Just created and purchased 7 brand new TLDs!!! What are your thoughts?

[Pavlentiy]

As the title says, I have just minted 7 brand new web3.0 TLDs. I have done tremendous amount of research and marinating, to finally pull the plug and purchase the following:

.w3live
.w3tech
.w3shop
.w3online
.w3world
.w3travel
.w3store

These are mine, forever! No transfer fees, no maintenance fees, no annual fees, nothing! What I do have and purchased along with the aforementioned, are royalty rights to each of them. What that means, is - should anyone, at any point in time, wish to create a domain on top, I am entitled to 50% of the domain cost.

The hardest part was trying to figure out what will most likely be desired - web3 vs w3. There is a really good discussion here, on one of the posts, regarding exactly this topic. As I initially thought, 'w3' has the general public's consensus. I, myself, prior to even stumbling upon the aforementioned discussion, have seen numerous 'w3' abbreviations used for in a plethora of domains. Obviously, the length, or the general desire to have TLD's be as short as possible, would naturally dictate w3 to be the winner... however, when searching for the above, I noticed some of the extensions were already purchased for web3 prefixes. Again, those who purchased them, were newbies interested in web3 content, just like me. We will see who wins but I have to say I am absolutely STOKED!!

The extensive research I did, was in regards to the traffic and popularity of the extensions (everything following 'w3') themselves. Everything that you see, is in the top 20 TLDs - meaning every TLD (e.g. .travel, .live, .tech, .online.... etc) was among the top 20 most popular TLDs... Not only that, but there is a service that tracks every single TLD indexed by ICANN and the respective account of each and every domain built in the past year on top of them. Those TLDs are also in the top 20 for most generated domains on top of them.

Anyway.... what do you guys think? By the way (and please take this as a joke, unless of course someone wants to.. because it's meant as a joke and not a shill) if anyone decides to create on top... I'll give them 25%n off, hahhah.

But seriously, as you can tell, I am extremely excited and am interested in your opinions.

 

[NFD]

.. if HNS takes off
Well, we already have SPACE ID for it! Sam!!! You will NOT stop the progress!!
I apologize for the blue face. I didn't expect it to be so dark

 

[branding]

Alttlds... lol... historically proven to fail..have fun though.

 

[JohnAmibo]

Very Nice, I have the following Freename TLDs

.WalletAddress (Over 400 Domains (SLDs) Created so far)
.ArtCollector
.ArtCollection

 

[Pavlentiy]

Very Nice, I have the following Freename TLDs

.WalletAddress (Over 400 Domains (SLDs) Created so far)
.ArtCollector
.ArtCollection

WOOOOOWWWW!! Man, 400 slds??? Are you serious? That is insane and, I'm sorry, but would have NEVER, ever thought such tld would have so many domains under it. Thats crazy! So, I'm not sure when I created this post - it was immediately after my purchase of the domains - I have had a total of 10 slds created underneath mine. Every one has been used, with .w3shop surprisingly leading with 3 slds. To be honest, I would have done things differently now and I have realized that I certainly do not understand this space, as I'm seeing tlds I would have never thought, getting ton of slds created underneath them.

How long have you had yours and what could possibly drive such steong traffic, any guesses? Either way, it is awesome, should you ever decide to sell, i think it would most certainly demand a huge premium already having so many slds.

But I don't understand why so many? Its as if they are to be used as payment addresses, which would make sense, but still. Regardless, way to go... just curious if you thought it would do this well?

 

[HotKey]

Are these on Handshake?

Generally I stay away from latest trendy hyped web3 ai whatevers in TLDs because there's only so much investing/build that will be done before interest dies out with just a handful that survive the test of time.

I would avoid freename and unstoppable as these are company owned. There is no interest at hand to bettering the Web.

 

[RYANS.APP]

Are these on Handshake?

Generally I stay away from latest trendy hyped web3 ai whatevers in TLDs because there's only so much investing/build that will be done before interest dies out with just a handful that survive the test of time.

I would avoid freename and unstoppable as these are company owned. There is no interest at hand to bettering the Web.

I agree, Handshake is the only real protocol that decentralizes TLDs as there is no organization behind it and the money spent to purchase names onchain is burned. Not only is it backwards compatible with the existing ICANN system, it's easy to use in any browser or backend just by changing your DNS gateway, no extensions required.

 

[SpareDomains]

I minted 4 tld at the end of april. Was more of throw a few bucks on a lottery ticket and see what happens. Just logged in today since then and out of the 4 I minted 12 purchases have been made on 3 of the 4 tld's. 7,3,2,0. All 4 sat dormant for a good handful of months so all 12 purchases were made in the last 2-3 months. Not getting rich obviously but doing better than I expected or at least some form of traction considering I've done zero promotion of them. See if it grows from the 12 or not in 2024.

 

[Pavlentiy]

I don't know what you paid or if it was a good move, but you have to consider these things if HNS takes off:

• There are a billion new TLDs.
• Each TLD can support an infinite number of domain names.
• While the number of available names increases, the demand for names does not increase.
• New TLDs already come along all the time and many are not popular.
• Your TLDs are longer than most TLDs.
• The name for the actual Web3 implementation may not even be called "Web3" when it is finally a reality, because if Web4 comes out then whoever runs the prevailing service (Facebook, X, whatever) would have to change the name.
• There is a .web3 HNS TLD that you might have to compete with if you sell domains.
• All your names are descriptive so mostly can't be trademarked.
• It might be hard to remember a 2-word combination for every different website, like if you hear it on the radio or see it on a flyer. So most likely only a handful of TLDs will be relevant, as it is now.

You might make money if TLDs routinely get bought up by businesses with the same name, and a company named "web3live" makes it big. The TLD might be used for subdomains like shop.web3live, support.web3live, etc. But is that really so much better than web3live.com/shop or (with HNS) web3live.c/shop or shop.web3live.c that they would bother? I'm not sure.

Great questions. I ask and have concerns as well but in the end it's just a gamble. I don't mind saying that I paid about a grand for all with royalties rights. Thus far I have had 12 SLDs created, which has put about 50 bucks in my pocket. If I were to do it again, I would have surely picked something entirely different. However, to entertain your question as to why would someone want to create an SLD underneath my TLD, or purchase w3live, vs .live. or w3world vs .world, the answer is very very simple - cost and ownership. Because not only will the aforementioned cost one millionth (we are talking about top twenty tlds under icann... without the w3 prefix, all my slds are in the top 20 of all TLDs), but it will be yours forever and it will never require subscription or any other annual fee. To me, that is HUGE!
I doubt web4 is going to come along. If you understand the web3 concept from the evolutionary perspective, it is not just some way to describe technical aspect of the new web, or some new tech. IMO, web3 stands for the premise, a concept, a revolution of decentralization of the current web2 schema.

 

[pcfreak30]

Great questions. I ask and have concerns as well but in the end it's just a gamble. I don't mind saying that I paid about a grand for all with royalties rights. Thus far I have had 12 SLDs created, which has put about 50 bucks in my pocket. If I were to do it again, I would have surely picked something entirely different. However, to entertain your question as to why would someone want to create an SLD underneath my TLD, or purchase w3live, vs .live. or w3world vs .world, the answer is very very simple - cost and ownership. Because not only will the aforementioned cost one millionth (we are talking about top twenty tlds under icann... without the w3 prefix, all my slds are in the top 20 of all TLDs), but it will be yours forever and it will never require subscription or any other annual fee. To me, that is HUGE!
I doubt web4 is going to come along. If you understand the web3 concept from the evolutionary perspective, it is not just some way to describe technical aspect of the new web, or some new tech. IMO, web3 stands for the premise, a concept, a revolution of decentralization of the current web2 schema.

Hello, fellow HNS holder and web3 builder. Interesting to see another person from the other side here.

TBH I have personally avoided any reference to web3, w3 or similar in any web3 asset I have gotten. I just find it weird. I target those as keywords at times in ICANN, but I find it redundant because long term the goal of web3 is it needs to feel like what we are doing right now, but decentralized and in your control. Meaning that you shouldnt need to know its "web3". Hell, web3 might not even have meaning in a decade but my gut is it will become like the world "cloud" and stick around as a broad value set.

I own a lot of high value HNS assets at fairly good deals (Being early, much like the .com boom ).

And to everyone reading who isn't in this space and doesn't have a dog in the fight:

• HNS started out with VC funding and an airdrop that went mostly to FOSS projects. It is based off Bitcoin.
  • HNS might have Namecheap behind it, but it has very limited community funding (its broke tbh), so it will take a long time to be more "real".
  • HNS has no foundation or "official" entity.
  • HNS is the most or probably only decentralized root naming system, and tries to be a successor to namecoin.
• ENS is probably the second in line, except it doesn't try to be the root, and stays in its lane for the most part
• The rest more/less are VC funded companies running registries, charge a lot of money, putting a lot of casino-style marketing and "integrations" and partnerships out. Its frankly silicon valley type companies trying to cash grab the web3 market with out actually sharing the ethos and getting headlines even in this forum, just b/c it has money to blow for PR.
  • Generally speaking, if a web3 domain project can blow a million+ USD on marketing, it should be looked at critically to see how decentralized it really is.
• So, if anyone from here wants to go gamble in web3, do your homework, learn the tech and figure out if they actually care or are DINO (Decentralized In Name Only).
• Oh and that so-called domain alliance is a joke and antithetical to the space. Yes there will be collisions. Good web3 citizens ideally will try to cooperate for the end user, but if you are delegating authority back to an ICANN-like entity to say who has power... your not freaking decentralized .
• Web3 creates cooperation as much as it creates anarchy. Embrace it.

Hope this helps.


Kudos

 

[Pavlentiy]

I don't know what you paid or if it was a good move, but you have to consider these things if HNS takes off:

• There are a billion new TLDs.
• Each TLD can support an infinite number of domain names.
• While the number of available names increases, the demand for names does not increase.
• New TLDs already come along all the time and many are not popular.
• Your TLDs are longer than most TLDs.
• The name for the actual Web3 implementation may not even be called "Web3" when it is finally a reality, because if Web4 comes out then whoever runs the prevailing service (Facebook, X, whatever) would have to change the name.
• There is a .web3 HNS TLD that you might have to compete with if you sell domains.
• All your names are descriptive so mostly can't be trademarked.
• It might be hard to remember a 2-word combination for every different website, like if you hear it on the radio or see it on a flyer. So most likely only a handful of TLDs will be relevant, as it is now.

You might make money if TLDs routinely get bought up by businesses with the same name, and a company named "web3live" makes it big. The TLD might be used for subdomains like shop.web3live, support.web3live, etc. But is that really so much better than web3live.com/shop or (with HNS) web3live.c/shop or shop.web3live.c that they would bother? I'm not sure.

I wanted to add - do you see someone's previous reply regarding their tlds? One of theirs is - .digitalwallet. at least 2 as long as all of mine, yet it already has close to 500 slds created underneath. I would have NEVER guessed and I too, was and continue to be very concerned regarding the length. I chose to purchase all of those in hopes it would give me better chances at securing slds. But perhaps the number one reason was the cost. Not sure what it is like right now, but when I purchased them, 4 characters was a min of 10k, 3 - 30k, and so forth.

Hello, fellow HNS holder and web3 builder. Interesting to see another person from the other side here.

TBH I have personally avoided any reference to web3, w3 or similar in any web3 asset I have gotten. I just find it weird. I target those as keywords at times in ICANN, but I find it redundant because long term the goal of web3 is it needs to feel like what we are doing right now, but decentralized and in your control. Meaning that you shouldnt need to know its "web3". Hell, web3 might not even have meaning in a decade but my gut is it will become like the world "cloud" and stick around as a broad value set.

I own a lot of high value HNS assets at fairly good deals (Being early, much like the .com boom ).

And to everyone reading who isn't in this space and doesn't have a dog in the fight:

• HNS started out with VC funding and an airdrop that went mostly to FOSS projects. It is based off Bitcoin.
  • HNS might have Namecheap behind it, but it has very limited community funding (its broke tbh), so it will take a long time to be more "real".
  • HNS has no foundation or "official" entity.
  • HNS is the most or probably only decentralized root naming system, and tries to be a successor to namecoin.
• ENS is probably the second in line, except it doesn't try to be the root, and stays in its lane for the most part
• The rest more/less are VC funded companies running registries, charge a lot of money, putting a lot of casino-style marketing and "integrations" and partnerships out. Its frankly silicon valley type companies trying to cash grab the web3 market with out actually sharing the ethos and getting headlines even in this forum, just b/c it has money to blow for PR.
  • Generally speaking, if a web3 domain project can blow a million+ USD on marketing, it should be looked at critically to see how decentralized it really is.
• So, if anyone from here wants to go gamble in web3, do your homework, learn the tech and figure out if they actually care or are DINO (Decentralized In Name Only).
• Oh and that so-called domain alliance is a joke and antithetical to the space. Yes there will be collisions. Good web3 citizens ideally will try to cooperate for the end user, but if you are delegating authority back to an ICANN-like entity to say who has power... your not freaking decentralized .
• Web3 creates cooperation as much as it creates anarchy. Embrace it.

Hope this helps.


Kudos

Hey man, good stuff, truly


You know, you live and learn right? Would I have spent what I've spent again, sure. Would I have chosen the same names, the answer is no.

I've been thinking a lot about the possible collisions and what that would entail and I not so much feel that there should be an alliance, but rather a central (and I do not mean ownership) repository of all TLD, to serve as the reference point only and disallow the creation of an already existing tld or domain.

 

[pcfreak30]

I wanted to add - do you see someone's previous reply regarding their tlds? One of theirs is - .digitalwallet. at least 2 as long as all of mine, yet it already has close to 500 slds created underneath. I would have NEVER guessed and I too, was and continue to be very concerned regarding the length. I chose to purchase all of those in hopes it would give me better chances at securing slds. But perhaps the number one reason was the cost. Not sure what it is like right now, but when I purchased them, 4 characters was a min of 10k, 3 - 30k, and so forth.

Hey man, good stuff, truly


You know, you live and learn right? Would I have spent what I've spent again, sure. Would I have chosen the same names, the answer is no.

I've been thinking a lot about the possible collisions and what that would entail and I not so much feel that there should be an alliance, but rather a central (and I do not mean ownership) repository of all TLD, to serve as the reference point only and disallow the creation of an already existing tld or domain.

The thing is, part of the culture and motive around web3 is, yes you can create say a git repo with a JSON or markdown file listing all known TLD's that have active use cases.

But the moment you try to enforce that to try and avoid collisions, you become ICANN. The point is humans will have agendas, politics, their own motives. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

So there is no feasible way to police what TLD's can exist without just getting rid of blockchains and go back to red tape human bureaucracies (ICANN). Blockchain can make it more efficient, but that's a social and human issue that fundamentally requires gate-keeping, unless everyone just tries to informally cooperate, and bad actors will always exist.

Decentralization means chaos, both the beautiful and the ugly.