interviews I'm currently getting roasted in Reddit for cybersquatting - Lol

[uglydork]

I am doing an IAMA for pacemakers.com and I am getting lit up because everythig thiks Im squatting.
I think its funny
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/bkmssh/iama_selling_pacemakerscom_and_giving_10_to/

 

[wwwweb]

I think you are creating more negative news, than positive, and it will eventually hurt the name, and any potential sale.

I don’t know who bidder 2 was in your $5500 auction, but they probably had the same dream to sell it back to Medtronic, which was a very expensive gamble that shows why we shouldn’t chase sure thing end user sales. If your $20k offer is still on the table, that is a decent offer for this boring domain. It’s not exactly an e-commerce product you purchase online directly, and diy at home.

 

[uglydork]

I've never seen anyone that is such a glutton for punishment as you.

Because I dont keep things - people who rip me don't bother me at all. I like the back and forth - it amuses me. I dont know anyone personally so I dont care what people say

 

[bmugford]

This is obviously not cybersquatting, but you brought some of the roasting on yourself.

You are basically trying to sell a domain for way more than market value ($1M) with the angle of then donating 10% to charity.

If I can sell something for way over market value, I would be willing to do the same.
It really seems like an empty gesture IMO.

This post is far more about sales and marketing than about charity.

Brad

 

[MapleDots]

there are no restrictions on this domain name - trademark or anything else.

With all due respect Richard, there is one huge restriction on the domain and that is the fact that it's just not a million dollar domain.

How can I say that?

Even the manufacturer with the most claim/use for it ended up not wanting it.

 

[bmugford]

Isn't that what every company using charity angle does?

Buy it from us and we will donate 1%-5% to X charity! Albeit we have added 20% already to our normal margin and we'd be happy to give you 50% discount, if we could sell enough, and you could then actually use half of your discount for the charity of your liking and keep another half!

In a way.

However, this is like a company saying they will donate 10% to charity if you pay $40,000 for a TV that is worth $1,500. Then bitching about the fact they are getting roasted in response to it.

This is obviously not about charity and that is going to annoy many people.

The OP is getting roasted for a reason. No one wants to see some bullshit marketing pitch under the guise of an AMA.

Brad

 

[uglydork]

With all due respect Richard, there is one huge restriction on the domain and that is the fact that it's just not a million dollar domain.

How can I say that?

Even the manufacturer with the most claim/use for it ended up not wanting it.

I know its not a million dollar name Im not delusional. I am always trying to market differently than anyone else. If it works - cool! If it doesnt I move on.
I would obviously sell it for much less.
I am lucky that I dont rely on this for a living. I am comfortable working in IT for a multinational company. I can afford to say what I want to market how I want. I find it educational

 

[DomainVP]

The highest valued domains are typically acquired for commercial use.

Just Google "Pacemaker" and you will quickly see that it's mostly education about pacemaker devices - not much commerce going on at all.

It looks like most companies that produce pacemakers are B2B, so it would stand out for their clients being Pacemaker.com. It's memorable, and describes their business... if that is their sole business.

For me it's a vanity for any company involved in pacemakers, but not one that will give a significant commercial edge.

There is a sucker born every day, and I doubt while dealing with corporations you will find another Milo that has a unilateral decision making process without checks and balances.

I've had domains that were the most perfect goddamn domain for a business (we all have). The CEO approves, the COO approves, then some dipsh::t "web guy" swoops in and nukes the transaction.

Selling this domain is going to be like that. You might be able to double your money, but I think a windfall for this one is doubtful.

Either way, good luck Richard.

 

[Internet.Domains]

Thank you - I value your opinion
I’m not trying to justify anything-

In Reddit you mention, "the largest manufacturer of pacemakers dropped the name and their legal department gave me permission to sell the name."

Why would you need permission if the domain dropped?

 

[bmugford]

Its absolutely 100% about sales - I am not even trying to hide that! The more comments - the more eyes that see it. If I get 1,000 people flaming me and 1 person who see the name and makes an offer - this all worked.
Why else would I post this on Reddit? This is 100% all about sales and if heart.org makes money in the process we all win. I am in contact with heart.org and they understand. They win too.

I don't see how a bunch of negative comments are going to make it more likely to result in a sale.

It looks like the post was removed. Probably because it was a blatant marketing ploy that was rightly called out by several posters.

Brad

 

[Arfy]

Dejavu ... again

 

[-AR-]

Its absolutely 100% about sales - I am not even trying to hide that! The more comments - the more eyes that see it. If I get 1,000 people flaming me and 1 person who see the name and makes an offer - this all worked.
Why else would I post this on Reddit? This is 100% all about sales and if heart.org makes money in the process we all win. I am in contact with heart.org and they understand. They win too.

I am also fully aware that I will never get 1 million for the name. Its all about getting people to have eyes on it. If it doesn't work - oh well. I tried.
Stop being afraid - try something bold.

If it is 100% about the sale why only offer 10%? I think you would have received less abuse if you would have offered no donation at all. I would have personally gone for a 50% charity donation or even more as the domain is overpriced anyway and you would have received more support.

 

[Silentptnr]

It's fascinating to me that people think registering domain names for the purpose of selling them at a profit is somehow bad. They hear a catch word like "cybersquatting" and think knowing the word makes them an expert. Makes me furious when I think of the stupidity.

Regardless of what the domain ends up selling for, or how you choose the gain exposure, I applaud your composure in the midst of some real winners over there.

 

[Internet.Domains]

Oh, boy....You have abused this "charity" excuse while saying you got permission from a "legal department" to sell the name......and then you send them here to NP's to justify your position?

As some have correctly said on Reddit, "its extra greasy" and "sleazy".......

 

[dande]

Are we in another round of Pacemaker so soon? I thought it have been done and dusted??

 

[xeroox]

Definitely the wrong audience, Reddit users don't like domainers at all

 

[MapleDots]

I've never seen anyone that is such a glutton for punishment as you.

 

[uglydork]

No, I'm not upset. I live being humble.

Reason I ask is with all your promotions of the domain you keep mentioning "permission" and "rights." You even mentioned a broker had concerns.

It's almost as if you know there may be a TM issue or something. You haven't really addressed the possible TM issue with an answer, rather you have danced around it. I don't have time to sift through the large quantities of TM's in regards to "pacemaker" so I was thinking you might know and kindly answer.

I am not dancing around anything - there are no restrictions on this domain name - trademark or anything else.

 

[TCK]

I don’t know what the audience of reddit comprises of (maybe that depends on the topic of the thread) but there is still a lot of work to be done to educate people that trading in domain names is a legitimate business.

That’s why I wrote an article on Misconceptions About Domaining.

I’ve seen a good number of small biz owners recoil at the idea of someone offering them a domain (that would be an upgrade to their current one) for a price much above the reg fee. Large companies usually have IT or senior staff with better grasp of domains.

 

[uglydork]

This is obviously not cybersquatting, but you brought some of the roasting on yourself.

You are basically trying to sell a domain for way more than market value ($1M) with the angle of then donating 10% to charity.

If I can sell something for way over market value, I would be willing to do the same.
It really seems like an empty gesture IMO.

This post is far more about sales and marketing than about charity.

Brad

Its absolutely 100% about sales - I am not even trying to hide that! The more comments - the more eyes that see it. If I get 1,000 people flaming me and 1 person who see the name and makes an offer - this all worked.
Why else would I post this on Reddit? This is 100% all about sales and if heart.org makes money in the process we all win. I am in contact with heart.org and they understand. They win too.

I am also fully aware that I will never get 1 million for the name. Its all about getting people to have eyes on it. If it doesn't work - oh well. I tried.
Stop being afraid - try something bold.

 

[Recons.Com]

This is obviously not cybersquatting, but you brought some of the roasting on yourself.

You are basically trying to sell a domain for way more than market value ($1M) with the angle of then donating 10% to charity.

If I can sell something for way over market value, I would be willing to do the same.
It really seems like an empty gesture IMO.

This post is far more about sales and marketing than about charity.

Brad

Isn't that what every company using charity angle does?

Buy it from us and we will donate 1%-5% to X charity! Albeit we have added 20% already to our normal margin and we'd be happy to give you 50% discount, if we could sell enough, and you could then actually use half of your discount for the charity of your liking and keep another half!

 

[latenightwithpete]

Just an off-topic, but I thought it was interesting to share, pacemaker(dot)com is currently parked, pacemaker(dot)net is being used by a popular iOS application with the same name.
Aside from yours, all the other big "pacemakers" TLDs are all parked.

 

[BaileyUK]

That’s why I am actively marketing and theirs are sitting

Hmm Not very good at Good marketing then

 

[mAd MaX]

Like your guerrilla marketing style

 

[frank-germany]

I am doing an IAMA for pacemakers.com and I am getting lit up because everythig thiks Im squatting.
I think its funny
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/bkmssh/iama_selling_pacemakerscom_and_giving_10_to/

so you think that is domain name "marketing"?