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Having read with horror the small print of domain registrations with Enom that Equity has so graciously given of his time to provide and to explain - two things emerge.

1. Enom need not give any reason at all with new regges during the first thirty day window to retract/withdraw from any body regging through Enom, be it .tv, .com or otherwise....as opposed to GoDaddy, which can withdraw but only with cause as outlined in their T&C.

2. enom singles out .TV exclusively and give themselves an additional window of oppurtunity of 30 days to withdraw the reg - with and without cause during the renewal period.

Point Two is a huge legal nightmare with massive implications to anyone with a .TV website - premium or otherwise. Fleaakings' nightmare has hilited to all of us this nightmare and whether or not Enom will or wont, good publicity, bad publicity etc etc , take away a name during the renewal period - no self respecting business would invest in a business where the very foundations of its model are under threat from the whim of the registrar.

I myself am taking the ramifications of all this very seriously indeed, as I hope all others will - who are considering investing in the development of one of their names.

A seperate and additional issue remains for those such as myself who have invested in the domain name itself - the premium speculator......the ramifications here are the same - I see nothing in the T&C that offer premiu holders any additional protection whatsoever to those with a standard reg fee.....when renewals come around - they have a 30 day window to arbitrarily remove the name.....how this impact plays out is being played out as we speak.

One more point, anyone buying a .Tv off someone else, should now, IMO, hold back from paying any monies to that person for the first thirty days of transfer ownership - in case Enom decides to execute its grotesque with or without cause clause...thus meaning that if you have paid the original owner for the name, not only will you suffer pain from not keeping the name, you are also now left on your own to getting your money back from the original owner


Maybe I have not read all of the repercusssions right, I am happy for Equity or anyone else to point out to me if I have gone wrong in my analysis.....

Millers
 
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I think your reading is correct on its face. The Enom terms would have to be clarified re: premium names, otherwise they are unacceptable as they stand.

For non-premiums, use Godaddy.
 
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I have learned that I will no longer register names at Enom unless forced to do so for premiums.
 
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It seems we will also need to keep quiet any sales we have made for 30 days. Imagine if someone sells Kitchen.tv for $25,000 and then Sears goes to Enom and offers $100k for it after reading about the sale. This puts a damper on things even more.
 
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SearchingTV said:
It seems we will also need to keep quiet any sales we have made for 30 days. Imagine if someone sells Kitchen.tv for $25,000 and then Sears goes to Enom and offers $100k for it after reading about the sale. This puts a damper on things even more.


I do not think this is an issue. It is not 30 days after a transfer.

It is 30 days after a registration. So, do not buy or sell in the first 30 days you reg...in any case, some registrars (like godaddy) I think have a 60 day no-transfer rule anyway...
 
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Millers I corrected Dream Catcher it is the same with GO DADDY or any registrar int the first 30 days after 30 days GO DADDY explained why they could take it. BUT any registrar any reason first 30 DAYS. What is in the ENOM T&C that differs is the renewal part. BUT PLEASE FOR ALL DOMAINERS WHEN YOU REG A DOMAIN ANYWHERE YOU AGREE TO T&C that in the first 30 days for any or GODADDYuses the line in its "sole Discretion" can reject and refund.

I disagree with the Kitchen.tv example 100 % I believe either one of two things happened PETSTV.com told Verisign not ENOM please this happened before ENOM took over stop using ENOM's name if this was regged at GODADDY verisign would have told GO DADDY tell your client this name was not available and refund. SO I believe PETS TV told them they wanted it before it dropped and they slipped by letting it show available or as other companies have done PETSTV threatened Verisign that they were allowing their TM available for REG and they wanted it and would take action if they sold it to someone else. Again these are my speculations I do not know and NEITHER DOES ANYONE ELSE ON THIS BOARD including Original Registrant and FLEAKING.

GO DADDY link http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/legal_agreements/show_doc.asp?se=+&pageid=REG_SA
 
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