question Is it a good time to outbound?

[topdom]

Negatives: Economy slowing down, uncertainities, martial law/revolution may be coming, only basic needs matter.

Positives: Endusers are at home. They are playing online games, and checking email more often. They have more time to think about domains.
Also Corona would slow down in the summer, and its creators would be hunted one by one, so no more new spreading.., so not big uncertainity.

Corona may spread to the South hemisphere, and this needs to be blocked.

 

[topdom]

@frostify

I learned a new word: dropship site.
So you don't sell a product but you pretend?
Or you create affiliate sites?


So I suspect this is more about search engine ranking than anything else.
It is difficult to do well with Google ranking without working hard, waiting, being lucky etc.
In the past you could fill pages with keywords and get good traffic.
Now you need to wait, and backlinking sites also need to be old established sites,
and those backlinks need to be aged, nonspammy etc.

But with some hakcing skills you can do great in seo without hurting anyone
(if i had such a skill, I would be a superman).


Probably I wouldn't do such a thing, but I wonder whether filling landing pages at Namesilo, Dynadot , Epik, Dan with "content" would help.

Why would people buy such dropship domains: for their traffic, for their site, or because they become aware of the domain?

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[frostify]

@frostify

I learned a new word: dropship site.
So you don't sell a product but you pretend?
Or you create affiliate sites?


So I suspect this is more about search engine ranking than anything else.
It is difficult to do well with Google ranking without working hard, waiting, being lucky etc.
In the past you could fill pages with keywords and get good traffic.
Now you need to wait, and backlinking sites also need to be old established sites,
and those backlinks need to be aged, nonspammy etc.

But with some hakcing skills you can do great in seo without hurting anyone
(if i had such a skill, I would be a superman).


Probably I wouldn't do such a thing, but I wonder whether filling landing pages at Namesilo, Dynadot , Epik, Dan with "content" would help.

Why would people buy such dropship domains: for their traffic, for their site, or because they become aware of the domain?

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With a dropshipping site, you basically create a website with a storefront that users visit that provides products, images, descriptions, sometimes prices or a "check price" button, and then the user either completes the sale on your website and you use a supplier (such as Aliexpress, or a whitelabel provider) to actually fulfill the orders and ship the product to the customer's home. With "referral" type dropshipping (Amazon for example) the user is redirected from your website to the website that is offering commissions and you earn a percentage or fixed amount for each sale referred from your site to their site which is tracked with a unique tracking code in the URL. Amazon for example pays up to 10% as part of the Amazon Associates program. Hope this answers your question.

A fabulous example of a site that incorporates the Amazon Associates program as well as many other suppliers/affiliates is https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/

Disclaimer: I do not own this site, I wish I did!

 

[frostify]

Which landing platform you use for parked domains is entirely up to you:
Brandbucket, Brandpa, Epik.com, DAN.com, etc.

But one thing is for sure, you should use one of them to park your domains that are not hosting active websites!

You can't capture rain if you don't setup buckets.

Make sure potential end-buyers are aware your domain IS FOR SALE with an easy way for them to inquire and reach out to you so they can buy them. Don't just have a blank page up.

(note: some of my domains do not have parking pages because I may develop starter-sites on them in the very near future)

 

[BrandCollectors.com]

just offered a com for 50 usd got responce from end user:
"try 1500.00"

 

[BrandCollectors.com]

You offered a .com for 50 to end user, but he wants to pay you 1500?

correct

i tried to offering world-of-art
surprisingly I found so many domains that contains world-of-art.

end user have blabla-world-of-art

 

[koolishman]

Check out response I got.


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And this one.


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Expected.

Survival first! Domain names can wait.

 

[Samer]

Check out response I got.


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And this one.


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I really like the reply of the second company.

Thanks for sharing

Samer

 

[Domains Ted]

It is time to buy at cheap prices. The market will recover in a few months.

 

[koolishman]

It may be a little slow but it recovers.

It recovers, true.

But locking up money thinking you can flip quickly within a few months, may not be a good decision. Unless you have a thick wallet.

 

[Samer]

It may be a little slow but it recovers.

it always does,

i read somewhere most people got rich during 2009 great recession buying at bargain — and sold after the market recovered.

Truly believe can apply this to domaining,
many people need money since stocks down.
Maybe use that

 

[topdom]

@frostify

Ok, it looks like you add useful content in some way. But then how would people decide to buy your domain.

1. Because you do outbounding
2. Because you get ranking for some searches

Which one, both, neither?


.....

If this works, why not create casino sites. I have casino domains which receive 10-100 visits per day, but when parked at Sedo, earns zero cents, while normally 10 visits should be worth 1 click and 1 click should be worth $100.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Negatives: Economy slowing down, uncertainities, martial law/revolution may be coming, only basic needs matter.

Positives: Endusers are at home. They are playing online games, and checking email more often. They have more time to think about domains.
Also Corona would slow down in the summer, and its creators would be hunted one by one, so no more new spreading.., so not big uncertainity.

Corona may spread to the South hemisphere, and this needs to be blocked.

Anytime is a good time to outbound market domains. I just hand registered three perfectly good domains to offer three different industries/businesses; 1. the real estate industry WaterfrontXXXXXXXX.com 2. the automobile industry, DollarDownXXXXX.com and 3. the restaurant industry, CatchXXXGrill.com

All together I spent $22.50 for three domains that are valued at over $4,000, and if anyone thinks I'm stupid enough to sit on my hands and wait for God or anyone to send me a buyer, they're crazy

Arrogance or Common Sense? What do your think

 

[damance]

not good time for outbound

 

[GetBigDomains]

Respectfully, after reading Bobs response, I'll be limiting my outbound messages.

Though I feel for Affiliate, Marketing, Media, or online IT or Tech it may be helpful
IF specifically targeted within your NETWORK only. Businesses helping businesses!

Starter sites and apps may also be in demand and development I had few inquiries.

So I wouldn't bulk message or disturb anyone right now, but keep your eyes open.
People also need to stay busy and think of other things than the c.v. especially if they
are self isolating!!!

Conclusion:
OUTBOUND NO
NETWORK YES

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Sounds good Bob! What could be done with Ladies-Gifts.com? Would that be worth building? Might be interested!!!

This might be better directed to @frostify who presented the idea and has had success with it. I simply was asking a few questions and expressing opinion it seems an approach worth considering, but have not, yet, done so personally.

The following may be applicable to how might try to implement with ladies-gifts.

It's pretty much a completely different niche every time but the trend I try to follow is products without too much competition or put a unique spin on it, and then you want products with a healthy margin of profit, cart values of $50 to $100 seem to be a good

What I like about @frostify approach is that clear added value has been applied to domain making it more saleable.

Bob

 

[bulkdomainz]

Haven't been able to bring myself to do any outbounding since corona started, cos I think most prospective customers will just not be in the mood right now, with the exception of buyers of names that have to do with essentials needed to weather this outbreak.

I will try some outbound next week, and see what happens.

 

[Zagalee]

It will soon be over.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Thank you for the very complete answer, @frostify. I have learned much from your detailed response, or at least know what I need to learn , and i am sure that other readers have greatly benefited from the detail you provided as well.

This approach seems to me very wise....

but the trend I try to follow is products without too much competition or put a unique spin on it, and then you want products with a healthy margin of profit

Thanks so much! Best wishes for continued success.

Bob

 

[Bob Hawkes]

I wonder whether filling landing pages at Namesilo, Dynadot , Epik, Dan with "content" would help.

I may be technically wrong here, but I think the different places do their landers differently, so that some are treated as sites and some are not. Clearly at Epik they are little sites, even with their own security certificate along with ability to include links and images as well as text content, and I was interested in the same question you ask. I did not put content on my landers just to get traffic, but as trial some of my landers there (of similar names I would think) had no text, some had some text, and some had a lot of text and numerous links. They also allow one to optimize for search with title, description. I doubt I do this very efficiently, but don't leave it blank.

The performance tab at Epik shows the Alexa ranking. My sort of hand reg quality names generally are somewhere between about 1.5M and 10M, none are currently in Alexa 1M. If I have a domain name, say in a new extension, of format word1.word2 and if I do a Google search for word1 word2 (with space) usually nowhere near top of search results. However if I make my search word1 word2 domain (that is the word domain because my description always mentions domain name somewhere) then often it is near or even at the top of the Google search results. Is that of any help? Not sure.

I have found that the other marketplace lander results will sometimes similarly show up, but it seems less so although I have not rigorously tested.

Does Google think it is a real site? I think so. Would additional content and links and especially a back link make it higher? Probably. Would it get high enough to really help sell the domain name? I kind of doubt it in most cases.

Keep in mind I know almost nothing about SEO! But these are my impressions based on about 8 months of descriptions on landers at Epik, and a longer time at other places including NameSilo, DAN, Sedo, Afternic, Dynadot, etc.

Bob

 

[Samer]

It is time to buy at cheap prices. The market will recover in a few months.

agree, but think take longer than "few months"

Samer

 

[Domains Ted]

i agree, but think it will take longer than "few months"

Samer

It may be a little slow but it recovers.

 

[dande]

(the problem in my case: people never respond to any email, as if my nonexisting brother reads and deletes emails on both sides).

Hold your nonexisting brother responsible
He has to pay for it. How dare he read and delete those emails, even on both ends

 

[BrandAptly.com]

I theorize that most of the people paying well for domains are those selling products or services related directly or indirectly to the current state of affairs. A domain name like VirusScanner.com (not mine) may do well during this period.

 

[King]

I was thinking of outbounding since I could use extra money right now, but that is also true for end-users so I don't think it will be effective. I think the only buyers right now are investors picking up dropped & liquidating domains.

 

[damance]

"Not right now" seems to be the tune many companies are singing.

Recent response:

Thanks for reaching out. At this time we are scaling back non essential expenses.

However after the market has stabilized I will be happy to pickup this conversation again.

Owning this domain while is important to us / me $2800 is a non essential expense and is far more than I'm willing to spend at this moment.

$2800.. ohh