domain LastMinuteLotto [.com]

[DoNameSales]

any value, Appraise please
Thank you guys

 

[PAINC]

What is a Last Minute Lotto?
Can you always get in on it at the last second? Do the lotto never end?

I don't get it...

 

[DNWon]

The word Lotto is a trademark. It's trademarked over 100 times by many different companies in many different classes and services, so I hope you have one of those trademarks otherwise your domain name is worthless, and subject to a UDRP!

 

[PAINC]

If it's trademarked over 100 times I guess it could be TM one more time?
But the fact is that Last minute lotto doesn't make sense to me..

Can you always buy in on the lotto at the last minute?
How will it ever end if someone always can come in the the last minute?
Never played lotto so maybe OP can describe it to me..

 

[DNWon]

The trademark Lotto has been involved in over 24 UDRP filings!
LastMinuteLottery.com is available for registration and as lottery is not a trademark would be a much better choice for OP, if so inclined! Good Luck to you!

 

[todaygold]

The trademark Lotto has been involved in over 24 UDRP filings!
LastMinuteLottery.com is available for registration and as lottery is not a trademark would be a much better choice for OP, if so inclined! Good Luck to you!

Do you know what you are talking about? In what country is the word 'lotto' a trademark? Maybe using a combination of words or specific style...but not just on its own. And did you actually look at the 24 UDRP filings you refer to? Because if you did, you would see that every one was filled because of something else (such as AOLlotto...filled by AOL, etc.)...not because of the word lotto alone.

 

[gilescoley]

Word Mark LOTTO
Goods and Services IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Operating of lotteries. FIRST USE: 20130311. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20130311
Mark Drawing Code (5) WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS IN STYLIZED FORM
Serial Number 85850752
Filing Date February 15, 2013
Current Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1B
Date Amended to Current Register July 24, 2013
Registration Number 4420111
Registration Date October 15, 2013
Owner (REGISTRANT) Connecticut Lottery Corporation body politic and corporate constituting a public instrumentality and political subdivision of the state of connecticut CONNECTICUT 777 Brook Street Rocky Hill CONNECTICUT 06067
Attorney of Record Catherine Intravia
Disclaimer NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "LOTTO" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN
Description of Mark Color is not claimed as a feature of the mark. The mark consists of the word "LOTTO" in lowercase stylized lettering followed by an exclamation point that extends above and below the letters; both the letters and the exclamation point are outlined, with the entire mark being outlined as well.
Type of Mark SERVICE MARK
Register SUPPLEMENTAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

 

[todaygold]

You are too funny! Did you miss the part in your post that says: 'NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "LOTTO" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN'. All this is is a trademark for the specific design, not for the word 'lotto'. You can't possibly be dumb enough to actually believe the first time the word 'lotto' was used in commerce was in 2013, can you?

 

[gilescoley]

You are too funny! Did you miss the part in your post that says: 'NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "LOTTO" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN'. All this is is a trademark for the specific design, not for the word 'lotto'. You can't possibly be dumb enough to actually believe the first time the word 'lotto' was used in commerce was in 2013, can you?

There are plenty of other TMs as well

Someone needs to read through this section

https://www.namepros.com/forums/legal-discussion.229/

By the way, try not to insult people when they are offering other people advice...its just nice to be nice

 

[todaygold]

There are plenty of other TMs as well

Plenty of other TM's on what? Please don't tell me you are talking about 'lotto' because you have already made yourself look dumb with your last post!

 

[Corey]

any value, Appraise please
Thank you guys

2 options

1. request a refund/credit
2. delete

Cheers
Corey

 

[gilescoley]

Please don't tell me you are talking about 'lotto' because you have already made yourself look dumb with your last post!

I assume you are just a teenager with nothing else to do...we see people like you on here all the time, just looking for attention, you will be gone in 3 months, mark my words...ignored for now so dont bother replying

 

[todaygold]

I assume you are just a teenager with nothing else to do...we see people like you on here all the time, you will be gone in 3 months, mark my words

Actually, I'm retired. And if you notice, I've already been here almost 6 months.

 

[Kieran001]

There are plenty of other TMs as well

Someone needs to read through this section

https://www.namepros.com/forums/legal-discussion.229/

By the way, try not to insult people when they are offering other people advice...its just nice to be nice

I hope you at least now realize that you were wrong. Lotto just means 'a lot' in Italian and has been used for games, the first being a card game, since the 1700's, it is not a trade mark, it is a dictionary word which is used in a way that is not distinct from its definition, it is used in exactly the same way, it would be like trying to trademark "shoe". If you do not understand trade mark law at all then what is the value you see in you "offering other people advice"?

 

[gilescoley]

I hope you at least now realize that you were wrong

Nope, and I'm really not getting into this again, a lot of this is common sense

I actually do understand TM's but more about domain/internet law, the TM is filed by Connecticut Lottery Corporation, its all about usage with domains and what your intent is with the name...any other ideas on what LastMinuteLotto.com can be used for? Cmon, anyone can see that

There are plenty of cases out there with "LOTTO" and showing bad faith and the verdicts at the bottom

http://www.adrforum.com/domaindecisions/1337211.htm

it is a dictionary word

This is irrelevant, so was Apple, Orange and Caterpillar

Good luck to the OP though

 

[Kieran001]

Nope, and I'm really not getting into this again, a lot of this is common sense

I actually do understand TM's but more about domain/internet law, the TM is filed by Connecticut Lottery Corporation, its all about usage with domains and what your intent is with the name...any other ideas on what LastMinuteLotto.com can be used for? Cmon, anyone can see that

There are plenty of cases out there with "LOTTO" and showing bad faith and the verdicts at the bottom

http://www.adrforum.com/domaindecisions/1337211.htm



This is irrelevant, so was Apple, Orange and Caterpillar

Good luck to the OP though

Oh, so you really don't understand. Being a dictionary word is not relevant alone, you took my statement out of context or did not understand it, it is the fact that the use of the word does not differ substantially from the definition of the dictionary word, which is actually, lottery. Apple as a computer manufacturer differs from the dictionary definition which is a fruit, get it now? This really is the most basic element of trademark law.

 

[Kieran001]

Nope, and I'm really not getting into this again, a lot of this is common sense

I actually do understand TM's but more about domain/internet law, the TM is filed by Connecticut Lottery Corporation, its all about usage with domains and what your intent is with the name...any other ideas on what LastMinuteLotto.com can be used for? Cmon, anyone can see that

There are plenty of cases out there with "LOTTO" and showing bad faith and the verdicts at the bottom

http://www.adrforum.com/domaindecisions/1337211.htm



This is irrelevant, so was Apple, Orange and Caterpillar

Good luck to the OP though

As for the case you have linked to, its quite an interesting one, as they do not own any trademark containing 'Lotto' but they do own 'Texas Lottery Commission', and considering that lotto means lottery and the domain name was lottotexas, this was enough for them to win against that use. But no one owns 'lottery' or 'lotto' they are both generic words that have been used in many countries since before trademark law began. If someone owned 'Last minute lottery' they could file a complaint and possibly win against 'Last minute lotto', but who else could?

 

[gilescoley]

Oh, so you really don't understand. Being a dictionary word is not relevant alone, you took my statement out of context or did not understand it, it is the fact that the use of the word does not differ substantially from the definition of the dictionary word, which is actually, lottery. Apple as a computer manufacturer differs from the dictionary definition which is a fruit, get it now? This really is the most basic element of trademark law.

ok, Im just showing it makes no difference about it being a dictionary word, its better to stay away from terms that are TM'd especially when using them in the same industry, simple..if he was using "LastMinuteLotto" for a last minute flight booking company, then thats fine, he will be ok as its not infringing on the TM in any way, but its not hard to imagine what market LastMinuteLotto would be aimed at?

As for the case you have linked to, its quite an interesting one, as they do not own any trademark containing 'Lotto' but they do own 'Texas Lottery Commission', and considering that lotto means lottery and the domain name was lottotexas, this was enough for them to win against that use. But no one owns 'lottery' or 'lotto' they are both generic words that have been used in many countries since before trademark law began. If someone owned 'Last minute lottery' they could file a complaint and possibly win against 'Last minute lotto', but who else could?

Exactly, and this my point about not risking registering names like that, its might not be the exact word or directly related to the TM, but it can lead to trouble and you will more than likely lose with names like this as most of the time its pretty obvious whats happening. Its just not worth the risk and thats what I was trying to show the OP..its totally up to the individual at the end of the day, my advice is there it be taken or ignored, it doesn't really matter to me.

 

[Kieran001]

ok, Im just showing it makes no difference about it being a dictionary word, its better to stay away from terms that are TM'd especially when using them in the same industry, simple..if he was using "LastMinuteLotto" for a last minute flight booking company, then thats fine, he will be ok as its not infringing on the TM in any way, but its not hard to imagine what market LastMinuteLotto would be aimed at?

The main part of my post was the first part which indicates someone else that has had issues, which you you ignored.

Yeah, the rather simple point you keep missing being that lotto is not trademarked nor would it be possible to trademark it as it is a dictionary word which means the very thing you would be using it for, I thought I had made that clear already and I hope it is simple enough for you this time.

 

[gilescoley]

Yes I do see your point..but my example just shows a name with the word "Lotto" in it can be taken away from you in a udrp..thats all im saying.