LLLL.net COUNTDOWN

[-REECE-]

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It was only a matter of time... First King Com. Then .CN fell. And now... I present to you LLLL.net

This thread is designed to elicit discussion about LLLL.nets. You're encouraged to post anything you feel is relevant to LLLL.nets in this thread. This includes sales information, new regs, ...

Feb 05, 2008: All quad premium LLLL.nets are registered

 

[.X.]

CVCV and all premiums are already gone, as are quite a few VCVC, VVCC, CCVV (etc). Why's it a joke?

Because the vast majority, Have NO value on secondary market, Just as the LLLL.coms don't. Well, They are selling from domainer to domainer.

Joke.com is premium LLLL.com

Why is it a joke?

Well, it has become a joke, as domainers sell their LLLL.coms back and forth to each other. Kind of like trading baseball cards or something.

Generic,Very nice brandable, and true acronym LLLL.com's will draw end users, But all those where accounted for, years ago, So to me, It is like buying junk. Now to see Dot Net fixing to go through the same thing, The registers love you people.

Reference : http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/428486-official-llll-biz-countdown.html
http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/428484-llll-info-countdown.html

It has become a joke ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Just my 0.02

 

[DomainMagnate]

about half of all LLLL.net's are remaining, so it's gonna take like 5 years till they are all registered. Only the premiums and vcvc.com's have reseller value currently, so don't get too excited about all the buyouts

 

[GreenGambler]

I wouldn't be surprised to see them all registered within 3 years. Things move fast on the net, everything is expanding very quickly and more rapidly each year.

The World Internet Usage as of Dec. 2007 was a reported 1,319,872,109 users online. And World internet usage grew 265.6% between 2000 and 2007.

I'm sure the World Internet Usage is growing more rapidly each year, and I would expect the growth rate between 2007 and 2014 to be even more impressive.

With numbers like these and the world population going only one way I don't see how limited DN's are a bad choice for long-term investments. Granted, all within their own time, but the time will come and sooner than most think, IMO

I havn't done the research but I would imagine the time between when LL.com's were all reg'd and LLL.coms were all reg'd is probably equal to or longer than the time between when all LLL.coms were reg'd and all LLLL.com's were reg'd, even though there are more LLLL.coms? Im not sure though. LLLL.com's were all reg'd Nov. 07, anyone know about LL.coms and LLL.coms ? or LLL.nets?

 

[filter]

Because the vast majority, Have NO value on secondary market, Just as the LLLL.coms don't. Well, They are selling from domainer to domainer.

Good points to keep in mind ...

With one "minor" adjustment about the "NO" value frame:

The value of most (?) LLLL.net is currently perceived by the broader (end user) market to be less than reg fee (or they would be registered already).

I wouldn't say it's the same as "NO" value though.

At some point, increasing demand from broader market may set value for many LLLL.net at a little bit greater than reg fee.

The difference between $5 and $10 isn't much to an end user - the price of a sandwich ....

But that's actually a decent ROI if you've decided to put $1000 into the LLLL.net market instead of the stock market this year.

And that $5 difference is just the tip of the iceberg.

But it is quite possibly still a few years before the increased demand from end-users becomes more apparent. (Though a few people have already noticed end user interest already due to increased prices of LLLL.com making lower-priced LLLL.net a more attractive option.)

Domainers are right now getting ahead of the curve, recognizing that - as with LLLL.com - the period in between "not quite worth reg fee" now and "worth some multiple of reg fee" later may be a good time to pick out a few good ones before someone else does.

Maybe some are getting a bit too far ahead of the curve though! ("I wasn't wrong .... just early!" = famous last words, typical trader's lament!)

People expecting instant, guaranteed profit from the various "buyout" phases in LLLL.net are probably in for a learning experience though!

People expecting inevitable, massive, tragic losses for those registering good LLLL.net names now are probably also in for a learning experience when the balance between supply and demand finally tips more decisively a few years down the road.

Well, one thing's for sure then - this particular (quasi-) "buyout" may be a learning experience for many people, in many different ways!

 

[tristanperry]

Because the vast majority, Have NO value on secondary market, Just as the LLLL.coms don't. Well, They are selling from domainer to domainer.

Joke.com is premium LLLL.com

Why is it a joke?

Well, it has become a joke, as domainers sell their LLLL.coms back and forth to each other. Kind of like trading baseball cards or something.

Generic,Very nice brandable, and true acronym LLLL.com's will draw end users, But all those where accounted for, years ago, So to me, It is like buying junk. Now to see Dot Net fixing to go through the same thing, The registers love you people.

Reference : http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/428486-official-llll-biz-countdown.html
http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/428484-llll-info-countdown.html

It has become a joke ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Just my 0.02

Fair enough

Although can't you say the same for LLL.coms and LLL.nets (etc)? I mean, XZQ.com should technically be a joke, right? Yet it'd be worth $6k at least? (Or am I mistaking what you mean?)

 

[mwzd]

Well considering that all the premiums are gone yesterday and already have value, I don't see why it would take 5 years to sell out all LLLL.net?

Especially if people start protecting their LLLL.com investment by taking the .net for a pair (like I recently did).

As for LLLL.com and it being artificially inflated, I think enough has been said by everyone and like Reece / Lorenzo / Rich etc, I'll let the numbers speak for themselves.

We have a really old saying in India - which translates to - "For the wise even a glance is enough".

I thought the .com buyout would take at least a year... then the vacuums started and see what happened. Well they've started on this too. Anything that is posted as available is gone in 24 hours or less...

Its a matter of opinion really, and putting your money where your mouth is, which most people seem to be doing.

 

[italiandragon]

Because the vast majority, Have NO value on secondary market, Just as the LLLL.coms don't. Well, They are selling from domainer to domainer.

Joke.com is premium LLLL.com

Why is it a joke?

Well, it has become a joke, as domainers sell their LLLL.coms back and forth to each other. Kind of like trading baseball cards or something.

Generic,Very nice brandable, and true acronym LLLL.com's will draw end users, But all those where accounted for, years ago, So to me, It is like buying junk. Now to see Dot Net fixing to go through the same thing, The registers love you people.

Reference : http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/428486-official-llll-biz-countdown.html
http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/428484-llll-info-countdown.html

It has become a joke ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Just my 0.02

John,


if a name like iReport.com can get all that money Rick squeezed off from it.......without type in traffic.....excuse me but any name shorter than that should be able to squeeze a mere $100.


And I would put my money anytime on FRTS.com or GAID.net

rather then on:

AllergyMEDS.info

BusinessClassAirFare.org

CardSTORES.info

Docked.biz or Docked.us

ExerciseCLASS.org

GIRLblog.info

MortgagePoints.biz

NewYorkCityMuseums.biz

PrePaidCellphoneCards.org

RenoApartment.net

SATtesting.us

SpagettiSauce.net

TelephotoLENS.info

VirtualOfficeSPACE.org



usaTRADEMARKS.biz

usaTRADEMARKS.info

usaTRADEMARKS.org

usaTRADEMARKS.us

OilDRILL.info




( note: all names that are advertised for sale in the link of your signature...)

 

[DomainMagnate]

Well considering that all the premiums are gone yesterday and already have value, I don't see why it would take 5 years to sell out all LLLL.net?

Here's why.

- 1.5 years ago there were 60-70K available LLLL.com's
- now there are over 200K available LLLL.net's
- .net is not .com

Might not be 5 years, but don't expect it soon.

 

[filter]

Here's why.

- 1.5 years ago there were 60-70K available LLLL.com's
- now there are over 200K available LLLL.net's
- .net is not .com

Might not be 5 years, but don't expect it soon.

"If" (when) minimum price for LLLL.com goes above $60 ... then the corresponding LLLL.net might come along for the ride at reg fee.

Would be interesting to see what the lag between LLL.com and LLL.net buyouts was ... ie, would imagine that LLL.com took some time, and then LLL.net finished at an accelerated pace in the tailwind of LLL.com ...

Though would agree - it will be a bit longer than the "oh boy gonna spend my rent money on 200 LLLL.net and flip them all for $20 each next week" contingent in this thread might expect .......

 

[RCK]

John,


if a name like iReport.com can get all that money Rick squeezed off from it.......without type in traffic.....excuse me but any name shorter than that should be able to squeeze a mere $100.


And I would put my money anytime on FRTS.com or GAID.net

rather then on:

AllergyMEDS.info

BusinessClassAirFare.org

CardSTORES.info

Docked.biz or Docked.us

ExerciseCLASS.org

GIRLblog.info

MortgagePoints.biz

NewYorkCityMuseums.biz

PrePaidCellphoneCards.org

RenoApartment.net

SATtesting.us

SpagettiSauce.net

TelephotoLENS.info

VirtualOfficeSPACE.org



usaTRADEMARKS.biz

usaTRADEMARKS.info

usaTRADEMARKS.org

usaTRADEMARKS.us

OilDRILL.info




( note: all names that are advertised for sale in the link of your signature...)

I agree on that one..

 

[GreenGambler]

Though would agree - it will be a bit longer than the "oh boy gonna spend my rent money on 200 LLLL.net and flip them all for $20 each next week" contingent in this thread might expect .......

I hope nobody is using that philosophy right now and if so, best of luck.
LOL,

These aren't black market goods, their LLLL.net's. It will take some time.

 

[mwzd]

Yeah, I don't see a buy today sell tomorrow scenario, a larger part of my purchases is for two years minimum.

About 25% I bought for a six-month flip and i can sell some today for $20 ea. (I bought oeyh.net for $20, coz I wanted to pair up my LLLL.com).

I didn't initially believe in .net being viable, but just following the money is the best way forward in this business, which domains I buy and why are entirely upto me, no amount of 'hype' can make me spend a dollar, if I don't see the ROI potential.

 

[enlytend]

if a name like iReport.com can get all that money Rick squeezed off from it.......without type in traffic.....excuse me but any name shorter than that should be able to squeeze a mere $100.

FWIW, CNN had already been using the term for a segment of viewer-contributed news stories and commentary (http://www.cnn.com/exchange/ ). They really wanted to brand on THAT name - type in traffic or length of the name was a moot point.

When it comes to judging the desirability of a name, the typical end user just doesn't use the same criteria as many domainers. And imo, that's the weak link in the LLLL market.

 

[filter]

I hope nobody is using that philosophy right now and if so, best of luck.
LOL,

already tried that maneuver last month, so I'm speaking from experience here now! :lol:

 

[-REECE-]

Domainers may eventually become endusers in their own right...

I bought a quad premium LLLL.com for $1800 USD (not CVCV/VCVC, a dictionary word, etc) because I had a particular project in mind for that particular name...

I'm sure I'm not the only domainer here who has plans to develop some of his registrations/purchases... We see the same thing with LL.coms and LLL.coms...

There are plenty of options out there for most double and triple premiums, not to mention single and anti-premiums in other countries (with different languages).

Because the vast majority, Have NO value on secondary market, Just as the LLLL.coms don't. Well, They are selling from domainer to domainer.

Joke.com is premium LLLL.com

Why is it a joke?

Well, it has become a joke, as domainers sell their LLLL.coms back and forth to each other. Kind of like trading baseball cards or something.

Generic,Very nice brandable, and true acronym LLLL.com's will draw end users, But all those where accounted for, years ago, So to me, It is like buying junk. Now to see Dot Net fixing to go through the same thing, The registers love you people.

Reference : http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/428486-official-llll-biz-countdown.html
http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/428484-llll-info-countdown.html

It has become a joke ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Just my 0.02

 

[randomo]

Gosh, I actually drop-caught a premium one this morning (FSRI) - I figured people with scripts were gobbling them all up!

 

[-REECE-]

I've been lazy and unmotivated to scan since about 3 hours after the buyout... Happy with what I have and happy to let others gobble up the rest

Gosh, I actually drop-caught a premium one this morning (FSRI) - I figured people with scripts were gobbling them all up!

 

[italiandragon]

I`m starting to understand why I posted 2 LLLL.com on TDNAM and got sold within 15 minuts and why every few minuts I get traffic from Lithuania:


http://www.uzdarbis.lt/index.php?showtopic=39515&st=40




(note: do not ask me what they are writing because I have no idea..)

 

[champ_rock]

Gosh, I actually drop-caught a premium one this morning (FSRI) - I figured people with scripts were gobbling them all up!

ya these script kiddies are fast. i built a noobish script myself which fails to register even a single domain.. always late

 

[Shenron]

Maybe someone from Russia might understand it... dunno...