.mobi It's Makes Zero Difference Where A .mobi Points to

[thinking1]

People argue about how the .mobi names that are currently being developed forward to another address after you type in soandso.mobi.

Once and for all, that doesn't matter! If a company has a .mobi name and are promoting it, it doesn't matter to the user what the end address becomes once they reach the website.

For instance,

Sedo.com redirects to http://www.sedo.com/main.php3?language=us

Flowers.com redirects to http://ww11.1800flowers.com/welcome.do?cm_mmc=tagged-_-na-_-na-_-na&bannerBeacon=true


Now. I don't think since the address at flowers.com changed on me that I'm going to memorize that new address and keep typing it in. The first one seems easier although that's not what the page lands on.

 

[satsdifference.com]

I agree

I agree

It only matters mostly what is being promoted..

Like when Dot Mobi chose Olympic star Wei Wei as their icon, but still today it points to some unique address.. *wonder*

My only concern is if a company is investing in their long term future, why not brand a .mobi off the bat... like polo.mobi, be first.. particularly for bookmarking for the grassroots level people's power.. (that's kinda like the U.S. playing tricks on the rest of the world by moving the clock backward and forward twice - then leaving the whole world confused.. if there may be only 1 time, so when it's 1 o clock, the whole Earth's waves ascend to the melody of that aura)

Why the corny redirects?

Perhaps there is some other, second paying, deal in the backrooms for each step by step process.. in some cases..

I mean it only makes more sense, brand .mobi instead of http://www.mobileportal.se/xhtml.aspx?si=weiwei
(but, I fathom that there is probably a more gigantic reason/dynamics behind this type of choice)

Anways, sometimes when you lose, you win.. I am hungry!

Take one for the team, then flip because they owe you..

One step Back, Then two steps forward etc..


I surrender!



Kind Regards,

Yelo

 

[FathomJH]

Agreed. If the .mobi name is being "punched in" and advertised, what difference does it make?

"Hey bud, can I use your phone to go to flowers.com? I need to order flowers for Mother's Day."

"Sure thing. Don't go to that site though. I like going to http://ww11.1800flowers.com/welcome...nnerBeacon=true better."

Screw that.

Sure you can favorite the link. WTF would you want to. I don't understand people. If the link is shorter and more memorable, that is what they are going to use.

Rep added.

 

[garrett200]

It only matters what url is promoted, the lander is irrelevant. I don't know who would argue with that.

But when there are companies out there promoting "mobile.widgets.com" rather than "widgets.mobi", I think that is pretty stupid.

 

[satsdifference.com]

Yes I agree with this thread

Yes it is a great sign when the brand.mobi is promoted..

Even if it is a redirect, I think it is a good sign.. just to get the foot in the door, it's great for all of us..

Google.mobi etc.. today, now the present is the best time ever..

And later, if there are any more further trends.. like .mobi branding takes off.. then we'll see the further evolving..


But I agree with this thread, at this stage.. any usage of .mobi is a great sign


Kind Regards,

Yelo

 

[thinking1]

:D Thanks

You mean you don't like typing in "http://ww11.1800flowers.com/welcome...nnerBeacon=true". You must be crazy.

Garret. I agree too. I hope we see more companies leave their mobile.whatever.com and gravitate towards .mobi.

 

[satsdifference.com]

:D Thanks

You mean you don't like typing in "http://ww11.1800flowers.com/welcome...nnerBeacon=true". You must be crazy.

Garret. I agree too. I hope we see more companies leave their mobile.whatever.com and gravitate towards .mobi.

Yes!

I think one thing that will spur the trends (and why .com has relatively stagnated mobile growth)

Is not only I have to remember m.yahoo.com

But I also have to remember

google.com/mobile/

and I have to remember

mobile.msn.com

See, that's three different formats..

.mobi is one format that unites all brands from this problem

..and redirects to long URL's means that people are bookmarking something that might change/evolve later hehehe



Kind Regards,

Yelo

 

[Jeff]

It only matters what url is promoted, the lander is irrelevant. I don't know who would argue with that.

No argument there ... but, really, who amongst even the "backers" are promoting their .MOBI "websites"? :gl:

But when there are companies out there promoting "mobile.widgets.com" rather than "widgets.mobi", I think that is pretty stupid.

98.88+% of people have never even heard of .MOBI ... and this will go on for years and years, IMHO. I know it may be hard to swallow here on a domain name website and in a sub-furum for .MOBI domains, but the extension - and example "widgets.mobi" - looks and feels ENTIRELY SILLY and foreign to all but a few, IMHO. Accordingly, example "mobile.widgets.com" (and then whatever they choose to direct that to, by the way) feels and lot more familiar and professional, ITHO's. :gl:

That is why, IF .MOBI becomes successful and reaches the lofty level most in here might expect, we are talking many, many years from today, in my humblest opinion. That's a huge financial and emotional bet!

Please don't put all your eggs in one basket, start developing, and have fun with a wide range of extensions! Please share your thoughts, as well. :talk:
-Jeff

 

[thinking1]

No argument there ... but, really, who amongst even the "backers" are promoting their .MOBI "websites"? :gl:



98.88+% of people have never even heard of .MOBI ... and this will go on for years and years, IMHO. I know it may be hard to swallow here on a domain name website and in a sub-furum for .MOBI domains, but the extension - and example "widgets.mobi" - looks and feels ENTIRELY SILLY and foreign to all but a few, IMHO. Accordingly, example "mobile.widgets.com" (and then whatever they choose to direct that to, by the way) feels and lot more familiar and professional, ITHO's. :gl:

That is why, IF .MOBI becomes successful and reaches the lofty level most in here might expect, we are talking many, many years from today, in my humblest opinion. That's a huge financial and emotional bet!

Please don't put all your eggs in one basket, start developing, and have fun with a wide range of extensions! Please share your thoughts, as well. :talk:
-Jeff

Jeff, why do you repeat the same arguments over and over. You agree with us and then you add your skepticism.

I think you are joking around most of the time. From another thread you honestly said you thought it would take 12-15 years even if it does for mobi to catch on. You sound like you are pulling our legs when you say something like that.

And 98% of people not hearing about mobi. The thread isn't about that. Mobi hasn't been promoted yet, there is barely even any content on it yet. Why should anyone know about mobi right now. Seriously jeff, why would anyone and why should any nondomainer know about mobi. That's such a nonsense point.

Jeff, please stop bringing up things that don't even matter. We all know how you feel about mobi on this board, it is not necessary to go and hijack every thread with your rants because you missed the boat.

I agree with some of your skepticism but enough is enough. You bring irrelevant things up in your posts that don't even matter.

 

[dag]

Jeff, please stop bringing up things that don't even matter. We all know how you feel about mobi on this board, it is not necessary to go and hijack every thread with your rants becaused you missed the boat.

I agree with some of your skepticism but enough is enough. You bring irrelevant things up in your posts from time to time.

I have to agree, on the whole -- please bring us your unique and compelling thoughts from now on...

 

[garrett200]

:notme: hehe

Actually, I think "widgets.mobi" sounds pretty darn good....and the url SPECIFICALLY TELLS YOU that it is intended for mobile use :sold:

 

[Jeff]

From another thread you honestly said you thought it would take 12-15 years even if it does for mobi to catch on. You sound like you are pulling our legs when you say something like that.

Why does that sound like I'm pulling legs? :blink:

The thread is entitled, It's Makes Zero Difference Where A .mobi Points to ... ... and my post, while it may have touched upon related matters that I've posted on before or in the future, in effect disagrees with that statement - because it does make a difference IF NO ONE EVEN KNOWS ABOUT IT or thinks it looks silly and unprofessional, IMHO. :red:

Listen, friend ... I'm on topic (and I will admit that I can digress in the hope of forumlating a "larger picture" from time-to-time), but it is wholly unfair to call me out as "joking", "pulling our legs", "nonsense point", "things that don't matter", "hijack", and "rants" and "irrelevant" ... in an attempt to discredit me because I just so happen to disagree with your opinion(s), IMHO.

Honestly, I think I deserve more than that, humbly.
Thanks for understanding.
-Jeff

I have to agree, on the whole -- please bring us your unique and compelling thoughts from now on...

Righto, and when I see unique and compelling websites being developed, I give kudos each and every time! :tu:

 

[Dan]

I completely agree with Jeff.

This is a domaining forum, and you are posting in a .MOBI subforum where normally only people who really like .mobi post. Of course you have all heard of .mobi, but ask other people. I'm sure none of my friends have ever heard of it. I bet they'd know what to do with mobile.domain.com, though.

If you aren't expecting any differing opinions, why make a thread about it?

When I see a .mobi name being advertised in here like "Holy crap, this company has a .mobi!" and then it redirects to their .com version, I think wow.. why are you getting so excited? I think the fact that they do that shows how they don't care so much about the .mobi. They buy it because it is their company and they need to protect their name.

 

[garrett200]

They buy it because it is their company and they need to protect their name.

Sometimes that may be true, but many of the companies being mentioned lately seem to be buying their .mobi not just to "protect their name", but to be included in the mobile internet revolution and secure their piece of it.

Very smart if you ask me.

Why would a company like Amtrak do a PR talking about Amtrak.mobi if it was just to protect their name? Come on now....it's obviously because they want people to use it.

 

[thinking1]

Jeff, you said this. "98.88+% of people have never even heard of .MOBI ... and this will go on for years and years,"

2 things.

1. please tell me why anyone that isn't a domainer should know about mobi. Seriously, tell me why they should. Most people don't even know about .cc, .biz, .info, etc. Why would regular people know about .mobi. Also, if mobi has barely even started being advertised yet, this argument just makes no sense. I agree that the general public has no clue about mobi. I hope it stays that way for at least another year because there has to be content available before companies start promoting their names.

2. Secondly. where do you get your stats from? You say 98.88% of people haven't heard of mobi. I would say literally .001 of people have heard of .mobi not a little over 2%. That is a vastly different number.

 

[dag]

2. Secondly. where do you get your stats from? You say 98.88% of people haven't heard of mobi. I would say literally .001 of people have heard of .mobi not a little over 2%. That is a vastly different number.

Um, uhhh, thinking? That would be a little under 2%...

But to continue the idea of what thinking1 is talking about, I think when you say things like this, Jeff:

looks and feels ENTIRELY SILLY and foreign to all but a few, IMHO

it sounds entirely silly for you to say that, because first off, how the heck can you claim to speak for anyone but yourself -- "all but a few" who? "All" meaning those who have voiced anti-MOBI opinions here, the few people you've claimed have given you a blank look when you talked about MOBI, and your Ivy League in-law (if I remember correctly)? (And by the way, Jeff, I'm an Ivy Leaguer myself and firmly believe in MOBI's potential.) I mean, really...talk about hyperbole!

And secondly, you can't say something like that and then claim "IMHO" -- something you state as though it were a fact can't be "in your opinion." The two cannot be one in the same. Either it's a fact, and of course it's not in this case, or it's your opinion, and of course that's all it is. So your "opinion" of who thinks what about MOBI doesn't hold any weight.

 

[domaindigger]

Jeff, why do you repeat the same arguments over and over. You agree with us and then you add your skepticism.

I think you are joking around most of the time. From another thread you honestly said you thought it would take 12-15 years even if it does for mobi to catch on. You sound like you are pulling our legs when you say something like that.

And 98% of people not hearing about mobi. The thread isn't about that. Mobi hasn't been promoted yet, there is barely even any content on it yet. Why should anyone know about mobi right now. Seriously jeff, why would anyone and why should any nondomainer know about mobi. That's such a nonsense point.

Jeff, please stop bringing up things that don't even matter. We all know how you feel about mobi on this board, it is not necessary to go and hijack every thread with your rants because you missed the boat.

I agree with some of your skepticism but enough is enough. You bring irrelevant things up in your posts that don't even matter.

I agree 100%. I'm mostly a reader at NP and don't even own that many .mobi's, but Jeff, your subtle and repetitive rants and negativity in the .mobi forum are getting really old.

 

[garrett200]

I agree 100%. I'm mostly a reader at NP and don't even own that many .mobi's, but Jeff, your subtle and repetitive rants and negativity in the .mobi forum are getting really old.

I have arguments with him almost every night in this forum, but I can honestly say that I've learned more from him than just about anyone else.

His "rants" are sometimes valid arguments of things that need to be addressed about this extension.

His skepticism does go overboard on occasion, but it is generally on point and healthy, IMO.

 

[mobidick]

the extension - and example "widgets.mobi" - looks and feels ENTIRELY SILLY and foreign to all but a few, IMHO. Accordingly, example "mobile.widgets.com" (and then whatever they choose to direct that to, by the way) feels and lot more familiar and professional

I would like to address this point... I can only guess Jeff, by the number of your posts, that you're not a teenager,:imho: but you have to open your mind to the possibility that what may be silly to you may be cool to a whole new generation. Do yahoo, google, youtube, etc. sound professional? Are they hugely successful and made a bunch of people filthy rich?

 

[Jeff]

.... but you have to open your mind to the possibility that what may be silly to you may be cool to a whole new generation.

Fair enough, I will work harder to open my mind in this context going forward!

Do yahoo, google, youtube, etc. sound professional? Are they hugely successful and made a bunch of people filthy rich?

They do not exactly sound professional, they are successful ... and many people have become very rich because of it, yes. :music:
Is it possible that .MOBI can, one day, be branded equally, or nearly, as successfully? Yes, perhaps. I think the extension is seriously up against the clock and there are many, many unanswered questions ... but I can respect those that are wisely investing & registering -- >> and then developing their .MOBI websites, IMHO.

Conversely, registering anythingunderthesun.mobi's with no "game plan" to develop (or to potentially sell to End users) is simply giving more money to mTLD, in my view. There will be LOTS of drops in the .MOBI Scraps™ ... and it's ashame.

Thanks.
-Jeff