domain mortgagerates

[dugu]

.pro
Please apparaise.

 

[cplmjk]

Possible mid $XX. Low to mid $XXX developed, IMO.

 

[dugu]

is it the registrar? I thought at least low $XXXX, cause the adsense is skyrocketing with the keywords

 

[MicroGuy]

Reg fee to low $xx undeveloped. IMO.

 

[jdenwar]

.pro
Please apparaise.

Related Sales
home mortage.pro $170 (Sedo)

low-high $xx undeveloped :imho:



Good Luck!

 

[InvisionTech]

Related Sales
home mortage.pro $170 (Sedo)

low-high $xx undeveloped :imho:



Good Luck!

Isn't that a misspelling?

Here are some related sales, source is namebio.com:



mortgageratewatch.com - $392 - 2008-08-26namejet.com
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cheapmortgagerate.com - $209 - 2008-05-31namejet.com
bestmortgagerate.us - $1,600 - 2008-02-17sedo.com
mortgagerates.org - $17,000 - 2008-01-03moniker.com
homemortgagerates.com - $26,000 - 2007-11-21moniker.com
mortgageratequote.us - $16 - 2007-04-24Afternic Bazaar
mortgagerates.net - $36,495 - 2007-03-27SnapNames
mortgageratesnetwork.com - $100 - 2007-03-13AfterNic
fixedmortgagerates.net - $1,100 - 2006-06-22TDNAM
adjustablemortgagerates.net - $705 - 2006-06-22TDNAM

 

[cplmjk]

is it the registrar? I thought at least low $XXXX, cause the adsense is skyrocketing with the keywords

.pro isnt a heavy hitter like the big 3... good high PPC keywords but the .pro is the killer, IMO. If you want max profit from this domain, DEVELOP!

 

[jdenwar]

Isn't that a misspelling?

HomeMortgage.pro $170 [Sedo]

Source: http://www.dnsaleprice.com/

Thanks

 

[dugu]

ok, I'll develop, as the keywords are too good

 

[akcampbell]

.pro isnt a heavy hitter like the big 3... good high PPC keywords but the .pro is the killer, IMO.

There are 15,000 US trademarks with "Pro" in. Restrictions are the killer, only being sold by 3-4 registrars out of 1000's is the killer, high reg fees are the killer, giving .com a 19 year registration advantage during the inception of the Internet is a killer, the .pro bit is the saving grace, it sounds brilliant.

Who decided to call this site NamePros and not Namecom, Namenet, or Nameorg? A domainer!!! Name.pro would be a much better site name. There are 1.8m Google indexed pages ending pro.com. Why did the developer put the word pro after the keyword? For branding purposes.

One day certain keywords in .pro will be more valuable than .com. com is sterile and unflattering for keywords. .pro can take any keyword and make it sound great. Let me give you some examples of domains that sound better and make more sense with .pro than .com

Golf.pro
Poker.pro
Football.pro
Mobile.pro
Office.pro
Training.pro
Total.pro
Tutor.pro
Democracy.pro
Guitar.pro
Scuba.pro
Chef.pro
Salary.pro
Expo.pro
Jobs.pro

.pro rips .com to pieces on "knack to it" keywords, sports, hobbies, professions, and work related keywords.

Getting back to domains, Rates.pro sold for $1,800, I bought it. I also paid $10,000 for Rates.info. It's a great keyword because if you sell somebody a mortgage you might be getting their business for 25 years.

There is nothing more annoying than somebody asking for an appraisal for any one of the 300+ alternative extensions out there and somebody replying "the .XXX kills it". No &hit Sherlock?! The post is asking for a valuation as .XXX. Obviously, .com is more valuable, that also makes it out of reach for 99.9% of domain registrants if you want blockbuster single generic keywords.

I paid $800 for Diamond.pro, somebody else paid $7.5m for Diamond.com. I think .pro makes the keyword Diamond sound even more exclusive and at 1/10,000 of the price of the .com, that's quite a saving. From my angle, giving up the type-in traffic is worth saving $7,499,200. 5/6 of Internet traffic isn't type-in, so I'm saving alot of money and getting to compete for the other 5/6 of the market that is up for grabs through other channels. In my mind somebody who uses direct type-in to navigate to a site is probably going to spend less on average than somebody who has heard of the company's reputation or who has done a more targeted search engine lookup like "Antwerp Diamond Merchant".

The truth is BlueNile.com is the biggest online jeweller, not Diamond.com. There is no reason Diamond.pro couldn't be bigger than both of them. The .pro in the name isn't going to hold it back. Here's how these text strings compare for Google uniques;

Diamondpro - 613,000
Diamondnet - 102,000
Diamondorg - 8,800
Diamondcom - 3,100

Internet users have been brainwashed into believing .com is untouchable. It's not untouchable. In terms of semantics, association in other commercial use, credibility, and brandability it can be blown away by .pro.

The person who came up with ".com" as a domain extension wasn't a domainer or a branding expert. It would be a bit of a coincidence then if no other combination of 2 and 3 letters could beat it for brandability and natural keyword association.

People who think .pro kills a keyword are sheep who don't understand branding. Even if I had $7.5m, I wouldn't spend 10,000 times more than a .pro equivalent that has 200 times better sementic association. It makes sense to save the $7.499m and spend it on the business itself.

 

[stingrae]

Your comparison between BlueNile and Diamond.com

is "faulty" at best. The reason Blue Nile is more successful is branding, advertising, DEVELOPMENT.

If he wants to develop his .pro into a money making machine, somebody will pay big bucks for it, but as a stand alone domain, it is the resellers who determine the prices and this one won't fetch much because....

.pro kills it. Good luck finding an enduser who wants to put their business on a .pro.

Don't hate the player, hate the game. Consumers and end users expect .com. Until that changes, these garbage extensions are only worth something under the greater fool theory.

$xx undeveloped.

 

[akcampbell]

Copying from your signature;

"Resource guide for College Students - Financial Aid, Student Loans, Student Loan Consolidation, and Scholarships" linking to the domain CampusVitals.com

I own Guide.pro, Student.pro, StudentLoan.pro, Consolidation.pro, and to round it off Campus.pro. Although, we disagree on extensions, we like the same keywords.

The phrase "Campus Vitals" has 1,470 Google uniques. Campus on its own has 143,000,000 Google uniques. That's 100,000 times more Internet usage.

The choice is clear. A 2 word .com that doesn't mean anything or a 1 word .pro that does. I accept that most people will choose the 2 word .com but not everybody will.

The greater fool theory is more relevant to .com than .pro. There are 78m .coms and probably 77m are worthless concoctions like CampusVitals so that's alot of fools playing a losing game in obscurity to support the few thousand 90s single word generic registrants and adwords megaportfolio owners who make any real money out of .com domaining.

 

[MicroGuy]

One day certain keywords in .pro will be more valuable than .com.

This is a ridiculous statement and certainly not relevant to a domain appraisal in this section. If you want to start a debate about .pro vs .com you should start a thread in the appropriate forum. IMO.

 

[akcampbell]

This is a ridiculous statement and certainly not relevant to a domain appraisal in this section. If you want to start a debate about .pro vs .com you should start a thread in the appropriate forum. IMO.

Somebody stated that ".pro kills it". The subtext of that was "it's not a .com" so its only worth $XX which I didn't think was an appropriate or reasoned response to a valuation request for a .pro.

I brought alot of objective analysis into my response and quoted actual Rates keyword sales in .pro and other alternative extensions to argue that it had more value the $XX. That added more value than ".pro kills it" in my opinion and was more relevant.

 

[mjs]

Challenging akcampbell, with few exceptions, is an impractical allocation of one's time. The better choice, one that is uniquely educational, is to spend some time in the archives studying his body of work on this board. Your pick...

 

[MicroGuy]

Challenging akcampbell, with few exceptions, is an impractical allocation of one's time. The better choice, one that is uniquely educational, is to spend some time in the archives studying his body of work on this board. Your pick...

Thanks but I've seen enough of his wisdom in this thread to last a lifetime.

 

[stingrae]

Campus Vitals as a domain name is reg fee. But with the traffic and adsense it makes it is worth mid to high $xxx. I've developed it by building backlinks and putting some generic content on it since September.

Clearly, you have put your eggs into the .pro basket based on your avatar so your opinion isn't exactly unbiased. I hope you make a million.

I still stand by my appraisal based on this being a low tier domain extension with a thin market for resale.

Develop it. That is my recommendation.

 

[akcampbell]

Clearly, you have put your eggs into the .pro basket based on your avatar so your opinion isn't exactly unbiased.

Everybody's opinion is biased. It must get tricky for somebody who owns VeryLowMortgageRates.com and sees an appraisal request for MortgageRates.pro. Do you wheel out the .com is king and everything else is garbage mantra or big up the keyword Mortgage Rates. Probably best to kill two birds with one stone, rave about the keywords, note that it would work even better with Very Low in front of it, but sign off with "but the .pro kills it". Job done.

I'm a bit put out you didn't spot the eggs in my .info basket. Rates.info, Prices.info, Savings.info, and Coupons.info are all double yolkers. I did have a .info avatar but one day everybody started agreeing with me on appraisal threads and then it wasn't fun any more.

 

[ecigs.net]

Everybody's opinion is biased.

True.

I might have missed your appraisal in this thread. Since you do seem to be the main .PRO PROponent, what do you think this domain is worth undeveloped?

 

[stingrae]

What's the point?

Good luck to OP with development.