guy''.

 

[Al Marri]

Some of those domains aren't valuable, but a lot of them are. None of yours are valuable. Stop being ''that guy''.

In 2019 i submissioned 90 of my domain names & in 2020 65 of my domain names so they don't allow even one name to list in auction.

Are they sure if they are a humans!

 

[wallet2it]

In 2019 i submissioned 90 of my domain names & in 2020 65 of my domain names so they don't allow even one name to list in auction.

Are they sure if they are a humans!

Hello friend,

don’t be frustrated...domain values are in the eyes of the beholder ..however, we live in a world of free market (at least for most countries) so values are governed by the supply and demand....maybe try different extensions to diversify in the future

 

[Lord Antares]

In 2019 i submissioned 90 of my domain names & in 2020 65 of my domain names so they don't allow even one name to list in auction.

Are they sure if they are a humans!

The highest ever .company sale (as per namebio) was $4k. I remember when you were complaining last year how they would let you auction your .company names only if you removed the reserve and you declined and instead wanted some crazy unrealistic reserve.

When people see you trying to auction a .company with a starting price of millions, one can't help but laugh. All the while, the highest recorded .company sold for $4k. People didn't conspire against you, you're just out of touch.

 

[JudgeMind]

I have to agree with their choices. Also, if you requested a reserve it is likely the names were not accepted for that reason. .company is not a popular extension. The examples they did choose are far more popular extensions. .com of course is the most popular!

 

[Al Marri]

Hello friend,

don’t be frustrated...domain values are in the eyes of the beholder ..however, we live in a world of free market (at least for most countries) so values are govern the supply and demand....maybe try different extensions to diversify in the future

So they have to be clear they have to add Note" This auction for .com & our friends ONLY ".
NamesCon LOCAL ONLY 2020

 

[Al Marri]

I have to agree with their choices. Also, if you requested a reserve it is likely the names were not accepted for that reason. .company is not a popular extension. The examples they did choose are far more popular extensions. .com of course is the most popular!

 

[YairDD]

The company extension isnt popular enough. I'm actually shocked you put 4N .com names as an example for bad names when those probably worth more than your whole company domains list.

I don't want to be rude but you're very aggressive for no reason

 

[NickB]

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Is that based on sales volume? Don't think it is....

 

[YairDD]

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[wallet2it]

So they have to be clear they have to add Note" This auction for .com & our friends ONLY ".
NamesCon LOCAL ONLY 2020

they do have other extensions listed not just .com.....they can not put that “friends only and local only”; it would be discrimination if they put that.....but after all, there were probably many domains submitted to them and they have limited spaces to accept some...as other people mentioned, .com is the most popular ....I personally like .org more haha but I still way more .com than .org

 

[Jothan Frakes]

[Disclaimer: I am completely expressing personally on this. I am not part of the production of this event, nor am I involved with RotD or GoDaddy. This is Jothan the person speaking and not in any way an opinion of the Domain Name Association.]

I am not involved in the inventory selection process on this (or past) NamesCon auction, and I did see some large contrast between what @Almarri.Company submitted and the names which are in the auction, so I see the point being made.

That is an effing rockstar list of .company domains, btw, for those who are COM-agnostic.

The auction selection process is one of accepting or rejecting names that can sometimes leave people having some feels - either elation and delight at the possibility of a sale after acceptance, or the deflation and often anger of rejection.

I have a lot of empathy, and understand the energy behind the message that kicked off this thread, though I disagree with the premise that it will be an unsuccessful auction after looking at the premium roster and advanced bidding activity info that is publicly available.

The live auction will take place in Austin, as opposed to Las Vegas. Austin is a tech mecca that is home to lots of startups and massive tech operations, so... different audience. The fact that GoDaddy as a different provider is behind this one may stir a larger pool of interest and bidding activity due to scale.

But back to the message... I definitely see the basic point being made that some of the names that made the auction cut, when contrasted against some of the submitted names, cause some pause.

I have some background in past selection processes at live auctions, and have seen a number of rationale often used. After having been involved in the selection criteria for a number of live auction events, there are some common factors.

For auctions I have not been involved in the facilitation of, where I felt it appropriate to submit names, I have had MY names not accepted or refused on a variety of grounds and have experienced butt-hurt over rejection situations, so I have built a roster of pragmatic rationale to help be more emotionally detatched from these outcomes.

I'll share in the hope this helps others be pragmatic and not take anything personally when experiencing a rejection scenario.

How does a name that was not as good as mine make the list when there is a stark contrast?

• The "Chad Lowe" / "Dave Franco" factor - How did these guys get acting parts? Famous sibling. What frequently happens is a seller with a super premium name puts in that domain under the condition that some others from the same seller are included.
• "Seeds and Stems" - There is a desire to have no-reserve names included - which often attracts some names that were submitted with no reserve where they might contain a buzzword from a recent trend or them of the auction.

Sometimes names don't get accepted for a non-obvious reason.

• last-minute submissions are a hassle - there is a giant nexus between our industry and procrastination or low awareness of the auctions in time to participate in them. The closer one gets to the auction dates the harder it gets to add names and there is also a desire to not introduce human error from late additions
• opening bid or valuation expectations above anticipated bidding or estimate of valuation of auction house - if it won't attract bidding, especially competitive bidding, it will waste some of the limited time of the event

There's another factor names may not make it in, and it might be kept opaque out of sensitivity or not be communicated

• ownership validation too difficult
• platform not supporting TLD
• seller being a dick or very high maintenance or caught in a lie
• ambiguous as to clear title on submission
• domain having some abuse use history (spam/malware)
• clear or perceived potential / likely TM issue

Again, this is totally general and not directed at anyone, but rather it is shared as a means to aid in their domaining journey. I hope that it is not taken personally by anyone, and it taken in the spirit of sharing as a resource that improves people's experience with listing names.

-J.

 

[hawkeye]

In 2019 i submissioned 90 of my domain names & in 2020 65 of my domain names so they don't allow even one name to list in auction.

Are they sure if they are a humans!

As they would get 25% of the selling price, and you always are asking for 'millions' for your domains, I'm sure if they thought there was the 'slightest' chance they would sell, they would include them. Might be time to come down to earth and reevaluate what you 'think' they're worth, and set realistic prices to what they're 'actually worth' you may have a better chance to sell them.

 

[wwwweb]

Stop drinking your own kool aid, there is nothing valuable about .company, that anyone would pay a premium for it. If people are going to go the route of .company, they have endless choice of other gtld's.

You continue to ask millions for these meaningless .company, MyCar.com has so much more value than car.company, who is going to purchase car.company, Ford, GM? It means nothing

They made the right call, as some of these have premiums, and the crowd would be bored with such names.

 

[tonyk2000]

I guess they determined that highly priced nGTLDs would never be sold to the specific audience (professionals) participating...