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I'm currently getting roasted in Reddit for cybersquatting - lol

Labeled as interviews in gTLD Discussion started by uglydork, May 4, 2019.

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  1. uglydork

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  2. xeroox

    xeroox Established Member

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    Definitely the wrong audience, Reddit users don't like domainers at all
     
  3. uglydork

    uglydork Top Member VIP

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    I noticed! I find it fascinating
     
  4. MapleDots

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    I've never seen anyone that is such a glutton for punishment as you. :xf.wink:
     
  5. uglydork

    uglydork Top Member VIP

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    Because I dont keep things - people who rip me don't bother me at all. I like the back and forth - it amuses me. I dont know anyone personally so I dont care what people say :)
     
  6. Internet.Domains

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    Oh, boy....You have abused this "charity" excuse while saying you got permission from a "legal department" to sell the name......and then you send them here to NP's to justify your position?

    As some have correctly said on Reddit, "its extra greasy" and "sleazy".......
     
  7. uglydork

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    Thank you - I value your opinion
    I’m not trying to justify anything-
     
  8. Internet.Domains

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    In Reddit you mention, "the largest manufacturer of pacemakers dropped the name and their legal department gave me permission to sell the name."

    Why would you need permission if the domain dropped?
     
  9. Dustie

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    I think the name cybersquatting should be renamed Capitalism in most cases. Right? I mean, after all, all you did was capitalize on the fact that someone dropped a name, or never registered a name, or whatever. It's been obvious to anyone who's net savvy early on that domain names have value. Why wouldn't you stop and pick up a treasure if it were legitimately available? Now, if it's a trademarked name that's unique to the trademarker (IE: Coke, Pepsi, Skittles, Nike, etc, etc) then I can see that as cybersquatting (unless that also happens to be your name), but pacemakers.com? No way is that cybersquatting...that's just being in the right place at the right time with the money needed! Good For You...and I'm Jealous!

    Oh, and no need to try to "appease" the naysayers by saying some legal department gave you permission to sell it? That kinda makes it look like your attackers at Reddit might be getting to you and making you feel a bit guilty for a completely legitimate purchase! Don't give them that satisfaction!
     
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  10. uglydork

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    To cover my ass just in case. I read too many UDRP stories. Are you upset?
     
  11. Internet.Domains

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    No, I'm not upset.:xf.smile: I live being humble.

    Reason I ask is with all your promotions of the domain you keep mentioning "permission" and "rights." You even mentioned a broker had concerns.

    It's almost as if you know there may be a TM issue or something. You haven't really addressed the possible TM issue with an answer, rather you have danced around it. I don't have time to sift through the large quantities of TM's in regards to "pacemaker" so I was thinking you might know and kindly answer.
     
  12. uglydork

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    I am not dancing around anything - there are no restrictions on this domain name - trademark or anything else.
     
  13. MapleDots

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    With all due respect Richard, there is one huge restriction on the domain and that is the fact that it's just not a million dollar domain.

    How can I say that?

    Even the manufacturer with the most claim/use for it ended up not wanting it.
     
  14. rh2000

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    Good point.
     
  15. uglydork

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    I know its not a million dollar name :) Im not delusional. I am always trying to market differently than anyone else. If it works - cool! If it doesnt I move on.
    I would obviously sell it for much less.
    I am lucky that I dont rely on this for a living. I am comfortable working in IT for a multinational company. I can afford to say what I want to market how I want. I find it educational
     
  16. Grade8

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    Some people (most people) - need to re-read @MapleDots comment a few times, therein lies the old-school truth :)
     
  17. latenightwithpete

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    Hi,

    Wish you the best of luck with your sale. Haters gonna hate, don't let them discourage you.
    But one thing I have to say, and please don't take it the wrong way: The impression I have is that the negative feedback is not so much for cyber-squating claims (which is definitely not what you're doing), but more for the fact that you're using the 10% charity as a sales pitch and not just a good faith anonymous donation. The domain itself is valuable enough you'll be cashing it as soon as I finish this post, you don't need gimmicks imo. I would personally omit the 10% charity (but for honesty sake, I would also probably keep all the money and invest in other stuff).
    Good luck
     
  18. uglydork

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    Thank you but I feel strongly about this cause - it hits close to home. I may give more, I am in talks with heart.org every day. Larry is a great guy and they are a wonderful organization.

    No negative people here bother me - everyone is entitled to their opinion. You should have seen the fire after I sold hatred.com! This is nothing :)
     
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    I don’t know what the audience of reddit comprises of (maybe that depends on the topic of the thread) but there is still a lot of work to be done to educate people that trading in domain names is a legitimate business.

    That’s why I wrote an article on Misconceptions About Domaining.

    I’ve seen a good number of small biz owners recoil at the idea of someone offering them a domain (that would be an upgrade to their current one) for a price much above the reg fee. Large companies usually have IT or senior staff with better grasp of domains.
     
  20. -AR-

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    Just keep on track, don't let it discourage you. The general public doesn't understand domaining.
     
  21. BaileyUK

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    Whatever the misconceptions, opinions, comments etc... I'm just hoping 'uglydork' doesn't start another thread or try to drag this one out. It really just becomes a duplicate of the last thread
     
  22. eurorealtor

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    I think most of the people outside of domaining world thinks we are cybersquatters. I like your courage @uglydork, kudos for keep trying. Good luck.
     
  23. uglydork

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    Yet you are here..............
     
  24. bmugford

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    This is obviously not cybersquatting, but you brought some of the roasting on yourself.

    You are basically trying to sell a domain for way more than market value ($1M) with the angle of then donating 10% to charity.

    If I can sell something for way over market value, I would be willing to do the same.
    It really seems like an empty gesture IMO.

    This post is far more about sales and marketing than about charity.

    Brad
     
  25. uglydork

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    Its absolutely 100% about sales - I am not even trying to hide that! The more comments - the more eyes that see it. If I get 1,000 people flaming me and 1 person who see the name and makes an offer - this all worked.
    Why else would I post this on Reddit? This is 100% all about sales and if heart.org makes money in the process we all win. I am in contact with heart.org and they understand. They win too.

    I am also fully aware that I will never get 1 million for the name. Its all about getting people to have eyes on it. If it doesn't work - oh well. I tried.
    Stop being afraid - try something bold.
     
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