Is Adam Dicker a criminal? You decide.

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This story starts with DNF; a barren wasteland that once was a leading forum within the domain industry. While the forum itself played a huge role in propagating the myth that is Adam Dicker, the story really begins with DNF College in the summer of 2011.

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• Report by headsupp (Resolved)
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  • Reply to Adam
  • Update: Resolved
  
  
• Report by LannyB (Unresolved)
  • Response
    • Follow-up Questions
  
  
• Report by domainesque (Unresolved)
  • Update: Unresolved
  • Report Details
  • Update: Waiting on Refund
  
  
• Report of Shane Cultra's friends (Unresolved)
  • Update: Unpaid
  
  
• Report by Jeff Markus (Dissatisfied)
  
  
• Report by simmplex (Resolved)
  • Refunded
  
  
• Report by Blenja_Man (Pending)
  • Voucher
  • Update: Work in Progress
  
  
• Report by RandysDomains (Resolved)
  • Resolved
  
  
• Report by swamismith (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by Charlie (Unresolved)
  • Cover-up
  • Update: Unresolved
  
  
• Report by Jaqpot (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by anon22339 (Unresolved)
  • Details
  
  
• Report by Joseph Peterson (Resolved)
  • Update: Unpaid after 8 days
  • Update: Paid
  
  
• Report by Frank Schilling (Resolved)
  • Update: Paid
  
  
• Report by Lonewolf5503 (Paypal Dispute)
  • Update: Website not delivered and no longer accessible
  • Update: Lonewolf5503 wins PayPal dispute
  
  
• Report by GermanRaven (Unresolved)
  • Update: Full story
  
  
• Report by ClaudeDauman (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by bobsranch (Unresolved)
  • Details
  • Update: Legal Letter Received
  
  
• Report by Newby888 (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by dougasd (Unresolved)

From what I understand, Adam still owes north of $33,000 to previous customers and business partners. As I receive more information, I will update this figure.

 

[carob]

People don't waste your time on this diversionary tactic of appointing someone. A normal business at this point would just issue refunds. Assuming they were solvent.

 

[hookbox]

People don't waste your time on this diversionary tactic of appointing someone. A normal business at this point would just issue refunds. Assuming they were solvent.

You are absolutely right. This is 100% a diversionary tactic. Pay your debts like a man!

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

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I like that theme

 

[rockefeller]

I haven't been active here on NamePros much but I was on Adam's forum for years under the same username. Sorry to hear that this has happened if substantiated. I've been a full time domainer for years and have always offered help here and on the other forum. I started part time in 2005 and it has grown into a full grown business... if I can do it, you can do it. To the people that have questions, feel free to PM me here or the other forum. You might not receive an immediate reply but you will eventually.

Justin

 

[Adam Dicker]

People don't waste your time on this diversionary tactic of appointing someone. A normal business at this point would just issue refunds. Assuming they were solvent.

This is not a solvency issue, every business has cash ups and downs, that called running a business. More to come on this when I address the staff issues posted.

 

[carob]

This is not a solvency issue, every business has cash ups and downs, that called running a business.

A business also keeps records of transactions. You know who paid you and what they paid you for, and you have records of refund requests. Just issue those refunds, end of story.

 

[ResoluteDomains]

This is not a solvency issue, every business has cash ups and downs, that called running a business. More to come on this when I address the staff issues posted.

You must have an accounting system of some sort. Accounts Payable, Accounts Receivable.... dont you know who paid you what?

 

[discobull]

This is not a solvency issue, every business has cash ups and downs, that called running a business. More to come on this when I address the staff issues posted.

So, to be clear, you're asking for arbitration because you don't believe you owe anyone any money and you'd like to present your side of it to a neutral party?

 

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@Adam Dicker

As I mentioned on the phone, if you would like to write a rebuttal I will post it alongside the original post.

Just email me or call.

 

[ResoluteDomains]

So, to be clear, you're asking for arbitration because you don't believe you owe anyone any money and you'd like to present your side of it to a neutral party?

And the arbitrator gets to decide what is a "fair" % of refund on $XXXX ..

 

[Sam Roy]

I don't think it is a diversionary tactics. Had that been Adam could have appointed a hand picked neutral (so-called) person. Appointing a neutral third party is important because many might claim refunds without even trying Adam's methods/courses/software. Only such persons should be repaid/refunded whom Adam owes or persons to whom he could not fulfil his commitment.

 

[Adam Dicker]

All I can say is either you g

So, to be clear, you're asking for arbitration because you don't believe you owe anyone any money and you'd like to present your side of it to a neutral party?

To be clear, I want the legitimate issues taken care of right away.
There are only a few of those in here at the moment.

 

[JayJay]

You guys are pretty funny, Shane and Adam have come to an agreement and are working together to help those actually effected receive a refund if deserved yet you are caught up on the arbitrator aspect. Even Shane seems to be perfectly fine with it and none of this would be happening if he hadn't started the thread....

 

[SirDrago]

Obviously @Adam Dicker is avoiding my questions which was to be expected when you ask right ones.

 

[discobull]

All I can say is either you g


To be clear, I want the legitimate issues taken care of right away.
There are only a few of those in here at the moment.

Okay, so if you acknowledge that there are legitimate issues then why not take care of those right away?

 

[ResoluteDomains]

I don't think it is a diversionary tactics. Had that been Adam could have appointed a hand picked neutral (so-called) person. Appointing a neutral third party is important because many might claim refunds without even trying Adam's methods/courses/software. Only such persons should be repaid/refunded whom Adam owes or persons to whom he could not fulfil his commitment.

At this point he should know who has made complaints, check them against who has paid him, verify it, make a refund. Any others that show up that do not have an entry in his accounting system, can not prove they have a receipt for payment with no services received, can plead their case to an arbitrator.

 

[headsupp]

If anyone with a legal background and the one that broke the news on Domaining.com and Domainnamewire.com it should be Andrew Allemann

 

[S-B]

If anyone with a legal background and the one that broke the news on Domaining.com and Domainnamewire.com it should be Andrew Allemann

I agree.

 

[DomainGist]

To be clear, I want the legitimate issues taken care of right away.
There are only a few of those in here at the moment.

So you have already decided that there are a few parties deserving of a refund, and that there are others who are not?

Why is a third party necessary then? Why would you not simply refund those who have legitimate complaints, and tell the rest to go f*ck themselves?

 

[carob]

At this point he should know who has made complaints, check them against who has paid him, verify it, make a refund. Any others that show up that do not have an entry in his accounting system, can not prove they have a receipt for payment with no services received, can plead their case to an arbitrator.

Exactly.

The arbitrator thing is hell. They will find that there are endless delays getting info, weird grey areas, then if they approve payment it does not happen and they get blamed... some people on here are seriously naive.

A normal business just issues refunds, sometimes just to protect its reputation. Or it explicitly says no.

 

[hookbox]

I don't think it is a diversionary tactics. Had that been Adam could have appointed a hand picked neutral (so-called) person. Appointing a neutral third party is important because many might claim refunds without even trying Adam's methods/courses/software. Only such persons should be repaid/refunded whom Adam owes or persons to whom he could not fulfil his commitment.

No business is going to pay an illegitimate refund so having a neutral third party doesn't matter. If someone used the services and were not satisfied and rightfully by law deserve a refund then those should get it. It doesn't take a third party to determine that. Very simple.

 

[equity78]

No one in the domain business is an arbitrator, John Berryhill is a lawyer he could possibly do it or suggest the right outcome. But some domainer doesn't make arbitration binding.

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States vary widely on the type of training required for certification. Some states require no training at all. Other states have mandatory programs that are run through the courts to train arbitrators. Many states also require at one year of apprenticeship under a certified arbitrator.

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For specialized arbitration courts such as the IRS and the Better Business Bureau, you must be familiar with the particular area of law in question. Some organizations also require that you be recommended by another experienced judge or arbitrator in that particular area. Finally, some court arbitrators may be required to stand for questioning by the judge overseeing the case before they are permitted to arbitrate the issues.

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[SirDrago]

Why is a third party necessary then?

Perhaps to shield himself with the "I wasn't notified" wall. IMO

 

[Adam Dicker]

So you have already decided that there are a few parties deserving of a refund, and that there are others who are not?

Why is a third party necessary then? Why would you not simply refund those who have legitimate complaints, and tell the rest to go f*ck themselves?

As an example: Would you call it a legitimate complaint if we built a website for someone for $299 and the website was completed but they wanted a refund because they didn't get traffic or the business hasn't made a sale and after the handover they have done nothing?

 

[Adam Dicker]

Perhaps to shield himself with the "I wasn't notified" wall. IMO

Not looking for any shield, I am in fronm of it trying to now do the right thing.