Is Adam Dicker a criminal? You decide.

[S-B]

This story starts with DNF; a barren wasteland that once was a leading forum within the domain industry. While the forum itself played a huge role in propagating the myth that is Adam Dicker, the story really begins with DNF College in the summer of 2011.

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Updates / Reports
These are in no particular order.

• Report by headsupp (Resolved)
  • Relevant Videos
  • Reply to Adam
  • Update: Resolved
  
  
• Report by LannyB (Unresolved)
  • Response
    • Follow-up Questions
  
  
• Report by domainesque (Unresolved)
  • Update: Unresolved
  • Report Details
  • Update: Waiting on Refund
  
  
• Report of Shane Cultra's friends (Unresolved)
  • Update: Unpaid
  
  
• Report by Jeff Markus (Dissatisfied)
  
  
• Report by simmplex (Resolved)
  • Refunded
  
  
• Report by Blenja_Man (Pending)
  • Voucher
  • Update: Work in Progress
  
  
• Report by RandysDomains (Resolved)
  • Resolved
  
  
• Report by swamismith (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by Charlie (Unresolved)
  • Cover-up
  • Update: Unresolved
  
  
• Report by Jaqpot (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by anon22339 (Unresolved)
  • Details
  
  
• Report by Joseph Peterson (Resolved)
  • Update: Unpaid after 8 days
  • Update: Paid
  
  
• Report by Frank Schilling (Resolved)
  • Update: Paid
  
  
• Report by Lonewolf5503 (Paypal Dispute)
  • Update: Website not delivered and no longer accessible
  • Update: Lonewolf5503 wins PayPal dispute
  
  
• Report by GermanRaven (Unresolved)
  • Update: Full story
  
  
• Report by ClaudeDauman (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by bobsranch (Unresolved)
  • Details
  • Update: Legal Letter Received
  
  
• Report by Newby888 (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by dougasd (Unresolved)

From what I understand, Adam still owes north of $33,000 to previous customers and business partners. As I receive more information, I will update this figure.

 

[hookbox]

Is the worst thing for the Domain Industry really other domainers? After reading this thread I would say No. We all know what is bad for this industry and it's been talked about for the past 45 pages.

I like how you mention you will be setting up a special section for newbies at DNF. How convenient.

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[Domain Truth]

Q: Do you have a definition of Internet crime that I can refer to?

Internet crime is defined as any illegal activity involving one or more components of the Internet, such as websites, chat rooms, and/or email. Internet crime involves the use of the Internet to communicate false or fraudulent representations to consumers. These crimes may include, but are not limited to, advance-fee schemes, non-delivery of goods or services, computer hacking, or employment/business opportunity schemes.

 

[DomainGist]

Do you really think that this is a fair representation of the complaints?

Do you really think that people should be complaining to the FBI?

 

[CloudTech]

It is not a simple "late pay".
It is Having money in bank and saying he has no money and refuse to pay his employees.

 

[DomainGist]

It not was a simple "late pay".
It is Having money in bank and saying he has no money and refuse to pay his employees.

If you are really advocating that somebody files an FBI complaint because their salary was delayed, even though it has since been paid, then don't EVER complain about having to pay high taxes, because somebody has to pay for that, and don't EVER complain if you are the victim of a serious crime and the authorities don't have the resources to properly investigate your complaint.

Look, Adam Dicker is a jerk, that much has already been determined. Talk of reporting this to the FBI is just plain stupid.

 

[Domaingel]

First, let me say I joined this forum after reading this thread yesterday. It just breaks my heart to read all the accounts of fraud and lies. If someone promises things like money or services in exchange for your work or money and fails to deliver on those promises that's not overpromising and underdelivering. It is fraud and theft. Those are crimes and should be reported so that other people in the future do not have to go through all of this.

This is directly from the FBI's Internet Crime FAQ:

Q: Do you have a definition of Internet crime that I can refer to?

Internet crime is defined as any illegal activity involving one or more components of the Internet, such as websites, chat rooms, and/or email. Internet crime involves the use of the Internet to communicate false or fraudulent representations to consumers. These crimes may include, but are not limited to, advance-fee schemes, non-delivery of goods or services, computer hacking, or employment/business opportunity schemes.

Just google "FBI internet crime faq". The very first link will take you there. My account won't let me post links yet.

You can file a complaint with the FBI Internet Crime division there too.

You don't need a lawyer to go after cybercriminals. Let the FBI do its job.

I feel sorry for any victims who left the domaining community. How would they know that they can now get the money they are owed? I'm sure they are not googling his name daily.

We have the definition for Internet Crime. Anyone or @equity78 please provide the actual definition of fraud. That will help answer the original question: "Is Adam Dicker a criminal?" so "we" can finally answer the question.

Unfortunately we don't have all the facts to accurately decide because some people cannot say everything because they are still under threats of litigation:

I have no intentions of chasing anyone for an NDA infraction at this time.

Whether it's the FBI or FTC or any other entity, regardless of jurisdiction they do help educate the public to prevent other's from falling for the same thing. Here's the information from the FTC.gov (Federal Trade Commission to protect American consumers) website:

The earnings claim statement
What if the seller makes a claim about how much money a person can earn? Under the Rule, they have to give you a separate document that says in big type across the top: EARNINGS CLAIM STATEMENT REQUIRED BY LAW.

This document has to include:​

• • the name of the person making the claim and the date;
  • the specifics of the claim;
  • the start and end date those earnings were achieved;
  • the number and percentage of people who got those results or better;
  • any information about those people that may differ from you – for example, the part of the country where they live; and
  • a statement that you can get written proof of the seller's earning claims if you ask for it.

Since the Rule gives you the right to see written proof for the seller's earnings claims, savvy buyers exercise that right and study those materials carefully. Compare that information to what the seller has told you about how much money people make. If the dollar amounts don't line up, your best bet is to walk away. Like the disclosure document, the earnings claim statement has to be in the same language that the seller used to communicate with you.

Misleading claims
The revised Business Opportunity Rule spells out that certain practices are against the law. For example:​

• • It's illegal for bizopp sellers to say anything that contradicts what's in their disclosure document and earnings statement.
  • Under the Rule, sellers can't claim they're offering you a job when they're really promoting a business opportunity.
  • The Rule makes it illegal for sellers to misrepresent the nature of the investment – for example, to claim they'll help you line up locations, outlets, accounts, or customers or that you'll have an exclusive territory if it's not true.

The revised Rule puts new protections in place for prospective buyers. But for added protection, take the time to find out what the Rule requires of sellers. Did they give you the disclosure document with the five key pieces of information? If they made earnings claims, did they give you a separate statement with the specifics? If you spot a seller who isn't complying with the law, it's a red flag: You could be in the cross hairs of a bizopp scammer.

What else can you do to add an extra layer of protection? Before you buy a business opportunity:​

• • Study the disclosure document, the earnings claim statement, and the proposed contract.
  • Insist on seeing proof in writing for earnings claims, including statements like "Earn up to $10,000 a month!" Phrases like "up to" aren't a way out for the seller. It's an earning claim and it's your right to demand proof.
  • Interview current owners of the seller's business opportunity. Ask the tough questions – like if the information in the disclosure document matches their experience with the company.
  • Listen to sales presentations with a critical ear. They are – of course – trying to sell you something.
  • If a seller doesn't give you the information you know they have to provide, walk away.
  • Consider getting professional advice. Ask a lawyer, accountant, or business advisor to read the paperwork before you sign.
  • Check out the seller with your local consumer protection agency, state Attorney General's Office, and the Better Business Bureau. Do a few internet searches by entering the company's name and "complaint" or "scam." You could get an eyeful. But be wary: No complaints doesn't necessarily mean the company is legitimate. And scammers have been known to post phony testimonials online.

Report Possible Fraud
If you suspect a bizopp seller is fraudulent, report it to:​

• • The state attorney general's office both where you live and where the business opportunity promoter is based.
  • Your county or state consumer protection agency. Check the blue pages of the phone book under county and state government.
  • The Better Business Bureau in your area and the area where the seller is based.
  • The FTC. File a complaint online at ftc.gov or call toll-free 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357).

The FTC works to prevent fraudulent, deceptive and unfair business practices in the marketplace and to provide information to help consumers spot, stop and avoid them. To file a complaint or get free information on consumer issues, visit ftc.gov or call toll-free, 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357); TTY: 1-866-653-4261. Watch a video, How to File a Complaint, to learn more. The FTC enters consumer complaints into the Consumer Sentinel Network, a secure online database and investigative tool used by hundreds of civil and criminal law enforcement agencies in the U.S. and abroad.​

 

[Adam Dicker]

Ok, Anyone with any complaints can email me at [email protected] and they will be dealt with promptly.
Other than that I am done with this thread as there is nothing else I can do except deal with real issues.

 

[discobull]

Do you really think that people should be complaining to the FBI?

I guess you're dodging my question because you agree that that was a mischaracterization.

Quite frankly, I'm struggling to understand your perspective. At first you were disagreeing that the FBI should be contacted because you claimed that they lacked the authority to do anything. The implication was, that the right people to contact are the Canadian authorities. Then it became about how the FBI can't board a plane, etc.. Now, finally, it's about these cases not being serious enough to warrant a complaint and you use a total mischaracterization of these complaints to make your argument.

Imagine being Lanny or one of the others and reading how you've summarized their claims and made them look silly after everything they've been put through. Do you really feel right about doing that just to avoid acknowledging a mistake? My impression of you is that you're better than that.

 

[Domain Truth]

I feel sorry for any victims who left the domaining community. How would they know that they can now get the money they are owed? I'm sure they are not googling his name daily.

We have the definition for Internet Crime. Anyone or @equity78 please provide the actual definition of fraud. That will help answer the original question: "Is Adam Dicker a criminal?" so "we" can finally answer the question.

Unfortunately we don't have all the facts to accurately decide because some people cannot say everything because they are still under threats of litigation:


Whether it's the FBI or FTC or any other entity, regardless of jurisdiction they do help educate the public to prevent other's from falling for the same thing. Here's the information from the FTC.gov (Federal Trade Commission to protect American consumers) website:

I believe filing a complaint with the FBI Internet Crime division will take care of the fraud question as they will recruit any other government agency that they deem necessary. The FBI will determine if this merits further investigation. You cost them nothing with your complaint. Don't let that poster convince you you are wasting their time. They know what they can go after and what they can't. Let them decide.

 

[equity78]

One thing just in my worthless opinion, that I think you should do Adam is to make it clear you are not pursuing and will not pursue in the future any legal actions for those coming forth that tell their story of being owed money or feel like they worked without proper compensation. That way that issue cannot be bandied about open to speculation.

 

[DomainGist]

I guess you're dodging my question because you agree that that was a mischaracterization.

Quite frankly, I'm struggling to understand your perspective. At first you were disagreeing that the FBI should be contacted because you claimed that they lacked the authority to do anything. The implication was, that the right people to contact are the Canadian authorities. Then it became about how the FBI can't board a plane, etc.. Now, finally, it's about these cases not being serious enough to warrant a complaint and you use a total mischaracterization of these complaints to make your argument.

Imagine being Lanny or one of the others and reading how you've summarized their claims and made them look silly after everything they've been put through. Do you really feel right about doing that just to avoid acknowledging a mistake? My impression of you is that you're better than that.

I think that 46+ page thread dedicated entirely to how much of a jerk Adam Dicker has been is a rather fitting punishment for his actions, considering the internet is his domain and how much he cares about his online reputation and the reputation business in general. The reputation of a self-proclaimed reputation management expert lies in tatters, its a fitting end.

I do think that this lynch mob baying for the ultimate revenge has started to get a little bit out of control though. Adam Dicker is guilty of gross exaggeration, living in a bit of a fantasy land and overcharging people. His reputation has been severely damaged, justifiably.

Comparisons with Bernie Madoff, mentions of the FBI, and the emergence of a particularly vicious anonymous user who seems to be baying for blood, is taking things too far. If you support things going quite that far then honestly, my impression of you was better than that too.

Most of the criticisms of Adam Dicker seem to be that he is a fantasist, manipulative, at times threatening, and a general unsavoury character. Now we are seeing the exact same traits being displayed from some other individuals sitting on the other side of the fence. Particularly this anonymous user who has appeared, who I'd like to think the mods would do an IP check on for multiple accounts.

I've also seen the phrase "ruined my life" being used quite a bit. That's hyperbole too. A crack cocaine habit ruins a life, an affair ruins a life, stepping on a land mine ruins a life. Not really seen many convincing arguments that a life has been ruined, Beezy presented the only half serious one I've seen and Adam Dicker wasn't the perpetrator.

It appears that the agenda has progressed somewhat. It started with people wanting the industry to know the truth about Adam Dicker and for his 'victims' to be made good. Now that those objectives have been achieved the bar has been raised, now the objective seems to be to try and leave Adam Dicker in jail, destitute or dead. Not sure that punishment would fit the crime. Its going too far and people are getting far too intense.

I genuinely feel sorry for some of his victims, primarily the two employees who have shared their story. They have had their platform to air their grievances, people have given them support, they've got what was owed to them, even if they had to put a fight up for it, they've done everybody a service by going public and helping others avoid the same misfortune. But they have their health and the rest of their lives to look forward to, and they can move on with some valuable life lessons having been learnt. They even got an apology, even if it were a half-hearted and begrudging one. Adam Dicker has confirmed that he isn't going to hold them to their NDA's.

Whether they carry on the rest of their life with a big chip on their shoulder or get over it and move on is their own prerogative.

What more do they want or need exactly? Is there anything else they need?

Perhaps Adam Dicker could reiterate once more that he isn't going to pursue a legal avenue for NDA, once he's done that, what else do they want?

 

[Jen-Sin]

Ok, Anyone with any complaints can email me at [email protected] and they will be dealt with promptly.
Other than that I am done with this thread as there is nothing else I can do except deal with real issues.

Let's give @Adam Dicker some time to address/concede/refute all the allegations from the blog... but not too long.

@Adam Dicker, do you think all allegations from the blog at least should be addressed?

Not addressing only leads to more speculation, and feeds people the impression that all that were said there are the truth. Unless you don't mind that.

 

[RandysDomains]

All this talk of the FBI - I suspect they, as well as the CIA, NSA, RCMP, and maybe even the KGB already have this on their radar. See that white van with the tinted windows parked across the street?

 

[Adam Dicker]

@Adam Dicker, do you think all allegations from the blog at least should be addressed?

Yes definitely, that's why I gave my email out to resolve them.
But not in front of a few people that are turning this into a lynch mob rather than wanting to actually help people.

 

[tld_org]

Yes definitely, that's why I gave my email out to resolve them.
But not in front of a few people that are turning this into a lynch mob rather than wanting to actually help people.

You want to help people? Where was that before the story broke? You are repaying people either because you want to try to save what's left of your reputation or you are trying to avoid potential legal actions against you. Don't slither in here and act like you care or you're doing a good deed. Your actions now are self-serving just like your actions throughout the course of these issues were self-serving. You care about you and that's it. So yes, get lost because we don't need people like you around.

I advise everyone to spread the link to this thread around the domain blog comment sections, other forums, wherever, etc... to get this thread bumped up in the Google results so that if anyone in the future wants to do business with him they see his actions from the past.

 

[HeyNow]

All this talk of the FBI - I suspect they, as well as the CIA, NSA, RCMP, and maybe even the KGB already have this on their radar. See that white van with the tinted windows parked across the street?

I find your remarks insulting and insensitive to any participants here who have been defrauded, who might be inclined to take your post as though it came from someone savvy.

 

[SirDrago]

One thing just in my worthless opinion, that I think you should do Adam is to make it clear you are not pursuing and will not pursue in the future any legal actions for those coming forth that tell their story of being owed money or feel like they worked without proper compensation. That way that issue cannot be bandied about open to speculation.

Exactly my intent 50 pages ago...
But all this talk about fbi, kgb, cia and ufo"s is only distracting from the "Progress" already made and is ongoing...

If half this effort is made to helping those who were effected by this ordeal the whole community would heal faster.

 

[frank-germany]

Wrong, It's not where the perpetrator operates but where the victims live. Please stop spreading false statements.

Q: Should I file a complaint if I received an offer from someone in another country to purchase an item I have listed on the Internet with payment being made in the form of a cashier's check in excess of the asking price?

If you believe you are the victim of an Internet crime, or if you are aware of an attempted crime, you can file a complaint on our website. Be sure to include as much information as possible about yourself (i.e. name, email address, mailing address, etc.), the perpetrator, and the Internet crime you are reporting in order to expedite your complaint. Be sure to copy and paste the entire email, including the header information, in the complaint. For more information on this topic, please see Internet Crime Schemes.

don't you think its time to to keep a sense of proportion
you are a new member
and you are not involved
why do you heat the discussion?

I was heating my flat from it anyway..

 

[S-B]

don't you think its time to to keep a sense of proportion
you are a new member
and you are not involved
why do you heat the discussion?

I was heating my flat from it anyway..

Says a guy with 88 posts.

 

[RandysDomains]

I find your remarks insulting and insensitive to any participants here who have been defrauded, who might be inclined to take your post as though it came from someone savvy.

Apparently you took the post seriously. I meant to inject a little levity into the situation with the numerous posts about lawyers, fraud, legal jurisdictions, defamation, character assassination, etc. I seriously doubt that the KGB cares about this - but I'll bet the NSA monitors this kind of internet banter - you know - picks up on posts where FBI and assassination are mentioned in the same post.

Oh crap - now I did it! A white van just pulled up across the street. Oh, it's FEDEX. No worries.