.la and premium names

[Peter]

I was just this minute checking out the FAQ of the .la registry https://www.la/faq.php.

If you take a look you will see in the question "How do I transfer a .LA domain name to LA Names or to another registrar?"

they state the following:-

A: Transferring registrars is done by contacting the new registrar and telling them you wish to move your domain registration over to them.
To tell us you wish to transfer a domain to us, please let us know by e-mailing [email protected].
To transfer your registration away from us, you should just contact the new registrar. They will give you further instructions. Once we've received the transfer request from them, we will notify you and you should return to the "Domain > Transfer" area and click either the "Approve" or "Deny" links that will have appeared on the page for that domain. NOTE PREMIUM NAMES CANNOT BE TRANSFERRED FROM US.

The faq goes on to further say:-

What are "Premium Domain Names"?
A: Any single letter, two-letter or three-letter domain name or any other generic name which fee is more than $50 per year. The only difference with a premium name and any other name is that we have restrictions on transferring to other .LA accredited Registrars. You may, of course, sell the name to another registrant for the term of unexpired registration.

To me personally this is unethical, I would not be able to transfer any premium names to another preferable registrar. At present the page that lists the premium domains states "Coming soon!". If I were to spend x amount of $/£ on a domain name I know I would want to transfer it to where the bulk of my domain names are. Also who decides on the value of a domain name? Say I register a domain name for reg fee and later go onto sell the domain for $100 does that automatically make it a premium domain name? Will they suddenly demand that the domain name be transferred from the new owners registrar to them?

Why are they so insistent that premium domain names do not leave their grasp? Is it correct and proper that they should do so?

What are your thoughts on this?

 

[kev]

I was just this minute checking out the FAQ of the .la registry https://www.la/faq.php.

If you take a look you will see in the question "How do I transfer a .LA domain name to LA Names or to another registrar?"

they state the following:-



The faq goes on to further say:-



To me personally this is unethical, I would not be able to transfer any premium names to another preferable registrar. At present the page that lists the premium domains states "Coming soon!". If I were to spend x amount of $/£ on a domain name I know I would want to transfer it to where the bulk of my domain names are. Also who decides on the value of a domain name? Say I register a domain name for reg fee and later go onto sell the domain for $100 does that automatically make it a premium domain name? Will they suddenly demand that the domain name be transferred from the new owners registrar to them?

Why are they so insistent that premium domain names do not leave their grasp? Is it correct and proper that they should do so?

What are your thoughts on this?

i heard recently they were not allowing single letter names to be re-registered by their current owners. so are they taking them off there owners in order to make additional profit!?

 

[markmiddleton]

I am not touching .la names in any of my purchases as they seem the most dubious registry in existence.

I can see this extension causing a lot of people headaches and they are indeed right now with their most recent decision to simply, 'change their mind' and disallow certain people's investments or sites to continue.

Can you imagine if you'd spent time building up not only a sale on one of those products but a website, paid design costs, heck even advertised. The whole idea has turned me off purchasing any .la I was looking at for the foreseeable future. There are enough opportunities elsewhere and indeed unknown variables in domain name speculation, without adding an uncertain third party behind the scenes who make snap arbitrary decisions.

 

[Dan]

I have an LL .la and I never got an email saying any of this. It's registered at Dotster for $30 or $40..

 

[kev]

I am not touching .la names in any of my purchases as they seem the most dubious registry in existence.

I can see this extension causing a lot of people headaches and they are indeed right now with their most recent decision to simply, 'change their mind' and disallow certain people's investments or sites to continue.

Can you imagine if you'd spent time building up not only a sale on one of those products but a website, paid design costs, heck even advertised. The whole idea has turned me off purchasing any .la I was looking at for the foreseeable future. There are enough opportunities elsewhere and indeed unknown variables in domain name speculation, without adding an uncertain third party behind the scenes who make snap arbitrary decisions.

i agree...some of those L.la names have alexa ranks as low as 90,000 so to have them taken off you must be a nightmare...dont touch .la! :hehe:

 

[think]

I was just this minute checking out the FAQ of the .la registry https://www.la/faq.php.

If you take a look you will see in the question "How do I transfer a .LA domain name to LA Names or to another registrar?"

they state the following:-



The faq goes on to further say:-



To me personally this is unethical, I would not be able to transfer any premium names to another preferable registrar. At present the page that lists the premium domains states "Coming soon!". If I were to spend x amount of $/£ on a domain name I know I would want to transfer it to where the bulk of my domain names are. Also who decides on the value of a domain name? Say I register a domain name for reg fee and later go onto sell the domain for $100 does that automatically make it a premium domain name? Will they suddenly demand that the domain name be transferred from the new owners registrar to them?

Why are they so insistent that premium domain names do not leave their grasp? Is it correct and proper that they should do so?

What are your thoughts on this?

Dot TV premiums operate on the same premise. Due to the nature of it being a cctld the company managing it has the right to make the rules as it sees fit. As a domainer I'd prefer the ability to transfer for consolidation purposes but that is just the way it is if I want to invest in the premium names.

 

[Peter]

Dot TV premiums operate on the same premise. Due to the nature of it being a cctld the company managing it has the right to make the rules as it sees fit.

Someone did actually mention that to me but as of yet not been able to find the transfer faq/tos on .tv domains.

 

[think]

Someone did actually mention that to me but as of yet not been able to find the transfer faq/tos on .tv domains.

http://supportcenter.custhelp.com/c...wNCZwX2NjZl82PWVOb20gQ2VudHJhbA**&p_topview=1

[Edit] I just noticed the link might not work unless you are logged into your Enom account. Here is the text from the support center:

" Can you transfer a .TV premium domain name to another registrar?
Question


Can I transfer a premium .TV name to another registrar? I'm trying to consolidate all my domains and need to remove the lock.
Answer


As the exclusive registrar for .TV premium domains eNom is bound by the .TV registry restriction that prohibits registrar transfer of these names. Therefore, if a name is considered a premium .TV domain, it is not eligible for registrar transfer and we cannot remove the lock.

Other registrars may offer you a lower renewal rate on premium domains; however, if it has been designated as a premium domain, only eNom can provide you with premium renewal services. Additionally, as the exclusive registrar for .TV premium domains, only eNom is authorized to register premium .TV names on your behalf."

 

[Peter]

thanks for the info think I did not think of checking on Enom.

 

[think]

thanks for the info think I did not think of checking on Enom.

Took me awhile to find as well

Cheers,

C.T. Kirkpatrick

 

[Peter]

Just a note I have created a thread regarding the .tv HERE so that the 2 issues are made aware to those who are not aware and also so I can gauge the feeling of people with regards to that particular extension (I am currently working on something related to this so everyone's input is gratefully received).

 

[maximum]

Some might argue ethics behind either registry putting transfer limitations. Same logic, however, would dictate that there should be no "premium" names at all in the first place, and that all names in a new extension are on a first-come-first-served basis - ALL NAMES. I don't have much of a problem with this as it is. What does bother me bad though (and I am reading this here, not checked on it myself - as I don't do .LA's) is what member kev said: "i heard recently they were not allowing single letter names to be re-registered by their current owners. so are they taking them off there owners in order to make additional profit!?" If they can't be renewed, not additional profit, unless they using them to point to registry (like NetSol did for so long with not-found-.com's all pointing to their site) to get more biz; versus say for a back-end like the single-character .com/.net/.org's that are gone. But, still, folks work very hard on and could spend fortunes on them, just to later not be able to renew them...sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen...and if true, damn should be

 

[Peter]

Some might argue ethics behind either registry putting transfer limitations. Same logic, however, would dictate that there should be no "premium" names at all in the first place, and that all names in a new extension are on a first-come-first-served basis - ALL NAMES.

I 100% agree these registries do not seem content with getting the money per reg but seem to want to milk extra on top. I really do not like it when they seem to intentionally leave the potential of where the goal posts lye open

What does bother me bad though (and I am reading this here, not checked on it myself - as I don't do .LA's) is what member kev said: "i heard recently they were not allowing single letter names to be re-registered by their current owners. so are they taking them off there owners in order to make additional profit!?" If they can't be renewed, not additional profit, unless they using them to point to registry (like NetSol did for so long with not-found-.com's all pointing to their site) to get more biz; versus say for a back-end like the single-character .com/.net/.org's that are gone. But, still, folks work very hard on and could spend fortunes on them, just to later not be able to renew them...sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen...and if true, damn should be

Yes if it is true they seem to be ensuring that their customers build up a web site on a domain name, allow it to get heavy traffic and then take the domain off of the person and make money either by reselling it or through ppc.