news NamePros.com enters top 10,000 Alexa ranking!

[Chris Hydrick]

Current rank: 9,971

Congratulations to all nP staff, ownership, members, and even lurkers!

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/namepros.com

 

[Chris Hydrick]

I gotta say, while imperfect, it does appear @Rob Monster is trying to keep things on topic. I hadn't a clue as to how Robs advertising-like post above was on topic, until the end.

Collectively, the industry must continue to work on innovations that elevate domains into a respected asset class. If that happens, then NamePros ranks up there in the Alexa top 1000. An example for a comp is Coinmarketcap.com for cryptos. No reason why domains should not be as popular as cryptos. None.

 

[CobraKai]

Congrats Namepros! Ranking higher than Bitcointalk. Let's make domaining as popular as cryptocurrencies!

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

Congratulations nP* - and be sure, you* are always welcome to enter the top

*founder(s), owner(s), employee(s) and of course all members & readers

 

[Recons.Com]

I agree to this point.

But a year or two ago, there wasn't as much content. As year over year, the forum grows in terms of content, and member count; albeit active membership volume may vary.

As search engines continue to crawl the forum, nP content is becoming more reachable than ever. If not by members alone, through lurkers coming and going by way of search engine search results.

Though sometimes trivial, I think each and every members content can be considered useful. I think that is why mods have tried to work with members opposed to drawing quicker hard line bans.

I'd be curious to hear @Paul's take on this. I assume he has a much better viewpoint as to what's going on under the hood.

Added: I can't even begin to imagine the amount of URLs folks like @ategy.com has provided.

Since 2018 alone, @Ategy's namesult closeout thread has had over 78,000 views, and countless domains for google and other search engines to crawl.

Basically, if there was more traffic, that should translate into more registrations, more active users. If true traffic data were available for all sites in the world, it would take almost doubling your traffic to go from 12K+ to 9K+.

For all we know, NP GA stats might show the same/lower/similar/small increase numbers, but Alexa is operating on inferring the traffic from the limited and skewed data it has and so it might decide your traffic is up/down by factor of 2.

Just for example, https://rightbrand.com was Alexa 377k on June 12 and just 2 months later it is 423K. During that period, the site's traffic is actually UP from 7.5K+ uniques to 8.6K unique visitors per week. So about 15% increase in traffic resulted in about 15% decline in rankings

 

[Recons.Com]

Thanks.

It can be quite useful. I just used it here:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1294147160800464896

Driving awareness of the domain name asset class will drive NamePros. The correlation is obvious.

For the last couple of years, the growth has been mainly emerging markets.

In the coming months, I see a flood of alternative investors in developed markets coming in.

Serious capital has yet to participate in this asset class even though the Internet economy is fast becoming the economy.

While I like the poster and domains are great, they are not for a regular investor to hold their money.

For one, differing from bitcoin, where every bitcoin is the same, and from gold, where no ounce is special, each domain is unique and some are worth 7 figures, while others are similar to trash - not only worthless, you have to pay for a dumpster rent.

For two, costs of holding btc or gold are nominal if any, while cost of holding .com is $8.5/year at least which can mean that if you domains are not high quality and you are not listing them for sale, you'll be hemorrhaging money like crazy every year.

 

[Recons.Com]

The activity percentages are more meaningful and accurate than the traffic. Actions on NamePros are essentially all performed by real people (99.99%?) thanks to years of tech development, whereas visits include all sorts of robots (e.g., crawlers). As we mentioned, moderators don't have access to Google Analytics, but the data is not comparable in the way you want, anyway.

Here's a simplified way to think about it: do you want the domain name with 1000 visits and 0 clicks, or the domain with 10 visits and 5 clicks, if you're purely interested in domain monetization? The latter.

Alexa.com is not necessarily less accurate either, for the reasons we mentioned and because Alexa tries to approximate the true value, whereas Google Analytics only reports what it sees and does not try to account for the significant amount of traffic that it doesn't see (e.g., due to being blocked by a browser/extension, which again, is not consistent over time and therefore cannot simply be ignored or factored out of the equation).

We hope that helps.

If you have to choose just one data parameter to compare sites, that would be number of unique visitors. That is the hardest parameter to grow too.

I am surprised you are making secret out of it. I assume your advertisers expect you to share this number, not how many likes were given, how many posts and pms were posted...

 

[NamePrime]

Congrats Namepros!

 

[Bob Hawkes]

That is really interesting, @Grilled. Not surprised that USA is about 29% but somewhat surprised how high India is (but maybe higher percentage Chrome with Alexa browser extension there?). No doubt India is more and more important in domain business as @Michael noted in a recent interview with @equity78 . So Canada is way less, but does its inclusion mean it is the third highest contributor to the stats, and all other countries are less than 3.7% of total? Would seem surprising if so, perhaps. Like UK, China, Germany etc. less. Go Canada .
Bob

 

[Bertrell]

A benefit of a large forum (from a practical point of view) is that if one has a problem (bad customer service received from this or that supplier, or more deep problems), should it posted here, this will definitely help to resolve an issue. Posting the same on a personal blog may not be noticed by anybody. So is general fraud detection like known cases of shill bidding - came to light only because of this forum.

Agreed.

 

[Domineer]

Congratulations @NamePros
Miles to go.

Best Wishes

 

[Chris Hydrick]

Hey @NamePros --- How low can you go?

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/namepros.com

 

[Chris Hydrick]

 

[tonyk2000]

From July 2019 to July 2020

Those are interesting figures. What about similar numbers without "for sale" threads? I'm sorry, but most of such threads are useless, and the "Show Domain Discussion" link is the life saver... its existence may be the only reason why we still have professional discussions.

Also, how about extra data - anonymized: how many members voluntary closed their accounts? There are too many imo. How many "igonres" do exist in the db - number of members "igonored" by at least one another member, top10 ignored members (by numbers, without usernames), how many members are restricted in one way or another due to spamming etc.?

The last but not the least, how many individuals are maintaining Mod Team Something accounts? One would guess that growing forum, which this thread implies, would also mean some extra mod forces dedicated?

 

[Recons.Com]

Currently, our forum software doesn't track these totals, and moderators don't have access to internal tracking tools (e.g., Google Analytics).

It's worth noting that traffic of a large website with several layers of infrastructure like NamePros cannot easily be compared from one time period to another. That's not to say it can't be done, but it's not a priority for us.

For example, the following can prevent traffic from reaching the analytical services that we use:

1. Some browsers (e.g., their privacy features) and browser extensions (e.g., ad blockers) block website tracking, including analytical software such as Google Analytics.
2. Firewalls and our internal tools that block certain traffic (e.g., for security purposes).
3. Caching by Cloudflare, browsers, etc.

If we remember correctly, our tech team reported that over 30% of our traffic does not reach the third-party analytical services that we use, and that is expected to continue to rise as more browsers compete to offer privacy features.

It'd still be straightforward to calculate a relative change in traffic if these factors were all consistent over time, but they're constantly changing.


Excellent questions. We, as moderators, would also be interested to know, but it'd require the tech team (e.g., a database engineer) to determine, and they're quite busy.


This number is very, very small.

There have probably only been 2-3 accounts in the past six months that haven't been discussed by the community, and those are due to things like retiring, cleaning up one's online presence, etc. The rest are almost always noticed/discussed, but even those are a very small percentage of the active community.

From our observations, the community is more positive and professional as a result of some of them leaving, and we try to encourage the rest to return by making improvements.

We hope that helps.

Come on! Can't be that hard, can it?

Just apples to apples if GA says your traffic is up or down and by what %

No need to overcomplicate it by going into what percentage reach or doesn't. It is certainly more accurate and benchmarkable compared to anything else, especially to Alexa or how many reactions there were.

 

[Princy]

Oh Really Great....Go For TOP 5,000 ALEXARANK Soon

 

[Steven McEvoy]

Oh Really Great....Go For TOP 5,000 ALEXARANK Soon

Don’t worry, Rob is on it!

 

[Steven McEvoy]

Out of curiosity, we looked at the numbers reported by our forum software.

From July 2019 to July 2020:

• 10.0% increase in active members, which is limited by market size.
• 13.0% increase in new posts, which include new threads.
• 15.0% increase in new reactions.
• 18.0% increase in new direct messages.
• 26.0% increase in new attachments.
• 36.0% increase in new status updates.

These are increases in producing content; the vast majority of visitors to user-generated websites solely consume content and do not produce it.

As for why it feels the way it does, @Grilled may be right:

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Generally, we try not to look at the numbers too often because we're focused on improving and providing value; we believe the rest will follow. With that in mind, the tech team is working hard on a lot of new advancements and features that we hope will make NamePros even more useful and rewarding.

We look forward to sharing them with you all soon.

yup that’s about the time when Epik got pretty popular.

And Robs twitter problem lol

 

[frank-germany]

Because your 8,000+ posts helped achieve that.

So did r.m's. and r.j's, heck, there might even be a rob(a-z) helping to contribute here.

The point being, namePros wouldn't be the same without you @frank-germany ...

Like it or not, you have become a lot of folks go-to german guy around here.



I've bought into some of what you've post. Albeit never a .de domain, but I do appreciate your opinions and viewpoints.

Do online friends/acquaintances count as a benefit? or being apart of a niche community?

thanks @Grilled

agreed

but all this is happening w/o a lot of additional traffic from search engines

 

[J. Sharma]

Congress to NamePros Family.

We always have a 100% positive response of every post. Great Team.

Thanks

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

According to Alexa, for Rightbrand the main traffic source is India too with 41%.

Reality? India is number 3 at just 5%, with US being #1 with 35% and Canada #2 with 9%.

So it overestimated India traffic by 8 (!) times, again because of overrepresentation of Alexa toolbars in that geography.

Alexa is least accurate for websites with low traffic because it lacks sufficient data to estimate their traffic.

 

[Recons.Com]

Alexa is least accurate for websites with low traffic because it lacks sufficient data to estimate their traffic.

Not sure what you are implying here.

I wouldn't call 100k+ over 3 months "low traffic".

I have a site that gets millions of visitors a year and Alexa is as wrong in that range.

If you had access to np ga stats, and something tells me you don't, you would see that Alexa is grossly inaccurate there too. I am positive Indian traffic is closer to 10%, not 40%.

 

[Chris Hydrick]

https://blog.alexa.com/top-6-myths-about-the-alexa-traffic-rank/

Myth #5: If my site’s traffic goes up on a particular day, my rank will automatically get better.

Not necessarily. The global Alexa Rank is updated daily, but it is based on visitors to your website over the trailing 3 months. So, a day’s worth of traffic is about 1/90th of all the traffic used to rank your site. Also, a site’s rank is relative to other sites. So, changes in traffic to other sites affects your site’s rank as well.

 

[Recons.Com]

https://blog.alexa.com/top-6-myths-about-the-alexa-traffic-rank/

Daily changes were not discussed.

I referenced changes over months.

The whole Alexa being able to infer geographical data for a site based on people installing its toolbar is a myth.

Alexa is a very very rough approximation of overall traffic ranges.

 

[Technical Support]

That means namepros have a great flow of visitors, People try to sell domains in this rush and I appreciate the efforts of namepros

 

[Chris Hydrick]

nP has been flirting with top top topping the Alexa 9,000 mark over the past few days...

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/namepros.com